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There’s nothing remotely environmentally destructive about it, at least not yet. And if nobody asked for it or needs it, companies would not investing trillions of dollars into it. Free markets do not allocate that kind of capital into things people don’t want.

Comical. Right, because companies always invest in smart, sustainable enterprises and never chase bubbles or fruitless trends! The AI circus is on a whole other level, truly.

As for having no environmental impact, the colossal data center coming to a power grid near you begs to differ.
 
Comical. Right, because companies always invest in smart, sustainable enterprises and never chase bubbles or fruitless trends! The AI circus is on a whole other level, truly.

As for having no environmental impact, the colossal data center coming to a power grid near you begs to differ.

Right?

I don't even know how to interact with a viewpoint of "nothing remotely environmentally destructive about (AI)".

It's objectively false.
I don't even know how one is making that claim, other than perhaps satirically?
 
Comical. Right, because companies always invest in smart, sustainable enterprises and never chase bubbles or fruitless trends! The AI circus is on a whole other level, truly.

As for having no environmental impact, the colossal data center coming to a power grid near you begs to differ.
Funny you mention that, because Meta just announced they are building a massive $13 billion data center in Canada where they will be fully funding all power generation and making huge investments into the existing grid infrastructure.

The project is estimated to generated $250 million per year in taxes and levies. I’m pumped.

Truly bizarre to see so many Luddites on tech forums. I swear, this tech is as close to magic as anything I’ve experienced in my life. Only thing comparable might be the invention/discovery of electricity itself.

Then again, it wouldn’t surprise me if people of that time were grumbling and groaning about how they preferred candlelight. And cave men who swore life was better before fire and the wheel.
 
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Funny you mention that, because Meta just announced they are building a massive $13 billion data center in Canada where they will be fully funding all power generation and making huge investments into the existing grid infrastructure.

The project is estimated to generated $250 million per year in taxes and levies. I’m pumped.

Truly bizarre to see so many Luddites on tech forums. I swear, this tech is as close to magic as anything I’ve experienced in my life. Only thing comparable might be the invention/discovery of electricity itself.

Then again, it wouldn’t surprise me if people of that time were grumbling and groaning about how they preferred candlelight. And cave men who swore life was better before fire and the wheel.

Yeah! Awesome! SO PUMPED for Meta!
Harvest that data, baby!

 
There’s nothing remotely environmentally destructive about it, at least not yet. And if nobody asked for it or needs it, companies would not investing trillions of dollars into it. Free markets do not allocate that kind of capital into things people don’t want.

Are you kidding? Capitalism endeavors to CREATE markets and CREATE demand, even when nobody asked for it or wants it. Capitalism is constantly trying to sell people things they don't want or need.
 
The two years lost by Apple (2024-2026) with their own LLM models have been a tragedy. ChatGPT Work, Claude Cowork, OpenClaw, Perplexity Personal Computer... that idea of deep automation of a computer is approaching its functional maturity and Apple is still preparing its version 1.0 (with the help of Google). They have probably resorted to Google's models because that company is also working in that same direction, with a lot of experience in a similar environment (Android). Apple has to accelerate a lot from now on and compete in prices thanks to models that run locally!
 
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There’s nothing remotely environmentally destructive about it, at least not yet. And if nobody asked for it or needs it, companies would not investing trillions of dollars into it. Free markets do not allocate that kind of capital into things people don’t want.
I am asking out of curiousity: Are you maybe stuck BIG TIME in the AI hype and boom bubble? It is just crazy what objectivly nonsense you are shouting while thinking it would be the truth…
 
When I was a young uni student in the 90s and I was first exposed to the wonders of the Internet (always a capital I!), there was a common catchphrase that seemed, even to a fairly ignorant me, to capture the spirit of this wonderful tool:

“The Internet is not a network of computers, it is a network of people.”

I guess all good things must come to an end.
 
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The IT industry has been so recovered up after the introduction of artificial intelligence that we see the return of the legendary 5800X3D, 3060 12 gigs, Intel resumes the production of the old process. So many ppl become free and happy.. An incredible step forward. Everyone says that everyone doesn't have enough memory, but in all local and online stores the shelves are full, the prices are also a step forward, into a clear future… WOW so many new technologies were released, new cpu , gpu , ddr next gen . So exited, happy days
 
I swear, this tech is as close to magic as anything I’ve experienced in my life. Only thing comparable might be the invention/discovery of electricity itself.
“Close to magic”? Are you 8 years old? Or 80? Or an AI bot paid to write this blind praise? No wonder these ludicrously overvalued companies can get away this, because they convince old, out of touch decision-makers that their technology is “close to magic”.
 
