Optimal pre-OS X Mac for gaming

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  1. kylera macrumors 65816

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    In case some people might have misunderstood, I'm wondering what the best pre-OS X Mac would be for playing some old school games, such as Realmz, Marathon or Glider, for example. I would prefer a laptop model since space is a bit of luxury right now for me.

    I also ask this because I can't seem to get Sheepshaver/Basilisk II running properly, so I figure I might as well shell out for a decent Mac instead.

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. kaltsasa macrumors 6502a

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    I generally like a 604 based mac running OS 8. Seems to have a wide breadth of capability. Probably would want a G3 or G4 for some of the newer stuff though. I have both, a Cube and a 9600.

    Laptops, I'm not sure, I'm not familiar with the Powerbooks of that era. I had a Pismo that I loved to death, built like a tank, fast, stylish. I still think it was the best laptop apple ever made.
     
  3. kylera thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Funny you should mention Pismo. I just saw an ad of someone selling his for 180 bucks.
     
  4. BertyBoy macrumors 6502

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    Persevere with the quest to get Basilisk II / SheepShaver working. Ask for help if you have to.

    One of the titanium PBG4's would be ideal, I had the 500MHz but they went all the way up to 1GHz. Had a Lombard G3 too, great machine, but for the OS9 games you felt you needed a bit more power, even just a jump to a G4.
     
  5. PracticalMac macrumors 68030

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    It is!
    Magazine site puts it at the best laptop Apple ever made. :D

    You can get and early Aluminum G4 PowerBook to run all your classic games. I think they boot into Classic just fine (but check it out first).
     
  6. Rodus macrumors 6502a

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    The fastest Mac that can boot OS 9.2 is the G4 MDD 1.25 Ghz, if you can find one with an Nvidia GeForce 4Ti then you'll have the ultimate pre-OS X machine.
    Laptop wise one of the Powerbook G4 Titaniums is snappy enough for some good old school gaming, both the above machines are also useable for light work/email/web browsing today and make excellent backup computers.
     
  7. Rodus macrumors 6502a

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    The 12" are lovely machines but the problem with any kind of 3D gaming on them is the pathetic GeForce 5200 GPU.
     
  8. kylera thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Not to mention that the 12-incher doesn't even support OS 9 / Classic mode.
     
  9. dmr727 macrumors G3

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    If space is really at a premium, you should put in the effort to get Sheepshaver/Basilisk running. I'm all for purchasing vintage hardware, but if you're not in it for the nostalgia, it makes more sense to just emulate it, IMO.

    Here's a very helpful link for sheepshaver:

    http://www.redundantrobot.com/sheepshaver-tutorial/
     
  10. kylera thread starter macrumors 65816

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    It's not to the point that I can barely get into my room :p

    It's just that should I put in a tower Mac, I need to re-arrange stuff, not to mention add another monitor on top of that. So there's also a tidiness element somewhere.
     
  11. mrkramer macrumors 603

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    I think you can get a switch so you can use just one monitor for both of your computers. But if you really want a laptop, either go for the Pismo, or a G4 Titanium. Both are good computers for their age, I personally prefer the design of the pismo.
     
  12. Ungibbed macrumors 6502

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    I would also go for a Pismo if you can find one in great shape. The design is possibly the best I've ever seen from Apple aside from the unibody MacBook Pro.

    I myself had a :apple: Wallstreet G3 and amazingly, the battery still would keep that laptop running for over an hour. Still, it had it's drawbacks (no built in AirPort, and I didn't have the DVD decoder), so on eBay it went.

    The Pismo is essentially a premium version of the early 14" IceBook being far easier to work on and it was just a much better machine for classic Mac gaming
     
  13. edddeduck macrumors 68020

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    The GF 4Ti did not have hardware acceleration (in the Mac drivers) so it was not that great as a gaming card in the Mac as I recall :( I would instead recommend an ATI 9800 card which you can get in a 128MB config. As the second card get a Voodoo 5500 card (very very rare) and the leaked final drivers if you want to play any unreal game like unreal tournament 99 or DeusEx the Voodoo card looks amazing.

    I had a setup like this until the motherboard died, the only downside to the dual G4 was the noise they are not quiet my G4 was called Dyson for a reason :)

    Edwin
     
  14. cluthz macrumors 68040

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    Realmz and Marathon will run on every PPC mac just fine. I played Marathon and Realmz on my Centris 650 (25 mhz and 16MB RAM).

    SHeepshaver runs great on OSX tho, you just need to find a decent ROM file.
     
  15. RedTomato macrumors 68040

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    G4 powerbooks went up to 1.5GHZ. I know as I have one in the attic. A beautiful 15'' unit. I think I was able to run Classic on it but don't quote me on that, as I was never much interested in Classic mode.

    You should be able to get a 15'' or 17'' 1.5ghz PowerBook quite cheaply nowadays, possibly with max RAM (I think 2GB?). I see no good reason to get any less as you have the advantage of lovely screen, large RAM, pretty fast processor, beautiful laptop with backlit keyboard, and RAM / power cord / batteries are still somewhat available.
     
  16. goMac macrumors 603

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    Aluminum Powerbooks only will run Classic mode under OS X, they won't boot full classic, which makes them sub par machines for games. I know of quite a few old school games that don't work with Classic.

    The last laptop that could do a full OS 9 boot was the Titanium Powerbook. That is as new as I would go. They run up to 1 ghz.

    Apple also had a special run of late model G4 towers that could boot OS 9. I have a dual processor 1.25 G4 that boots OS 9.
     
  17. Scooby_Doo macrumors member

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    I would also think an iBook G3 would suit your needs quite well.

    Another thumbs up for a Pismo Powerbook or any of the Titanium Powerbook G4s. My 1ghz TiBook still runs pretty well!
     

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