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What will the next version of OS X be called?

  • OS X California

    Votes: 24 18.3%
  • macOS 12

    Votes: 30 22.9%
  • macOS California

    Votes: 14 10.7%
  • macOS 12 California

    Votes: 7 5.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 56 42.7%

  • Total voters
    131
Nobody says that it will be called “10.12”, what they mean is that the next version will just be another major version of OS X.

Right, why wouldn't it be?

It certainly won’t be called OS X California, but OS X [name relating to California], with the version number 10.12.

Yes, that's what I said in the first post. "[Substitue 'California' for your preferred landmark branding.]"
 
Everything starts on OS X and slowly migrates into iOS, watchOS, tvOS.

That hasn't happened for years. iOS has got all the primary developments first for a while.

Calling it macOS would be a departure from this fundamental design and would signify that the core operating systems are no longer interconnected/interrelated.

having all the OSs be named similarly would signify that the core operating systems are no longer interconnected/interrelated?
 
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having all the OSs be named similarly would signify that the core operating systems are no longer interconnected/interrelated?

Correct. This is why Apple stopped calling it "Mac OS X" and switched to "OS X" - to signify that OS X is the core platform upon which everything else is built. Saying that iOS is built on "macOS" makes no sense.
 
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This is why Apple stopped calling it "Mac OS X" and switched to "OS X" - to signify that OS X is the core platform upon which everything else is built.

This is absolute nonsense. Do you have any source to back this up?
 
Maybe we'll finally get big dog names. OS X Great Dane, OS X St. Bernard. Forget numbers
 
iOS makes sense as long as devices running it are called iPad, iPhone and iPod, so I don't see why that would change. The point about OS X becoming macOS is cool though. Someone said Alcatraz would be the name and I love that. macOS Alcatraz. The most secure operating system on Earth!
They used to call "OS X" Mac OS X". They dropped Mac from the name a few versions ago. For example Snow Leopards ful name was Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard.
 
Back to the "X", I feel like, for people old enough to have used OS9/heard about OS9, or people who automatically understand Roman numerals, it was pretty meaningful. However, now that we're at 10.11, it's become quite meaningless.

Side note: How do you say your version of OS X if the release name isn't going to get your point across? "Oh-Es-Ex Ten-Point-Eleven"? "Oh-Es Ten-Point-Eleven"? I've never found an answer.
 
Back to the "X", I feel like, for people old enough to have used OS9/heard about OS9, or people who automatically understand Roman numerals, it was pretty meaningful. However, now that we're at 10.11, it's become quite meaningless.

Side note: How do you say your version of OS X if the release name isn't going to get your point across? "Oh-Es-Ex Ten-Point-Eleven"? "Oh-Es Ten-Point-Eleven"? I've never found an answer.
The name is largely irelevent as long as they don't muck with the experience.
 
Back to the "X", I feel like, for people old enough to have used OS9/heard about OS9, or people who automatically understand Roman numerals, it was pretty meaningful. However, now that we're at 10.11, it's become quite meaningless.

Side note: How do you say your version of OS X if the release name isn't going to get your point across? "Oh-Es-Ex Ten-Point-Eleven"? "Oh-Es Ten-Point-Eleven"? I've never found an answer.

It's "Oh-Es Ten" version 10.11, The "X" is the Roman numeral "10", not the letter "Ex".
 
Back to the "X", I feel like, for people old enough to have used OS9/heard about OS9, or people who automatically understand Roman numerals, it was pretty meaningful. However, now that we're at 10.11, it's become quite meaningless.

Side note: How do you say your version of OS X if the release name isn't going to get your point across? "Oh-Es-Ex Ten-Point-Eleven"? "Oh-Es Ten-Point-Eleven"? I've never found an answer.

The X does not just stand for the Roman numeral, but also refers to NeXT as well as UNIX. OS X and Mac OS X are brand names, just as each version of Mac OS was before. That number is not really related to the internal version number, even though they can coincide. Besides, 10.11 makes clear that the 11 is a minor version to the major version 10. It has not become meaningless.
 
The functional core of 10.11 is still the same as the core of 10.0, so the OS X moniker is still appropriate. The OS and its services is still organised around Objective-C and its dynamic facilities. There might be a paradigm switch coming up as Swift is gaining maturity and features, but any significant change is still way off.
 
Whatever happens, Apple is going to cram more iOS features down our throats and limit even more options. It's been happenining for years but nobody wants to admit it. Eventually OS X and iOS will merge.
 
