Oracle Warns macOS 14.4 Can Cause Java to Terminate Unexpectedly

[MacRumors]

Oracle this week warned that the macOS 14.4 update released earlier this month for Macs can cause Java processes to "terminate unexpectedly."

In a blog post on Friday, Oracle's Senior Director of Product Management Aurelio Garcia-Ribeyro recommended that Apple silicon Mac users who rely on Java avoid updating to macOS 14.4 until the issue is resolved by Apple:

An issue introduced by macOS 14.4, which causes Java process[es] to terminate unexpectedly, is affecting all Java versions from Java 8 to the early access builds of JDK 22. There is no workaround available, and since there is no easy way to revert a macOS update, affected users might be unable to return to a stable configuration unless they have a complete backup of their systems prior to the OS update.

The blog post and bug report include more technical details about the issue.

Oracle says it has notified Apple about the issue. Apple did not immediately respond to our request for comment about the matter.

Update: macOS 14.4 also has compatibility issues with audio plugins protected by PACE/iLok.

Article Link: Oracle Warns macOS 14.4 Can Cause Java to Terminate Unexpectedly

 

[CyberGene]

I’m a Java backend engineer and my company provided Mac was updated to 14.4 and I’ve been experiencing unexpected termination of my dev environment a few times a day ever since. I thought it was the IDE, but it’s really frustrating to learn that it’s Apple to blame.

 

[MagicBird]

Who needs Java anyway… the 90’s called, they want their tech back

 

[SVTmaniac]

I'll be honest, I didn't even know Java still existed.

 

[vegetassj4]

We're only buggin:

 

[Coizu]

Who needs Java anyway… the 90’s called, they want their tech back

That only holds up for Java on the desktop. Java runs a good amount of internet services behind the scenes and the devs maintaining and developing those are not able to do their job properly now.

 

[coffeemilktea]

Apple did not immediately respond to our request for comment about the matter.

I imagine whoever handles PR was about to respond with "a bug? Terminating Java is a feature, and you're welcome!" but realized it's not good corporate-speak.

 

[jz0309]

Java? I suppose a lot of biz apps might still be using it, my last company blocked all updates .

 

[andrewxgx]

news seems relevant for all 17 people still using it

 

[bsolar]

I'll be honest, I didn't even know Java still existed.

While Java nowadays is basically irrelevant for desktop end-user applications, it is still a very relevant backend technology.

This means the most likely affected demographics are Java developers that have a Java development environment on their Macs.

 

[CookItOff]

Remember when Oracle said F the Mac we aren't going to support it and Jobs had to implement a work around?

"Oracle supplies Java for all other platforms except for the Mac. Due to differences in release schedules, Apple's implementation of Java is always a version behind. Jobs indicates "This may not be the best way to do it."

Steve Jobs Comments on Apple's Java Discontinuation

Apple's announcement that they would be ceasing future development of their version of Java for the Mac has generated concern amongst Java...

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[seek3r]

Who needs Java anyway… the 90’s called, they want their tech back

It’s one of the biggest languages around….

 

[UliBaer]

Who needs Java anyway… the 90’s called, they want their tech back

Well, outside your little Apple-desktop-and-apps-world there is the great wide internet with big business servers, which are mainly driven by Java - surprise!
All developers for that well needed backends are now extremely handycapped - simple as that! Apple should asap provide a patch, or the fellow developers insisting of using a mac will be target for laughter from colleagues... 🤣

 

[wilhoitm]

I’m a Java backend engineer and my company provided Mac was updated to 14.4 and I’ve been experiencing unexpected termination of my dev environment a few times a day ever since. I thought it was the IDE, but it’s really frustrating to learn that it’s Apple to blame.

Apple? How about Oracle? Java is 28 years old! If Sun Microsystems still owned Java this probably never would have happened!

 

[MoXoM]

In the last few days I have received emails from different Audio Plugin developers warning against updating to SONOMA 14.4 if using Apple Silicon Macs as it may disrupt the functionality of iLok-authorised plugins.

So far I've received emails from McDSP, Universal Audio and iZotope.

Curiously it seems only those plugins in Audio Unit (AU) format (as used in Logic Pro) seem to be causing issues (not VST3 or AAX format).

Luckily I'm still on macOS Monterey...

 

[AlmightyKang]

I love the naivety about Java. People literally have no idea where it is actually used.

That said I wish it'd die.

 

[wilhoitm]

It’s one of the biggest languages around….

Java is the new COBOL! Python FTW!

 

[mashdots]

I love the naivety about Java. People literally have no idea where it is actually used.

That said I wish it'd die.

I remember my first engineering gig was for TripAdvisor in one of their Spring boot back-ends and I hated it. Just a nightmare to debug anything in.

 

[now i see it]

To put things into perspective…
When Mac OSX Snow Leopard was released, it broke Adobe CS software. Photoshop was broken, InDesign, etc. it wasn’t until 10.6.8 that Snow Leopard became the masterpiece that history remembers.

 

[sdf]

I’m a Java backend engineer and my company provided Mac was updated to 14.4 and I’ve been experiencing unexpected termination of my dev environment a few times a day ever since. I thought it was the IDE, but it’s really frustrating to learn that it’s Apple to blame.

I don't use Java much, but I thought Apple had backed out of it completely and Oracle was maintaining it solo now.

 

[meetree]

Unfortunately, JetBrains IDEs (PyCharm, Goland, etc.) are based on Java, so many developers are affected even if they don't develop Java apps.

 

[goodbye_harmony]

To put things into perspective…
When Mac OSX Snow Leopard was released, it broke Adobe CS software. Photoshop was broken, InDesign, etc. it wasn’t until 10.6.8 that Snow Leopard became the masterpiece that history remembers.

Outrageous lies. We never had bugs until Tim Cook came along!

 

[Polinsky]

Who needs Java anyway… the 90’s called, they want their tech back

My goodness, such an ignorant statement. If only you really knew how and where Java was being used today.

 

[seek3r]

Java is the new COBOL! Python FTW!

So you’re saying younger Java devs stand to rake in a fortune after the old guard retires?

Personally though I actually do work a lot more in python, though I occasionally have to touch java code for some of our backend apps

 

[AlmightyKang]

I remember my first engineering gig was for TripAdvisor in one of their Spring boot back-ends and I hated it. Just a nightmare to debug anything in.

Oh you poor soul. Spring's acres of XML era was pretty awful. I avoided that but I did inherit a Spring.Net project a number of years ago. That was like Spring on Java but less mature, with poor documentation, land mines everywhere and ran on top of IIS just because you needed your balls kicking just that little bit harder.

Glad I don't do that now!