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It's like missing the two finger right click, on the iBook G4. It's capable of two finger scroll, so it can't be any thing else then a software matter to make it do right clicking via two fingers.

iScroll2 does that... i have two finger scroll and right click on my ibook g4. The big point is, even if adding a feature is as easy as a little software update, apple won´t do that since they want us to buy the new toys.
 
iScroll2 does that... i have two finger scroll and right click on my ibook g4. The big point is, even if adding a feature is as easy as a little software update, apple won´t do that since they want us to buy the new toys.
As I said in my earlier post, Apple has added that feature to the 12" PB. It just took them until 10.5 to give support to it.
 
I hope this becomes available for Multi-touch MBP's (early 2008).

Although there's so many gestures now it's getting confused.

Three finger back/forward in Safari is the most useful gesture I know, I've even stopped using the Mighty Mouse whilst browsing.
 
i love the gesture features and might even think about getting a macbook air again now that I could use a 2nd computer for home use. Interesting stuff.
 
I hope this becomes available for Multi-touch MBP's (early 2008).

Although there's so many gestures now it's getting confused.

Three finger back/forward in Safari is the most useful gesture I know, I've even stopped using the Mighty Mouse whilst browsing.

I love the four finger Expose and App switching myself.
 
You don't need this

Prior to the arrival of the new MBP and four-finger gestures, I had already installed Multiclutch and enabled three-finger up and down swipe and attached it to Exposé: up for all windows and down for application ones.

This is a better and more intuitive gesture than the one that Apple subsequently introduced. Four fingers are simply unnecessary. And I use the downswipe more than the upswipe particularly for PhotoShop and MS Windows running under Parallels.

I also attached right and left three finger swipes to change tabs in Safari and Pathfinder.

No need for hacks.

Multiclutch is donation-ware, get it here:

http://wcrawford.org/2008/02/28/everytime-i-think-about-you-i-touch-my-cell/
 
Dunno what support they did have, but I do know that iScroll2 sucked. It was ok, but quite clear why Apple didn't support 2 finger scrolling on the things. Behaviour was jumpy and occasionally erratic.

Part of the problem of unofficial 3rd party drivers... they gotta reverse-engineer the system. It was more of a proof of concept I think, saying that the hardware was there.
 
Four fingers unnecessary?

No one ever needs more than 640kb*

*yes, I know thats an urban rumour

I didn't mean that four fingers would not be necessary, but when three finger vertical swipes haven't been utilized it seems unnecessary to introduce four-finger ones.
 
Part of the problem of unofficial 3rd party drivers... they gotta reverse-engineer the system. It was more of a proof of concept I think, saying that the hardware was there.

Nope. They didn't have to reverse-engineer anything.

iScroll2 is just a modified version of the open source driver for the trackpad [in the supported machines].

I actually used it for a couple years, and never had an issue with it -- but I will admit, it did take some fine-tuning before the settings felt "fluid".

Oh, and as to everyone complaining about Apple not giving them this feature for free: relax. Seriously.

1) You bought the hardware (you _did_ buy the hardware, right?) knowing full well what you were getting. Apple is not obligated to retroactively give you features that it never advertised for your model. They likely will (see next point), but acting as though Apple has done you some horrible injustice is just silly.

2) The build of 10.5.5 shipped on the current MacBook Airs is, as you might expect, specific to those machines. It wasn't released through the normal channels, it wasn't seeded to ADC members, and it's pretty clearly a "just-in-time" release designed to provide preliminary support for the hardware they started shipping. The reason Apple hasn't provided scrolling for the first gen machines is, most likely, because the trackpad drivers in that build of 10.5.5 are fairly new, not to mention not part of the "official" 10.5.5. They're not withholding it just to spite you -- they most likely want to violate any of the current release patterns. Synchronizing your releases and sticking to rules are good practices when it comes to software development, even if it does piss off a few people on a forum somewhere.

3) You don't want to ship hardware drivers unless you're sure they work reliably. Doubly so for storage and input drivers.

Instead of getting all wound up and decrying Apple as an evil, corrupt, moneygrubbing, etc company, why not just wait until 10.5.6 or (failing that) 10.6. If the software support isn't there, then shrug, realize they never advertised it and (if you want it) hack your drivers. If it is, then consider it a nice bonus that you're getting a feature that you didn't have (and that wasn't advertised) when you got the laptop.
 
pre-2008 MBP seems to have three finger at least...

Whenever I try to scroll using three fingers on pre-2008 MBP, it does not work. I think this seems to imply that even pre-2008 MBP at least has three finger gesture.

I really wish someone can come up with the hack for this.... I don't really care about four fingers-fancy three fingers more than anything cause that would make web browsing so much easier~
 
I really hope this becomes an upgrade for the February 2008 MBP and MBA, owning a MBP myself.

I don't mind if it is a paid upgrade like the iPod touch software, because I use the current gestures all the time with Multiclutch, which is great btw.
 
If you think about it, the 4-finger gesture for expose is almost useless if you use the active screen corners. What I would really like in my 2007 Macbook is enable the 3-finger gestures to swipe between pictures and use the zoom and rotate gestures. I'm more interested in that.
 
What I would really like in my 2007 Macbook is enable the 3-finger gestures to swipe between pictures and use the zoom and rotate gestures. I'm more interested in that.

yeah, i'd like the same thing with my early 2008 macbook. Sounds like a good idea to update the gestures for the Air though.
 
Prior to the arrival of the new MBP and four-finger gestures, I had already installed Multiclutch and enabled three-finger up and down swipe and attached it to Exposé: up for all windows and down for application ones.

I did the same. It works great except on Carbon apps (i.e. Finder). Also, I can't seem to be able to click and drag something from one window to another while using a swipe to activate expose. It works with F3 though. Weird.
 
Whenever I try to scroll using three fingers on pre-2008 MBP, it does not work. I think this seems to imply that even pre-2008 MBP at least has three finger gesture.

I really wish someone can come up with the hack for this.... I don't really care about four fingers-fancy three fingers more than anything cause that would make web browsing so much easier~

Your MBP's trackpad will never support anything beyond two-finger scrolling and two-finger right-clicking. It does not have the multitouch controller chip on the trackpad, so your hardware will not support the new gestures.

The only models of Apple notebooks that support multitouch gestures of any kind beyond basic two-finger scrolling and right clicking have the multitouch chip in the trackpad; this is the same multitouch controller as the iPhone. The only models of Apple notebooks that have this chip are:

MacBook Air (all models)
Early 2008 MacBook Pro
Late 2008 Unibody MacBook Pro
Late 2008 Unibody MacBook

Plastic MacBooks and MacBook Pros manufactured before Early 2008 do not and never will support pinching, rotating, or three- or four-finger gestures. They lack the hardware necessary to recognise them.
 
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