Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Opera As usual doesn't work in many academic sites

Opera (not the beta) still doesn't work properly at many acacemic sites like IE and FF do. One of many examples, U of Maryland's WebTycho. B
 
Ok, so Opera is for a person who needs plug-ins and find it troubling to use FireFox, and does not want to use Safari.
I can see the market for it now.

May I suggest Camino instead of FireFox, its like FireFox built for Mac OS . I am not sure if you will like it, but its pretty decent, I am guessing its a lot lighter than firefox.

Out of the box, Camino has the ugliest interface I've seen in a while. It has literally none of the things I look for in a browser other than maybe ad blocking which is still quite not as good as the one that Opera and Firefox can do.

It's not about plugins for me. The point is I want a browser to do all of the simple things I ask it to do, without installing something somebody else made. Opera has all of these features in its preferences. Firefox, Safari(I dont even get why somebody would use Safari, tbh... it does nothing), Google Chrome, and now Camino that I've seen lack in features. Only thing I'd change about Opera is the damn ugly icon. I can't find a nice blue one to match my theme. :(
 
Blue Opera icon?
Right here!
 

Attachments

  • Blue Opera Icon.png
    Blue Opera Icon.png
    17.5 KB · Views: 223
All the pro-Opera comments are starting to make me think of using it, but
I have a very hard time believing its the fastest browser out there.

Every where I went and every where I checked it stats that Safari and Chrome are the fastest. Also from my experience, thats true.
 
All the pro-Opera comments are starting to make me think of using it, but
I have a very hard time believing its the fastest browser out there.

Every where I went and every where I checked it stats that Safari and Chrome are the fastest. Also from my experience, thats true.

For the most part it's not important which browser is fastest. Those speed tests are JavaScripts that run millions of times, something you'll never run into in a real world scenario. Opera is a very advanced and well thought out browser. And I would recommend it over safari and chrome, mostly because a large company should not be in any control of the web.
 
All the pro-Opera comments are starting to make me think of using it, but
I have a very hard time believing its the fastest browser out there.

Every where I went and every where I checked it stats that Safari and Chrome are the fastest. Also from my experience, thats true.

The reason I started using Opera 10 years ago was because then, virtually all other browsers had zero configurable options and Opera could be changed to suit what you wanted. Many other browsers have since added a lot of features, firefox being the main candidate, but Opera still has a lot going for it. Speed isn't the main consideration. Being configured to exactly what you want also speeds up one's workflow.

For the most part it's not important which browser is fastest. Those speed tests are JavaScripts that run millions of times, something you'll never run into in a real world scenario. Opera is a very advanced and well thought out browser. And I would recommend it over safari and chrome, mostly because a large company should not be in any control of the web.


Indeed, I couldn't agree more. There is much more to a browser than a raw speed comparison. Chrome is very basic and not particularly configurable. Firefox seems to require endless updating for both itself and the addons. Safari is a nice little browser, but lacks a lot of features I like to use that Opera and others have. Opera has so many hidden features. You can basically make it do whatever you want. There are a few times, rare but they do happen, where I have to use another browser due to an Opera incompatibility so I wouldn't ever just have Opera, but for most uses it is my main browser.
 
What history of fastest browser? Opera has almost always been at the bottom of all the tests I've seen
Then you haven't seen a lot of tests. Opera was always the fastest. And then they released 9.5 which blew everything else out of the water. And that was when Apple started working on JIT for JavaScript and all that.

So for a year or so, other browsers have been faster than Opera at JS. But that was not the norm historically.

And now that Opera has added JIT too, it's the fastest again, as it historically has always been.

I don't care how much it's javascript engine is fast if it loads everything much slower.
Again, Opera has always been the fastest on real world sites.

Opera has never been fast.
Again, this is wrong. It is known as the fastest browser.
 
I agree benchmark speed is only one side of the coin. The other one that can speed up web surfing much more is Navigation. With mouse gestures, its in text search link clicking behavior, and its endless keyboard shortcuts (I like the single key shortcuts/deactivated by default because they might confuse people) is just so much faster to navigate than in safari or Chrome or whatever.

Still Opera 10.51 is faster than any Safari. Chrome 5 will might regain at least the JavaScript performance crown, although it gets ridiculous when the speeds are this close together.
To IE8 there is one big difference.
http://www.betanews.com/article/IE9...ha-as-Chrome-5-clobbers-King-Opera/1269289447

I also like how he describes how ridiculous a the Sun Spider Benchmark basically is.
Modern Web browsers like Firefox utilize just-in-time (JIT) compilers that look ahead through the batch of upcoming JavaScript instructions, to break down jobs into more efficient, more digestible work units. Theoretically, that means when the workload increases to 1,000, time consumed should be more like 7x or 8x. That's the type of scalability I want, and now expect, to see from a modern browser -- more so from a development build of Internet Explorer now than ever before.

When Opera Software last month told me its developers' opinion of the relative efficiency of one of the tests I had been using in our Relative Performance Index suite, I decided to pursue whether they were right. They were. Months earlier, I had resurrected an old test battery used by magazines in the Netscape days, which spun a single instruction a few thousand times and measured time elapsed. Well, in modern days, when a single instruction does nothing, and a thousand or a million repetitions of that instruction do nothing, just-in-time compilers see that it does nothing and, quite efficiently, "compile" that instruction to...nothing. So when it takes no time at all to do nothing, I frankly shouldn't be all that amazed.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.