OS 10.5.3 Update: any 8800 performance improvements?

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  1. gehrbox macrumors 65816

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    Anybody see improvements on 8800 equipped machines as far as pro-apps or general desktop performance?
     
  2. xxjuicymintxx macrumors regular

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    *checks*

    ...:( Nope. No changes here.

    [Oh wait, that's right. I'm not fortunate to have that lovely iMac w/ that Graphics. Such a disappointment.]
     
  3. suncruiser2007 macrumors newbie

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    anyone tested the 10.5.3 with the 8800GS-machine?
     
  4. gehrbox thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I followed the 10.5.3. thread. The following was reported:

    - Somebody reported Dock tearing still present.

    - Another reported the following:

    I'm on a Mac Pro not an iMac, but I've been waiting for this update to improve my 8800 performance. It's not as good as I'd hoped for.

    Xbench graphic results...

    Quartz
    10.5.2 - 215.65
    10.5.3 - 202.54

    OpenGL
    10.5.2 - 161.83
    10.5.3 - 138.43

    User Interface
    10.5.2 - 263.37
    10.5.3 - 264.60

    I have my screen set to flash on alerts, this is still jittery, which is why I'm saying it's not as improved as I'd hoped for. My X1900 was never jittery like that.


    - Yet another reported the following:

    Preliminary testing says ProApps performance is up!

    Barefeats test (with better system than mine in parenthesis):
    Atom Strand: 14.93 (16.4)
    Dotted Axis: 17.89 (30.4) !
    Directions: 19.68 (21.2)
    Blocks detail: 58.92 (could not fit everything in RAM, rendered 9 seconds only)
    Brush Open: 25.26 [PAL], 23.99 [NTSC] (25.2)
    Light Open: 39.49 (46.5)
    Satin Blue Background: 31.76 (34.4)
    Sketch Open: 24.5 (23.2)

    Notes: Testing was very unscientific. Specs are Mac Pro 2.66 Mac OS X (10.5.3) 4 GB Ram, 8800GT, 6.66 TB + 150GB 10K RPM Raptor vs BF's "Early 2008" 16GB RAM machine. And also BF does not mention if they are using NTSC or PAL templates. Still results seem to have improved in most cases. Obviously this should have been tested against my own machine running 10.5.2, but I didn't have time to run those tests. Suffice to say it "feels" faster.


    Hope this helps ya'll out
     
  5. barefeats macrumors 65816

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    Core Image apps faster

    We at the Bare Feats lab are seeing significant speed gains in Core Image intensive apps on our iMac 3.06GHz with GeForce 8800 GS after upgrading to 10.5.3:

    iMovie import and thumbnail render = 39% faster

    iMaginator Core Image Morph = 19% faster

    Motion 3 Template RAM Preview
    Blocks - Detail.HD = 18% faster
    Tech Blue - Open 2.HD = 21% faster

    We'll post the detailed results on the site tomorrow morning.
     
  6. D4F Guest

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    Very nice :)
    Cheers
     
  7. gehrbox thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I guess the question that needs to be raised now is has the 2600 also seen performance gains with 10.5.3?
     
  8. imac123 macrumors regular

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    what exactly does "tearing" mean? as in "dock tearing" ?
     
  9. downset macrumors member

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    framerates in wow are identical before and after update
     
  10. gehrbox thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I think the post was talking about the animation during magnification. I tried to find the post again, but could not locate it in the thread.
     
  11. 50548 Guest

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    Excellent news. This will finally wash away any presumptions that the 2600 is better than the 8800, even for iApps...GO APPLE!
     
  12. D4F Guest

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    Well... technically :)
    if the improvement % is presented against the 8800 running on 10.5.2 then it still might not be the case in which it will surpass the 2600 in core image numbers as some differences were close to 50%.

    I wanna see full test tho no matter what :D
     
  13. Dartholomew macrumors newbie

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    If true, this gives me the impression that the 8800 is >2x faster in games, and equivalent in speed in core image processes. That kind of begs the question of whether there is even more performance to be gleaned out of the 8800.

    Somewhat counter-intuitively, my instincts tell me "no" or "not much." There are a lot of tricks and tweaks gpus take advantage of to render games quickly, often at the expense of nearly-imperceptible differences in video quality. However, when you lock them to the high precision and quality requirements needed to present a seamless desktop UI, you can't take a lot of those shortcuts. I imagine gpu makers focus a lot on the hardware components needed to maximize game performance (not just drivers), and the more high-quality/precision pathways aren't nearly as optimized/shortcutted.
     
  14. SaSaSushi macrumors 68040

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    Yeah, I'm really glad to see that the nVidia 8800 is seeing some improvements but I also hope that Barefeats will retest the ATI 2600 as well under 10.5.3 and do the whole head to head again.
     
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    Barefeats just posted the test.
    From what I can tell the core image in the 8800 is now similar to 2600 so it clearly makes it a better all around card as with 3D the 8800 still blows the 2600 by light years.

    Good news I guess. I was hoping for better but you can't have it all :)

    http://barefeats.com/imp04.html
     
  16. yagru macrumors member

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    sweet.. this is the first update of the driver since the imac release right? so i would guess the numbers will even get a little better over time.. not bad!
     
  17. 50548 Guest

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    And my new iMac is HOME!!! I haven't opened the box yet just to keep the suspense..! Wish me luck, guys!!! :D:D:D
     
  18. D4F Guest

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    Congratz :)
    Let us know once you open it :)
     

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