Os x 10.10.4

[Reality4711]

Question

this happens with every OSX apple released. I still use mavericks at work, and its borderline unusable at times with multiple programs open.

What are you doing at work to cause this borderline unusable? Oh and on what machine?

Friendly enquiry; just interested.

Regards

Sharkey

 

[fisherking]

this happens with every OSX apple released. I still use mavericks at work, and its borderline unusable at times with multiple programs open.

because this is happening for you, it's a universal issue?

 

[crashoverride77]

Yep. Still laggy with 10.10.4.

Animations are smooth after restart but using an external display or working a few hours and the 10 fps UI animations are back

I guess all OS X software engineers are busy fiddling with their new Apple watches

I think you might be exaggerating but I still agree. Yosemite has been pretty sweet for me apart from the fact that under certain long hour usage senarios it will slow down and not recover unless you restart.
This seems to have been getting better since release but it's still not quite like it used to be.

 

[oneshotpro]

What are you doing at work to cause this borderline unusable? Oh and on what machine?

Friendly enquiry; just interested.

Regards

Sharkey

Design work using, Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign with regular programs like Mail, Chrome open on a iMac 27" 16GB RAM. Any form of quick program switching, or while working on multiple files makes it quite slow.

 

[Reality4711]

Thanks for the response - my comments

Design work using, Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign with regular programs like Mail, Chrome open on a iMac 27" 16GB RAM. Any form of quick program switching, or while working on multiple files makes it quite slow.

Yep; that is grunt sort of work.

So just to get it straight. Was this a planned choice of machine by capability or budget?

Have you considered a 32Gb ram upgrade to help with multiple programmes being open?

This is not a put down, just trying to be helpful and learn at the same time.

I went down a similar route a few years ago but for peace of mind returned to the MacPro. I suppose because what was doing was more 'truck driving' that 'F1'. and the extra grunt and solidity gave me more confidence.

Since retiring I have found my MacPro a calming companion with my photography even with a base image of 75mb and up to 20 layers. It is just for my pleasure but I know I can go as far as I like without the niggles starting as I had with the iMac and MacMini (even when maxed out & more).

Interested to hear your thinking.

Regards

Sharkey

 

[ncrypt]

Design work using, Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign with regular programs like Mail, Chrome open on a iMac 27" 16GB RAM. Any form of quick program switching, or while working on multiple files makes it quite slow.

I have exactly the same use case on my 2014 15" rMBP with 16GB RAM. Painfully sluggish on Yosemite but buttery smooth on Mavericks. Looks like I'll be staying on 10.9 for a while

 

[oneshotpro]

Yep; that is grunt sort of work.

So just to get it straight. Was this a planned choice of machine by capability or budget?

Have you considered a 32Gb ram upgrade to help with multiple programmes being open?

This is not a put down, just trying to be helpful and learn at the same time.

I went down a similar route a few years ago but for peace of mind returned to the MacPro. I suppose because what was doing was more 'truck driving' that 'F1'. and the extra grunt and solidity gave me more confidence.

Since retiring I have found my MacPro a calming companion with my photography even with a base image of 75mb and up to 20 layers. It is just for my pleasure but I know I can go as far as I like without the niggles starting as I had with the iMac and MacMini (even when maxed out & more).

Interested to hear your thinking.

Regards

Sharkey

It's just what was given by the company, I was even on 8GB ram until a few months ago when I asked for the upgrade to 16GB which ended up being still not enough. Then A colleague noticed it taking forever to open a program when needing help with a projecct and brought it up to the company again, so now they are considering another upgrade or switching to a new mac. Not sure if they would drop $4k on the mac pro though.

 

[Reality4711]

It's just what was given by the company, I was even on 8GB ram until a few months ago when I asked for the upgrade to 16GB which ended up being still not enough. Then A colleague noticed it taking forever to open a program when needing help with a projecct and brought it up to the company again, so now they are considering another upgrade or switching to a new mac. Not sure if they would drop $4k on the mac pro though.

A maxed out non retina 27" iMac in UK is £3200 & 6core Mac Pro with 32Gb ram is £3299
Ok you gotta dig out a display etc but its still not that much difference in money for a heck of a difference in processing power and reliability.

Do you have to have that many progs. open at a time?

Does the company keep the software up to scratch or do you?

Is yours the only machine that suffers in this way?

Sometime keeping a gap between software requirements and hardware capability is a good thing. Getting off the upgrade roundabout goes unnoticed to the client if it means they get serviced quicker. e.g.. Using CS5 on my stuff is actually faster than if i was using CC or CS6 and i cannot say it is detrimental to my product quality.

Oh I forgot; which iMac is it?

Keep the info coming.

