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OpenAI Launches 'ChatGPT Atlas' Browser to Compete with Safari and Chrome

turbineseaplane said:
Wouldn't use this if they paid me to do so.
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Yeah, it's just another browser built on top of Chrome tech. And this whole AI thing needs to find an end here soon. And I'm not just saying that as some luddite or curmudgeon... I have spent nearly the past 3 years developing AI systems, including a Large Image Model tool medical imaging. The biggest thing that I keep trying to tell everyone is when you prompt an AI, when you ask it to review your code, when you ask it to modify a photo, etc.. Anything it ingests, anything it creates, is a learning or training experience for the AI. All that data becomes part of the collective whole. So that nifty little app you just developed for your company using AI, or that specialized logistics algorithm, or whatever is now part of the collective and may just be regurgitated in some fashion or extrapolated from to build a product for your competitor. Now what about those high-ranking US Military personnel who were found to be using ChatGPT for data analytics and decision making assistance last week?

General web/Google search, social media, etc.. all harvest data. But AI is 1000X worse and being incorporated into EVERYTHING. AI is a privacy nightmare most people have not yet realized.

Have a nice day...
 
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Interesting for sure, but I’m still skeptical of AI and hesitant to put it on my machine. I’m sure Google/Skynet knows everything about me before I even search for it anyway.
 
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gleepskip said:
AI doesn't understand the concept of saying, "I don't know."
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My AI definitely says that. I have been doing some 'frontier' (ish) HCI work though so my experience does not mirror what a lot of people see.

There is amazing potential in these tools now and the paradigm is going to shift slowly and then all at once. We haven't seen anything yet if my experience the last couple months is anything to go by. There is so much more going on behind the scenes than people know about and it is very cool, as long as the given company or research team respects privacy... which some do.

This web browser though I agree is going to be a telemetry goldmine and probably as bad or worse than Chrome. GPT desktop app already needlessly contacts google, you can deny it and absolutely nothing changes about the experience, even tool use that uses google.

For general use I'm still satisfied with Safari + Kagi for search and the couple major public AIs plus some other stuff, though I do like the 'manipulate a webpage' potential here.

TwoBytes said:
Next is the open AI phone to replace the iPhone.

This is why apppe should try to stay relevant..
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This is what Jony and OpenAI are working on... my gut feeling is that they will rush it to market and miss the opportunity because the back end and technology to support their vision will not be ready at scale for 3-5+ years.

We're going to need some new technologies as well as more work on associative memory and VERY long contexts / persistent memory before these things really take off, despite nearly 1B people using AI. In 10 years the majority of humanity will be using AI in some form, I'm more sure of it now than ever before and it's based on direct experience and experimentation.

There are kludges now that unlock emergent behavior and it's awesome. I may publish some research work on this late next year, we'll see. Employer dependent.
 
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turbineseaplane said:
Wouldn't use this if they paid me to do so.
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AI in its various forms and iterations is a privacy nightmare.

All one has to do is what the greater majority of users have not done: read the terms and conditions.

It’s rather mind boggling the vast number of people who are quick to give up their data, personal details and more all because they are focused elsewhere.

Big tech and other entities are exerting control over the unsuspecting masses while laughing all the way to the bank.
 
Am I the only one that doesn’t care about data? I’ll chat to it, no problem it will probably know me better than my wife after a week.. i have nothing to hide, I’m just a regular family guy looking at sports and the odd search for …
 
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bunce66 said:
The people dismissing this are really blind. It's not about "chatting with your browser". It's about automating tasks and making ChatGPT more integrated with the browser in a way that Safari/Chrome would never allow. Rather than copy/pasting from brower to ChatGPT, it just has it built in. How is that bad?

Chrome has Gemini integrated now. Perplexity has Comet (great product by the way). And now this.

I really can't see how Apple can answer these with. They're really on the edge of becoming irrelevant in the AI space and it's just sad. Eventually, it will catch up with them as all they really care about is squeezing margin out of complacent iPhone customers.
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I installed Dia because I like Arc as my backup browser, but Dia was generic and pointless. It felt like a prototype demo built on a generic browser. I poked around with it for a bit, and deleted it. I installed Comet, which feels largely the same. I haven’t deleted it yet, but only because I haven’t got around to it yet. The only use I have found for these browsers is to ask them to summarise and list the key points of YouTube videos people have sent me that I don’t want to watch.

Every week that goes by I become more convinced that Apple’s AI strategy is the right one.
 
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Set this as my default browser, coming from Safari. I'm already liking the minimalistic interface and data controls.
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I’m not necessarily anti-AI; I think stuff like indexing in Photos is incredible, live translation in my headphones, great.

But I just don’t get the value of LLMs. I have tried using ChatGPT, and I don’t see what productive things I can do with it. I don’t trust it to give me accurate information, I don’t think it can write better than I can, I don’t care about generating fake images… I don’t seem to care about anything it does, and it baffles me that so many people hail it as this great tool.

So what are people doing with this thing? What value is it adding to a browser? Can I make it scroll through search results to find something that matches a description I give it? Is it just a glorified version of the summary tools in Safari?
 
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FyrStrike said:
Funny, these are the same kinds of comments people made back in 1992 when folks first dared to use their credit cards on the internet.
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I remember doing that for a company that sold CDs, that I had to telnet into, so of course every part of the transaction was in plain text. It was still really neat, and I wish I could go back to 'here's an inventory of what we actually have, and you can search by these methods' instead of sponsored links and search placement on places like Amazon today.
 
ReliableSource said:
I’m not necessarily anti-AI; I think stuff like indexing in Photos is incredible, live translation in my headphones, great.

But I just don’t get the value of LLMs. I have tried using ChatGPT, and I don’t see what productive things I can do with it. I don’t trust it to give me accurate information, I don’t think it can write better than I can, I don’t care about generating fake images… I don’t seem to care about anything it does, and it baffles me that so many people hail it as this great tool.

So what are people doing with this thing? What value is it adding to a browser? Can I make it scroll through search results to find something that matches a description I give it? Is it just a glorified version of the summary tools in Safari?
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zorinlynx said:
I hate that my response to nearly every bit of tech news lately is "oh god why?"

I miss when we were hearing about actual innovative stuff rather than new ways for them to take our money and/or data.
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This is so true. The en********ation of everything. There’s no innovation anymore, just companies stealing from us when “training” their AI so they can burn down forests and boil the oceans to produce slop and take away jobs. The last device that truly wowed me was my first Apple Silicon Mac and that was just a Mac but with longer battery life that didn’t burn my balls off. I remember each year CES had cool new stuff and now it’s like smart toothbrushes that have a monthly subscription and instead of 140” TVs they have 150” TVs WOW.
 
Will definitely download it and try it out. Not too sure how privacy will be respected. Waiting for Apple to have some kind of AI in Safari browser.
 
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Hi everyone,

I subscribed to ChatGPT Plus using “Sign in with Apple” and selected “Hide My Email”, so my account email is something like nnnnnnn@privaterelay.appleid.com.

The issue:
  • When logging in via Chrome or a third-party app (e.g. Atlas), it asks me for a password but I never set one. Touch ID/Face ID doesn’t appear.

Questions:
  1. How can I log in via Chrome/Atlas?
  2. Has anyone solved a similar issue? Any workaround that worked?

Thanks in advance for any help!
 
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I've been really impressed with chatGPT recently. Asked it loads of diverse stuff and it never ceases to amaze me. I accept its kinda just voodoo trickery under the hood but hey, it seems to get what Im asking and the responses have been fantastic. Having a sidecar whilst browsing might actually be useful but I'd probably not surf certain areas with it on (eg my finances!)
 
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