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https://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/

Use this link to compare 11” 2018 model to the previous generation 10.5” from the drop down menu.

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There wasn’t enough thickness for a higher end camera. Putting the camera behind the screen instead of the bezel means you have you have a millimeter or two less thickness for the camera module to fit in.
The headphone jack was probably removed for a similar reason.

I think i’d rather have the bezel. I’d don’t see much advantage to Face ID on the iPad.
 
Just noticed this. And interestingly, the 11" iPad is wider than the 10.5" with the same number of pixels across - so the side bezels have actually got bigger?

The camera doesn't sit well, especially with the price increase. I'm sure it will still take good photos, but it just seems cheap and a bit misleading ('the only thing that hasn't changed is the name' - yeah, because some of it is worse :rolleyes:).

I'm also not convinced about how good FaceID will be on a tablet. I like it on my phone, but I often take notes on my iPad and have it flat on a desk. TouchID is very easy to use in this situation.

Will be holding on to my 10.5" for a little while yet.
 
Just noticed this. And interestingly, the 11" iPad is wider than the 10.5" with the same number of pixels across - so the side bezels have actually got bigger?

The camera doesn't sit well, especially with the price increase. I'm sure it will still take good photos, but it just seems cheap and a bit misleading ('the only thing that hasn't changed is the name' - yeah, because some of it is worse :rolleyes:).

I'm also not convinced about how good FaceID will be on a tablet. I like it on my phone, but I often take notes on my iPad and have it flat on a desk. TouchID is very easy to use in this situation.

Will be holding on to my 10.5" for a little while yet.

It has not the same number of pixels across. The new 11" has 2388 pixels horizontal and the old one has 2224 pixels. So no bigger bezels...
 
I wish they’d sell a version with no rear camera(no bump). I don’t care about a rear camera on my iPad.
I saw someone theorise that if it was completely flush, it would be hard to pick the iPad up from sitting on a flat surface
 
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I don't even take pictures with the iPad Pro so this won't affect me much

Still, kinda sucks to see Apple nickle and diming us in such a manner

It may have an effect if you use the iPad as a document scanner which seems to be the more common use case. In any case it seems unnecessary consider the iPhone XS seems to have OIS. I don't understand why Apple tries to make everything so damn thin, now the new iPad Pro has a bigger camera bump.
 
It may have an effect if you use the iPad as a document scanner which seems to be the more common use case. In any case it seems unnecessary consider the iPhone XS seems to have OIS. I don't understand why Apple tries to make everything so damn thin, now the new iPad Pro has a bigger camera bump.

Whoa now I see the concern, looks like this may be of concern for those using the iPad for productivity
 
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It may have an effect if you use the iPad as a document scanner which seems to be the more common use case. In any case it seems unnecessary consider the iPhone XS seems to have OIS. I don't understand why Apple tries to make everything so damn thin, now the new iPad Pro has a bigger camera bump.

Why would it? You wouldn’t use/need OIS to scan a document...

As for the number of elements, that means very little to the quality of the camera / lens.

I highly doubt anyone is going to notice this change outside of the random person that holds up their iPad to take photos and/or videos.

I agree it’s a backwards step though.
 
It's a shame it was removed but I do think its utility on an iPad is limited. OIS works well for long focal lengths or slow shutter speeds due to low lighting. The short, fixed focal length of the iPad doesn't really need OIS and the relatively small sensor size of the camera doesn't make it a great choice for low light shooting. It would also be a benefit for some creative reasons when you want a slow shutter speed but then your needing apps to provide manual control of the camera and you would generally be better served with a proper camera in the first place.

The iPad does still provide Image Stabilisation in software which for most use cases should be sufficient at the expense of some image resolution.

By the way, I love having a good camera and flash on the iPad as I use it for imaging items for eBay, scanning documents etc.
 
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