miamialley
macrumors 68040
I really expected to like the new browser. I don't.
At all.
At all.
Opera Mini Approved for Inclusion in App Store
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PNutts
macrumors 601
Tardy to the party
Sorry. I'm probably posting a dupe but there are already 500 responses. Wow!
Anyway, the first page I opened was enough to give it a one star rating. My home page is www.myway.com. It is text only so to be fair it isn't the page Opera will brag about. However, it rendered horribly. The format was off and the text too small to read. It was basically some widely spaced lines across the page.
I'll try a few more pages to see what happens, but I'm looking in my crystal ball and see a wobbling icon with an "X" in the upper left hand corner...
Sorry. I'm probably posting a dupe but there are already 500 responses. Wow!
Anyway, the first page I opened was enough to give it a one star rating. My home page is www.myway.com. It is text only so to be fair it isn't the page Opera will brag about. However, it rendered horribly. The format was off and the text too small to read. It was basically some widely spaced lines across the page.
I'll try a few more pages to see what happens, but I'm looking in my crystal ball and see a wobbling icon with an "X" in the upper left hand corner...
sucks hope this helps
I really gave Operas Browser a spin by using it a lot on a bunch of different websites. Sure, on a 2G connection it sometimes happens to be faster by compressing the pictures. But besides the horrible Zoom Function, i just tend to have a weird feeling everytime i visit a page which demands personal details. I don't want to feed Opera with decrypted information. Opera has to add a function to disable the proxy for such things.
It's nice that Opera keeps my other pages open while i open a new tab, however Opera tends to close my opened webpages, in case i leave the program closed for a while. I don't know if this is a bug or a feature, but i'd like Opera to save my tabbed webpages, so i have them available when reopening the browser.
Additionally a lot of websites do render wrong or inaccurate on Opera. It horribly fails the HTML5 Test aswell.
l'll keep Opera on my device for further testing, but the lack of security is a huge bugger to me. Let's see how they'll update it.
It's nice that Opera keeps my other pages open while i open a new tab, however Opera tends to close my opened webpages, in case i leave the program closed for a while. I don't know if this is a bug or a feature, but i'd like Opera to save my tabbed webpages, so i have them available when reopening the browser.
Additionally a lot of websites do render wrong or inaccurate on Opera. It horribly fails the HTML5 Test aswell.
l'll keep Opera on my device for further testing, but the lack of security is a huge bugger to me. Let's see how they'll update it.
floatingspirit
macrumors 6502
Wow
spectacularly fast on an original iphone. This is amazing! This is what internet is in our dreams.
spectacularly fast on an original iphone. This is amazing! This is what internet is in our dreams.
songcunzhi
macrumors member
Glad to hear somebody got his or her dreamed Internet by using this freshly barked opera mini. Unfortunately, I just don't get the point of this well boosted browser. Everything looked fantastic in the ads, while it is barely useful in the real world. Poor zooming control, incorrect rendering, strange scrolling, not that fast(five times faster than safari in the ads?), and no html5 support, which I don't care... I think this company is really good at advertising their new products, but not so strong to realize all their promise. Trying out opera for mac after watching their ads just disapointed me in the same way.
TuffLuffJimmy
macrumors G3
Opera Browser really does seem to be for people who don't mind a little tinkering. It's definitely not for Mac users who want their computers to do everything for them.
A few comments...
Hi everyone!
First a disclaimer: I work for Opera, but not on our mobile products. I speak on behalf of myself rather than my employer here, but I thought I would comment on a couple of things anyway. From what I know, the Opera Mini team is eagerly reading the feedback out there, so your comments are not falling on deaf ears.
It should also be noted that Opera Mini doesn't necessarily have to replace Safari. Both browsers have strengths and weaknesses, and they can nicely complement each other. Opera Mini is more convenient when you are on a slower connection or data charges are in effect, while Safari might be a better choice for complex Web applications.
With that out of the way, I thought I'd clarify a few of things regarding Opera Mini:
Zooming: I think the main problem with zooming at the moment is that pinch zooming seems to work, but it doesn't work correctly. I think it will be less frustrating if you adjust to the two zoom levels currently available in Opera Mini, and simply tap the screen once to zoom in. To zoom back out, you can either double-tap, tap with two fingers, or press the "zoom out" button.
Unreadable text when zoomed out: Although Opera Mini works better on higher end phones now, the unreadable text you are seeing when zoomed out is probably something that still remains from older feature phones. That said, it might be possible to make the text readable in higher-end phones like the iPhone, while still maintaining compatibility with older phones. Let's see what the Opera Mini team can do.
Narrow text columns: This is another one that could have something to do with Opera Mini's history of running on phones on the lower end of the scale. The text is pre-wrapped to fit your screen width, so that when you zoom in, it fits perfectly without having to scroll horizontally.
