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Os X crash Statistics

Not being a computer genius by any means, I do not know the formal definiton of a computer "crashing". If having it clogged up by Spy/Adware, to the point of un-usability, then my XP System crashes everytime it is started up (2-3 types per day). This is unfortunate because now my Mom likes to use my unfathomably stable Powerbook instead.
 
Haven't had a kernel panic on my iBook in the three months or so that I've had it. My Cube has had one or two in a couple years. The last time I had to force a restart was when the system hung the first time I opened up Word 2004. Go figure.
 
mms said:
Haven't had a kernel panic on my iBook in the three months or so that I've had it. My Cube has had one or two in a couple years. The last time I had to force a restart was when the system hung the first time I opened up Word 2004. Go figure.
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Word X is buggy. Seems like Word 2004 is also buggy. Typical Microsoft.
I haven't had any kernel panics since the first day I got my iMac - the cause was corrupt power manager settings, which the folks at my local Apple Store fixed for me.
 
7on said:
I tend not to get kernel panics often, rather I get a screen freeze. Sometimes happens in Halo (game just stops on a frame) and sometimes in FCE. Then there are sometimes I get it when I put it to sleep (screen goes off but the book doesn't sleep). I believe it's a memory issue, though not bad memory because then I'd get kernel panics. I probably just get a corrupted cache now and then.

That reminds me, OSX tends to get corrupted files moreso than WinXP. If Tiger fixes this at all I'll buy it.
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See that is what really surprised me when I began using the G5's in the school labs! It just ended up like every other time I went to use a G5, I would HAVE to clear the .plist for Safari (otherwise it would lock up :( and I would have to force quit it). I mean, this is by no means an equivalent to a "jam-packed" Windows registry after 3 years of spyware/download.com utilities installations, but it remains an annoyance that I did NOT expect to find on the Mac platform. I would hope the corrupted .plist does not end up happening to Office.X or other applications, as it would then become a bigger hassle :(

*Is there a utility that would scan the Library .plists for corrupt ones?*
As a maintenance application I suppose?

Or are Mac users left to just doing a manual delete, re-open application?
 
Mav451 said:
See that is what really surprised me when I began using the G5's in the school labs! It just ended up like every other time I went to use a G5, I would HAVE to clear the .plist for Safari (otherwise it would lock up :( and I would have to force quit it). I mean, this is by no means an equivalent to a "jam-packed" Windows registry after 3 years of spyware/download.com utilities installations, but it remains an annoyance that I did NOT expect to find on the Mac platform. I would hope the corrupted .plist does not end up happening to Office.X or other applications, as it would then become a bigger hassle :(

*Is there a utility that would scan the Library .plists for corrupt ones?*
As a maintenance application I suppose?

Or are Mac users left to just doing a manual delete, re-open application?
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It's possible to scan plists for general corruption, since they all use a standard format. It's not possible to check for things like making sure preferences in plist files have valid values, since that is application-specific. I don't know of any utilities that do this, but I'm sure you could "fake" one by scripting the Property List Editor utility that comes with Xcode.
 
The only possible OS crashes I've had with WinXP is when I close my laptop, it goes on standby, then try to wake it up...sometimes it doesn't. I just set it to hibernate, and it works much better. But this might be Dell's fault. Also, I've had other various hardware faults, like the harddrive (cheap Dell)!

Otherwise, IE likes to quit, and other 3rd party software, but XP is fine.

So I would like to say "No crashes", but a decent amount of upkeep.
 
My G3s tend to crash semi-regularly (the imac about nce per session, the ibook about half as frequently). I'm hard pressed to even remember my G4s crashing under OSX, it may never have happened.
 
iBook G4 for 8 months 0 crashes just really smooth operation.
iMac Core Duo going on a month super fast and not one problem other than the lack of Universal Binarys.
Everything just works and I'll never go back to windows.

I had my windows tower for 3 years and it built it from the ground up using the besthardware - I did alot of matience - kept the inside dust free, made sure heat was never an issue and it treated me just fine.

I would crash probably once a month - but compared to windows 98 / ME / 2000 where I had to format every 6 months, I was able to run XP for a full year without formatting.

Last night though we tried to hook my simple lexmark printer up to my roommates dell laptop so he could print something and it crashed the computer everytime the USB was plugged in.

So I was like fine I'll just do a printer share from my iMac - when ever windows would try to connect to the printer - yup it would crash!

This is not acceptable and I'll never go back.

I've resorted to buying 8 shares of apple stock a paycheck hehe :)
 
My iBook G4 crashes all the time (won't wake from sleep). I'd say about 20 percent of the time when I sleep it won't wake up and I have to reboot. It's incredibly annoying.
 
wordmunger said:
My iBook G4 crashes all the time (won't wake from sleep). I'd say about 20 percent of the time when I sleep it won't wake up and I have to reboot. It's incredibly annoying.
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Wow...you shouldn't have to put up with that from a Mac. :( This should be a fixable problem.
 
Used OS X since 10.0 on my iMac G3.

1 kernel panic under 10.0 just before 10.1 was released (August 2001?).

1 kernel panic on this Powerbook a couple of months ago.

2 kernel panics in 5 years or so ain't bad.
 
It's started crashing more recently on me...
once about two months ago, and I don't know why.
then again a week ago when I downloaded a program my mini didn't like.

should I be concerned that my mac's crashed twice in it's lifetime?:D

P.S. It took a reboot to recover from it too...and I find that TOTALLY UNACEPTABLE!! I DEMAND that apple make OS X require a full reinstall after a kernal crash, to bring it up to par with XP's BSOD!
 
1 crash in 3 years.

When Im on mac if something goes wrong its like ''whoa, what the hell just happened'' because its really out of the norm.

Whe i was using XP regularly a year or so back - app crashes 5 times a day - system crashes... 3/4 a week - but i spent AGES cleaning the os and trying to keep everything stble - on mac you can abuse it a little and it runs seamlessly - although i dont abuse mine :)

When you add up -

Restarting to fix something
defragging
crashes
app crashes
freezing
system cleaning
fixing things that unexplainably go wrong
finding which port the us cable came out of (because you need to have them all in the same usb everytime for it to work)
running norton

tiime taken for your system doesnt really let you get that much done
 
1 Kernel Panic in the 9 months or so I've had my PowerBook.

Let's put it this way, the other day my brother was on our Dell, which had been running fine for a few days without any problems, and he upgraded to WMP10 and got a blue screen error, followed by an auto restart. Both of which took place while he was speaking to me and neither were uncommon enough for him to even pause during his speech.

I had to laugh because such poor behavior from my Mac would send me into such a fit of rage I'd be lucky to remember what I was even talking about to begin with.

*** Just for the record, I do not maintain the Dell in any way, whereas I take good care of my own PC (custom-built AMD) and have never had any crashes (BSOD or otherwise) in the 3 years I've had it. :)
 
For me, the fundamental difference between X and XP for application crashes is not the amount it happens (which depends more on the individual app) but how the system copes with the aftermath.

X: Press Alt-Apple-Escape, choose the App, Force Quit. Everything is hunky-dory. :)

XP: Press Ctrl-Alt-Del, choose the App, End Task. End Task. END TASK... wait ... "program is not responding" - End Task. End Task. End Task. END TASK. END F***ING TASK! Reboot computer. :(

Of course, when you *do* get end task to work the whole system feels flakey until you reboot. On OSX I run high-end audio production rigs with important clients sitting next to me and I am confident enough not to bother rebooting after an application crash.
 
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