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webkit

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Opera as a brand confuses me so much. They have so many different browsers and I’m like are they all just the same browser but marketed differently or actually different products

They are different products in the sense that they offer different features/benefits e.g., there's the standard Opera browser, Opera GX which is designed specifically for gaming, Opera Mini which is a "lightweight" but less feature rich browser (currently only available for Android), Opera Touch which is designed for one-handed use (also currently only available for Android), and Opera Developer which is designed for developers to test and explore new/upcoming Opera features.
 
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toll0

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Aug 13, 2024
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your data is being siphoned off to China or Russia
Earlier, I also found information confirming that Russians are also involved in the development of this browser.
But now I can't find it.

Can you drop me some links? (You can do it in private messages).
 
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ghanwani

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The ad has catchy music but shows nothing about the browser other than search bar at the bottom which I do not like.
 

NewOldStock

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So Ai makes an image and Voice recognition types for me what else is there?
Ai this and Ai that. There sure is a lot of hype for not much.
Speak and spell with add a picture yea....
ok not quite a technology marvel yet.
 

mrr

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Cool I didn’t even know that Opera browser was still around.
 

Account25476

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In what way has Opera "gained a lot of popularity" over the past five years? According to Statcounter, Opera's global usage share declined from 2.58% in July 2019 to 2.06% in July 2024. Meanwhile, Safari usage share increased from 15.05% in July 2019 to 18.39% in July 2024.
I'm sorry but that data is not correct, this is from Wikipedia.

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webkit

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I'm sorry but that data is not correct, this is from Wikipedia.

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No, the problem is the chart you posted uses different sources for data. For example, "Wikimedia" and "NetMarketShare" show drastically different percentages for the exact same month/year (October 2021).

I used Statcounter, which was also used for February 2022, February 2023 and May 2024 in the chart you posted. You had stated that Opera "gained a lot of popularity" over the past five years and therefore I used one source (Statcounter) to compare Opera's share in July 2019 to July 2024 and found it had declined from 2.58% to 2.06% for those months/years.
 

boing

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Jun 28, 2006
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I was using Opera for a long tme. Once I found out that it is owned by a Chinese company, I have reduced my usage.
Anytime I see a news post about Opera the Chinese conspiracy theories come flying in quickly. I am not sure why these people want to damage the reputation of Opera. Is it because they want no browser competition and choices, or maybe they want to push everyone to use Chrome, and we know how trustworthy Google is (sarcasm).

I suggest anyone worried about the privacy of Opera to read this: https://blogs.opera.com/security/2023/07/debunking-spyware-misinformation/

I found that post explains some of the misconceptions brought up, and provide links to their privacy statement which you can fully read. Once you read that blog post and Opera's policy statement and still don't agree with their privacy, then make the decision not to use it. Don't haphazardly listen to the conspiracists that always pop up out of the woodwork to slam Opera, please make informed choices.

With that said, also understand Opera has to make money and might have features to accomplish that goal (in the same way most of the browsers do), but you always have the option to change or disable them. Lastly, Opera is listed on the NASDAQ stock exchange (the only pure browser company I know that has done so, unless you count Google and Apple). Why would they purposely hide malicious activity, which if discovered would ruin their stock.

These Chinese theories don't make sense nor have been proven by a reputable source, so I use Opera without any worry when it comes to privacy. The reason I might consider leaving Opera in the future has nothing to do with privacy, it has more to do with all the Chromium browsers getting rid of Manifest V2. If Opera follows that path like all the other browser makers using Chromium, then it looks like I will be moving to Firefox since they will be supporting Manifest V2 into the future.
 

KillerScoregasm

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I disagree because it's not my experience at all. In all the years I've been using Safari, I have experienced none of those issues...even once. For me Safari has been the best and safest experience on Apple's mobile platform. I have almost 100 tabs open on my iPhone Safari....and it doesn't skip a beat.
I disagree because it's not my experience at all. In all the years I've been using Safari, I have experienced none of those issues...even once. For me Safari has been the best and safest experience on Apple's mobile platform. I have almost 100 tabs open on my iPhone Safari....and it doesn't skip a beat.
If you’re not joking, can we trade shoes?
 
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CarAnalogy

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I tried using Arc for iOS and Mac. On iOS it’s super fast and snappy. It’s also fast on Mac but seems to use a lot more battery life than Safari, probably because it’s built off chrome / chromium. Also, Arc doesn’t have full sync / handoff support on iOS like safari does. They may add it in the future though. I really want to like Arc but these issues were disappointing.

They did just add Handoff support. I haven't personally found it particularly battery hungry. Used it all day yesterday for like fourteen hours on battery.
 
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bondr006

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They did just add Handoff support. I haven't personally found it particularly battery hungry. Used it all day yesterday for like fourteen hours on battery.
I want your phone if it lasts 14 hours while surfing the web. The 15PM may have 14 hours of battery life, but not while continuously surfing the web. Web browsers significantly cut battery time. Sounds like you're telling a tall
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