User interface: What you are seeing is basically the standard Opera Mini/Mobile user interface. Some people like it, some people don't. I do realize that Apple customers are used to applications following the Apple interface guidelines, and I'm sure our Opera Mini team is taking your feedback into account. Who knows, now that the application is actually approved, maybe there's a chance that more time will be spent on platform integration.
Mobile versions of pages: Opera Mini is very new to the iPhone, so a lot of sites are probably not taking it into account. This means that when you get a site designed for iPhone when using Safari but the desktop version or a generic mobile version when using Opera Mini, this is because the site chose to send different content to different browsers. It's basically a matter of what the site decides to send. There is nothing Opera Mini can do about this, perhaps with the exception of spoofing its useragent string to pretend to be Safari. However, I do think sites will improve their browser detection over time as well.
Security and privacy: I can assure you that our Mini team takes security and privacy very seriously. Opera Software has been around for more than a decade, and I believe we have shown that we do. Still, if you have a doubt about it, yes, you should avoid using Opera Mini to transfer sensitive data.
That said, Opera Mini can actually make you more secure in some cases. If you are on a public WiFi connection, anything you do can be spied on by someone else. But if you use Opera Mini, the communication between the client on your phone and the Opera Mini servers is encrypted. That means that even if your WiFi connection is wide open, any hackers would only be able to see encrypted data fly by. But again, this is a matter of trust, and you should only use Opera Mini for sensitive communication if you trust Opera Software.
It's great to see so much passion around browsers, and it's great to see people who really know what they want from a browser too. It keeps us on our toes, you know
Hi everyone!
First a disclaimer: I work for Opera, but not on our mobile products. I speak on behalf of myself rather than my employer here, but I thought I would comment on a couple of things anyway. From what I know, the Opera Mini team is eagerly reading the feedback out there, so your comments are not falling on deaf ears.
It should also be noted that Opera Mini doesn't necessarily have to replace Safari. Both browsers have strengths and weaknesses, and they can nicely complement each other. Opera Mini is more convenient when you are on a slower connection or data charges are in effect, while Safari might be a better choice for complex Web applications.
With that out of the way, I thought I'd clarify a few of things regarding Opera Mini:
Zooming: I think the main problem with zooming at the moment is that pinch zooming seems to work, but it doesn't work correctly. I think it will be less frustrating if you adjust to the two zoom levels currently available in Opera Mini, and simply tap the screen once to zoom in. To zoom back out, you can either double-tap, tap with two fingers, or press the "zoom out" button.
Unreadable text when zoomed out: Although Opera Mini works better on higher end phones now, the unreadable text you are seeing when zoomed out is probably something that still remains from older feature phones. That said, it might be possible to make the text readable in higher-end phones like the iPhone, while still maintaining compatibility with older phones. Let's see what the Opera Mini team can do.
Narrow text columns: This is another one that could have something to do with Opera Mini's history of running on phones on the lower end of the scale. The text is pre-wrapped to fit your screen width, so that when you zoom in, it fits perfectly without having to scroll horizontally.
User interface: What you are seeing is basically the standard Opera Mini/Mobile user interface. Some people like it, some people don't. I do realize that Apple customers are used to applications following the Apple interface guidelines, and I'm sure our Opera Mini team is taking your feedback into account. Who knows, now that the application is actually approved, maybe there's a chance that more time will be spent on platform integration.
Mobile versions of pages: Opera Mini is very new to the iPhone, so a lot of sites are probably not taking it into account. This means that when you get a site designed for iPhone when using Safari but the desktop version or a generic mobile version when using Opera Mini, this is because the site chose to send different content to different browsers. It's basically a matter of what the site decides to send. There is nothing Opera Mini can do about this, perhaps with the exception of spoofing its useragent string to pretend to be Safari. However, I do think sites will improve their browser detection over time as well.
Security and privacy: I can assure you that our Mini team takes security and privacy very seriously. Opera Software has been around for more than a decade, and I believe we have shown that we do. Still, if you have a doubt about it, yes, you should avoid using Opera Mini to transfer sensitive data.
That said, Opera Mini can actually make you more secure in some cases. If you are on a public WiFi connection, anything you do can be spied on by someone else. But if you use Opera Mini, the communication between the client on your phone and the Opera Mini servers is encrypted. That means that even if your WiFi connection is wide open, any hackers would only be able to see encrypted data fly by. But again, this is a matter of trust, and you should only use Opera Mini for sensitive communication if you trust Opera Software.
It's great to see so much passion around browsers, and it's great to see people who really know what they want from a browser too. It keeps us on our toes, you know
ct2k7
macrumors G3
I don't see why it is useless - at least tell us why you think it is.
ViViDboarder
macrumors 68040
Nothing can pose a threat to Safari.... It comes pre-installed without removal options. It can't really be "threatened." Much like Internet Explorer on Windows. Maybe the EU will object to this too.
Eldiablojoe
macrumors 6502a
Okay, call me an idiot, but what's so trick-wazoo about Opera?