The two years lost by Apple (2024-2026) with its own LLM models have been a tragedy. ChatGPT Work, Claude Cowork, OpenClaw, Perplexity Personal Computer... that idea of deep automation of a computer is approaching its functional maturity and Apple is still preparing its version 1.0 (with the help of Google). They have probably resorted to Google's models because it is also working in that same direction, with a lot of experience in a similar environment (Android). Apple has to accelerate a lot from now on and compete in prices thanks to models that run locally!
Apple's strategy, I think, is still focused on privacy, which I think will attract more people. The big ones are powerful, yes, but they have questionable practices and/or companies running them. In fact, some of them are fighting over a contract with the US government. Imagine a military being run by a hallucination. One could argue SkyNet was hallucinating when it determined humanity was to be exterminated. Fictional, of course, but you never know what could happen if these companies aren't regulated by laws and consumer protection.
 
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I hate this transition. I can see the mode switcher in the web version, but the Mac Desktop app still doesn't have one. My whole project is stuck. I still don't understand why it's not visible in the Mac app.
 
I am asking out of curiousity: Are you maybe stuck BIG TIME in the AI hype and boom bubble? It is just crazy what objectivly nonsense you are shouting while thinking it would be the truth…
You’ve got your head stuck in the sand while the entire world changes around you.

I can understand that this might be scary for some people. But living in your own alternate reality is not a healthy response.
 
“Close to magic”? Are you 8 years old? Or 80? Or an AI bot paid to write this blind praise? No wonder these ludicrously overvalued companies can get away this, because they convince old, out of touch decision-makers that their technology is “close to magic”.
Don’t confuse ignorance for wisdom and sophistication. I’m simply more informed on the subject than you are.

If you were even half as informed as you likely think you are, you’d realize magic is a huge understatement.

As I’ve already told you, only electricity itself matches the significance of this technological breakthrough.

As every month passes, you guys look more and more foolish. Totally out of touch and left behind.
 
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Talk about completely misreading reality.

To put this in hardware terms, AI has gone from Pentium II level capability to Apple M1 level capability in the span of maybe 5 years.

Roughly 23 years of progress in 5 years. And yet people STILL have their heads stuck in sand.
Mainframes went to Pentium II to M1, that was progress. AI went to Data Centers which are not just a lot bigger than mainframes. 5 years of regression after more than 23 years of progress.
 
Codex Mac app has been my main UI for all work for the past couple of months. It is _extremely_ powerful. With it, I ended up mostly retiring all IDEs and also use it in editing document and spreadsheets. Now all that is integrated inside ChatGPT Mac app and it is actually great (way better than Claude Code and Claude Work has been for me).

Just to quantify: $200/m ChatGPT Pro subscription is the most value I have gotten from any tool or service. More willing to downgrade my Mac or iPhone to a many-years-old model instead of going to a less capable version of this subscription. As an Apple shareholder I am worried.

I understand that many people skeptical of AI are hesitant to even try. It is hard to grasp what such an app even does before experiencing it. I recommend giving it a try.
 
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I find Claude way better for coding and programming and debugging than GPT. Each has their own strength, Claude is horrible at images in every way haha.

"Horrible" is one way to describe it — Anthropic does not even have an image model 🙂

I have been using both Claude and Codex side-by-side for months. Both with sufficiently large subscriptions. In the last two months OpenAI models and tooling did catch up with Opus. Then Fable jumped ahead for a while, but usage limits were not usable (I am not willing to pay thousands / month for AI models). Now with 5.6 Sol the top models are equally capable, but OpenAI pricing is approachable.

If your experience on Claude Code vs Codex is from a couple of months ago, you should give it another try: Today OpenAI is in lead.
 
Don’t confuse ignorance for wisdom and sophistication. I’m simply more informed on the subject than you are.

If you were even half as informed as you likely think you are, you’d realize magic is a huge understatement.

As I’ve already told you, only electricity itself matches the significance of this technological breakthrough.

As every month passes, you guys look more and more foolish. Totally out of touch and left behind.
okay, so you are a plain ragebaiter. Got it hahaha
 
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