Eventually OS X and iOS will merge.
Nope, not going to happen. Even though they keep making OS X more tablety, they can't take the final step because iOS is really bad for programming/content creation. It's a consumer OS, and Apple needs to create content. Show me Xcode for iOS 10, and there might be a case for merger, but there's not even rumors of rumors of that coming out. Microsoft's the same way. They'd probably like to ditch the less profitable desktops and and portable computers in favor of consumer-popular pods and pads and tablets and surfaces, but they can't, unless they're willing to shut down or severely limit the creation of new Apps. If either Apple or Microsoft let their computer OS get too tabletized, then content creating folks'll actually start moving towards Linux, where you can still kind of get down to the metal, and that would hurt either company badly.
 
Within ten years OS X and iOS will have converged and Apple will drop one for the other and rename the latter into something new (maybe :apple:OS :D).

Ten years? I think this will be the big surprise for this year. That explains the rush to put more ram in all iOS devices.
Because who really cares about more ram in iOS devices, maybe 0,02%? (And they all complain here about that )
 
Ten years? I think this will be the big surprise for this year. That explains the rush to put more ram in all iOS devices.
Because who really cares about more ram in iOS devices, maybe 0,02%? (And they all complain here about that )

The RAM in the iPhone 6s/ iPad Air 2 is the best thing that happened for a while. The OS just works better/smoother and there are less app reloads, safari refreshes etc.

You're right that people don't care about the RAM. They care about a stable and fast system. iOS needs more than 1GB. Especially when you browse the web or switch apps.
 
Back to the "X", I feel like, for people old enough to have used OS9/heard about OS9, or people who automatically understand Roman numerals, it was pretty meaningful. However, now that we're at 10.11, it's become quite meaningless.

Side note: How do you say your version of OS X if the release name isn't going to get your point across? "Oh-Es-Ex Ten-Point-Eleven"? "Oh-Es Ten-Point-Eleven"? I've never found an answer.

It's never been "Oh-Ess-Ex"... it's always been "Oh-Ess-Ten".

Originally is was called "System" as in "System 5", "System 6", etc... then "Mac OS" as in "Mac OS 8", "Mac OS 9" then "Mac OS X" and finally "OS X"... since Apple moved away from "Mac OS" several years ago, I don't see them going back.

And there will be no merging/confluence of OS X and iOS. They are totally different, yet complimentary operating systems for different types of devices.
 
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Just throwing in some more or less relevant random facts and thoughts:

1. OS X and iOS are already the same OS — I'd estimate that around 80% to their codebase is identical (and always have been btw). The only real difference is the user-facing UI framework.

2. OS X and iOS are converging on the development side of things - AND THAT IS A GOOD THING. It means that developers can more easily and quickly write apps that have version for OS X, iOS, tvOS etc.

3. Apple has always been using iOS to experiment with suff they wanted to add in OS X. A mobile OS is more volatile, users upgrade more often and its easier to make breaking changes. Examples: Core Animation, Metal, Storyboard API, HiDPI rendering etc. Again, this is a GOOD thing, because it means we get constant innovation that has already been tested to some degree. This is not a sign that Apple is neglecting Macs.

4. People have been doomsaying along the lines of 'Apple is dumbing down OS X and next OS X will be just like iOS' for years. This is getting boring. OS X and iOS are evolving together, but they both keep their unique flavour and characteristics. The talk about merging OS X and iOS at this point is simply ridiculous and shows that people saying these things have 0 experience with developing apps on Apple ecosystem.

5. Apple is adding and removing new features all the time. If the direction of the development does not match your personal preferences or needs (e.g. if you are a person modding your laptop, running software RAID or hacking your OS) — this does not mean that the system has been dumbed down. It simply means that Apple's vision does not match your own. If you can't accept this simple truth, well... then I don't have anything to say either. Funny fact: you can still do anything with your machine that you want to (at least on the software side) — Apple gives you the tools and documentation to do so. They simply state that they are not interested in offering prominent support for marginal use cases (like modded laptops, software RAID or hacking the OS).
 
They used to call "OS X" Mac OS X". They dropped Mac from the name a few versions ago. For example Snow Leopards ful name was Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard.
Yeah, it began halfassedly with Lion (i.e., the App Store and Apple website called it "OS X Lion", but the installer and About dialogs within Lion called it "Mac OS X Lion"), but went full force with Mountain Lion ("OS X Mountain Lion") across the board.

Snow Leopard was the last fully-fledged "Mac OS X" version. Frankly, I miss the "Mac OS X" moniker. I'm not sure why, it just feels more classic Macintosh/Apple to me.
 
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