Regards

Sharkey

 

[oneshotpro]

A maxed out non retina 27" iMac in UK is £3200 & 6core Mac Pro with 32Gb ram is £3299
Ok you gotta dig out a display etc but its still not that much difference in money for a heck of a difference in processing power and reliability.

Do you have to have that many progs. open at a time?

Does the company keep the software up to scratch or do you?

Is yours the only machine that suffers in this way?

Sometime keeping a gap between software requirements and hardware capability is a good thing. Getting off the upgrade roundabout goes unnoticed to the client if it means they get serviced quicker. e.g.. Using CS5 on my stuff is actually faster than if i was using CC or CS6 and i cannot say it is detrimental to my product quality.

Oh I forgot; which iMac is it?

Keep the info coming.

Regards

Sharkey

Usually I've only got Photoshop/Mail/Skype as only open Illustrator/Indesign if I get some random print project, even then it can still slow down. I usually update the software, mainly just CC.

We have a identical mac (2011, 27 inch), similar performance...its on lion though. We've only ever had the Adobe subscription (company is 3-4 years old), so no luck there. Having to have Creative Cloud open I'm sure doesn't help...

 

[fisherking]

except for a delay moving email to folders in apple mail...10.10.4 is my best OS X experience yet (still, there's always something).

and my fave OS X since 10.6.8...

 

[crjackson2134]

except for a delay moving email to folders in apple mail...10.10.4 is my best OS X experience yet (still, there's always something).

and my fave OS X since 10.6.8...

What specifically makes this version your "best OS X experience yet".

Earlier you said it's the same as 10.10.3.

am having no problems in 10.10.4, except a lag moving email to a folder in apple mail (this happened in 10.10.3 as well); reported it to apple.

otherwise (so far), a stellar experience (but no perceivable difference between this and my 10.10.3 experience).

personally, am enjoying yosemite...

Please elaborate...

 

[Reality4711]

Usually I've only got Photoshop/Mail/Skype as only open Illustrator/Indesign if I get some random print project, even then it can still slow down. I usually update the software, mainly just CC.

We have a identical mac (2011, 27 inch), similar performance...its on lion though. We've only ever had the Adobe subscription (company is 3-4 years old), so no luck there. Having to have Creative Cloud open I'm sure doesn't help...

I suppose you go through a company network for the web connection. Probably a real bottleneck.

Is it not possible to shut down the apps your not using except maybe the mail/skype to keep you in contact.

I have noticed on my home machine using Skype or even faces will slow any rendering or heavy layering in progress.

In the past my studio machines were only connected to the web via one dedicated machine but I guess thats a bit old school. All customer communication went through me; personal stuff was in their own time and on their machinery.

Plus they were allWindows boxes so keeping them separate made trouble shooting more in house plus the big hammer.

The only things I can suggest are really company dependant except trying not to use progs. open if you can do without them.

You could try putting together one of them "efficiency" reports detailing actual improvements possible with an upgrade (if you can be sure to make them if they buy new kit)

Regards

Sharkey

 

[fisherking]

What specifically makes this version your "best OS X experience yet".

Earlier you said it's the same as 10.10.3.

Please elaborate...

on my late 2011 macbook pro (8g ram, 250gb ssd), yosemite is stable, fast. light. am enjoying most of the GUI. all my apps work.

am not seeing much difference between 10.10.3 and 10.10.4 except:
1. my mbp doesn't get as hot. 2. moving an email into a folder lags.

overall, am happy, and focused on the work, and not the OS. as it should be...

 

[crjackson2134]

on my late 2011 macbook pro (8g ram, 250gb ssd), yosemite is stable, fast. light. am enjoying most of the GUI. all my apps work.

am not seeing much difference between 10.10.3 and 10.10.4 except:
1. my mbp doesn't get as hot. 2. moving an email into a folder lags.

overall, am happy, and focused on the work, and not the OS. as it should be...

Got it, thanks...

 

[simonsi]

am not seeing much difference between 10.10.3 and 10.10.4 except:
1. my mbp doesn't get as hot.

Interesting, I'm on an early 2011 (also no issues), I noticed a drop in temps and noticeable increase in battery duration from the 10.10.2 to 10.10.3 update.

 

[fisherking]

Interesting, I'm on an early 2011 (also no issues), I noticed a drop in temps and noticeable increase in battery duration from the 10.10.2 to 10.10.3 update.

interesting. i didn't notice any battery change, but my mbp was definitely running hotter...and is better in 10.10.4.

am having no issues (so far..), except the mail thing: dragging an email to a folder is really sluggish (and i've reported it to apple).

really, for me, yosemite is on it's way to out snow leoparding snow leopard