OS X Mavericks Now Available Free on Mac App Store

[parish]

Well, every OS X update so far has reduced in size. Mavericks is larger than the previous two, but it's also changed how it does swap and sleep images. I have 16GB, and /var/vm/sleepimage is only 8GB. I used it only hours ago, so I know it's been used in Mavericks.

Likewise, it only allocates a safe amount of swap based on what it thinks the current apps might use in a worst case scenario. That has been in for several versions, though. I have yet to use swap, and the two swap files are 64MB and 1GB.

Ah, interesting. So does it pre-allocate swap then? I use iStat Menus and since u/g to Mavericks it hasn't reported more than 1GB of swap used despite me having used it heavily (e.g. Aperture). under ML it regularly reported anything up to 8GB.

BTW, the pre-Mavericks amount of free space included the reported swap usage as shown by iStat.

 

[D.T.]

I've been using Mavericks for quite a while, and both Xcode and Parallels are fine. No issues that I've seen running a Win8 VM, and Xcode is one of my main tools. The current Xcode version is of course Mavericks compatible. It would be silly not to ensure compatibility with the latest, since Apple most likely requires every in-house system to run Mavericks from now on

Thank you sir! I was pretty confident I'd have no issues with XC (er, other than the "regular" issues ), but I'm supporting a couple of projects in .NET, so I need my Winders© 7 VM pretty frequently.

 

[gnurf]

Ah, interesting. So does it pre-allocate swap then? I use iStat Menus and since u/g to Mavericks it hasn't reported more than 1GB of swap used despite me having used it heavily (e.g. Aperture). under ML it regularly reported anything up to 8GB.

I actually suspect the second swap file could be a leftover. I'm going to remove it during a reboot and see what happens

Since I have 16GB and haven't used Ableton Live much because of other work, I haven't pushed the system enough to start using swap/memory compression. Since installing Mavericks I've had a constant 1.5MB showing as compressed, though

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Thank you sir! I was pretty confident I'd have no issues with XC (er, other than the "regular" issues ), but I'm supporting a couple of projects in .NET, so I need my Winders© 7 VM pretty frequently.

I think even some regular Xcode issues are gone. But most of mine related to legacy projects (Subversion - I'm using Git), and that's one of the few big fixes listed, I think.

My Win8 VM is pretty much there only because MSDN gave me 10 licences. My gaming PC still rocks Win7

 

[doctorossi]

I started to install Mavericks on my 2009 MacBook. The install failed. Restarting repeatedly brings up the Mavericks installer. It says the disk is damaged. I restarted from the system DVD to repair, and the repair failed. I backed up and reformatted the hard drive, and the system reinstall failed.

I'm guessing that this means I have a bad hard drive, but I never saw any problems before. Now I have a dead Mac.

Hmm... very same issue for me on my MacBook Pro which, IIRC, is also a 2009.

Anyone else encountering this problem (and, hopefully, a solution)?

 

[MagnusVonMagnum]

Apple's comparison with Windows is a little bit off. The Windows OS is largely platform independent and can be installed on any old piece of junk computer you have lying around, whereas buying Mac hardware is mandatory if you want to use their OS. If Microsoft had such tight control over hardware/software integration as Apple does then Windows might also be free.

Thankfully, this is not true at all. You can quite easily build a Hackintosh with any 64-bit hardware that has drivers available for it (i.e. most Intel machines out there, especially those with Intel graphics, although many 3rd party GPUs will work as well). I turned my HP Netbook into a Snow Leopard compatible Hackintosh even. If it weren't for the fact it uses a 32-bit Atom processor (32-bit is no longer supported beyond Snow Leopard), I could have most likely be running Mavericks on it right now as well.

OSX is really just as generic as Windows. It simply has less drivers available for a wider variety of hardware and Apple attempts to block you from installing it on 3rd party hardware (easily bypassed) since they want to make money from you buying THEIR hardware.

 

[patent10021]

Of course since this is an upgrade we can't do a clean install right? Can we? It's time for me to do a cleaning. I don't want to simply upgrade.

 

[MagnusVonMagnum]

Of course since this is an upgrade we can't do a clean install right? Can we? It's time for me to do a cleaning. I don't want to simply upgrade.

Clean installs are for Windows machines. Unix based systems don't need no stinking clean install.

In any case, I would think you could do a clean install from the Internet restore option (assuming you don't use RAID drives for your main drive like I do). Or you could get one of those utilities that lets you make an install disc (whether DVD or USB) from the download. In other words, you might need to an install upgrade first (or at least "purchase" it from the App store) and then create the install disk from it and then wipe/install.

 

[patent10021]

Clean installs are for Windows machines. Unix based systems don't need no stinking clean install.

In any case, I would think you could do a clean install from the Internet restore option (assuming you don't use RAID drives for your main drive like I do). Or you could get one of those utilities that lets you make an install disc (whether DVD or USB) from the download. In other words, you might need to an install upgrade first (or at least "purchase" it from the App store) and then create the install disk from it and then wipe/install.

Quotes = famous site in Sweden

 

[Yamcha]

Just noticed that when you install an app It sparkles in Launchpad

 

[Taz Mangus]

Of course since this is an upgrade we can't do a clean install right? Can we? It's time for me to do a cleaning. I don't want to simply upgrade.

If you want to do a clean install, create a bootable 10.9 install disk. If you look through this thread someone posted a link on how to do it. Boot to the 10.9 install disk, erase the HD you want to install (run Disk Utility from 10.9 install) and then proceed with the 10.9 install. Before doing any of that make sure you have a backup of your system.

A clean install is not mandatory but can resolve issues caused by incompatible software. It also is a good way to clean out old stuff that you no longer need. I like doing clean installs of major OS X releases.

 

[MagnusVonMagnum]

Has anyone noticed that you can no longer drag a window to another desktop by holding it against either side "wall" of the screen like you could in Mountain Lion and even Snow Leopard? The only way I can find to move an app to another desktop is through mission control now. Is there a way to restore the previous behavior option?

 

[justperry]

Has anyone noticed that you can no longer drag a window to another desktop by holding it against either side "wall" of the screen like you could in Mountain Lion and even Snow Leopard? The only way I can find to move an app to another desktop is through mission control now. Is there a way to restore the previous behavior option?

No problem here but I also have Totalspaces installed, I just quit Totalspaces to see if it works without and it still works.

 

[fredoviola]

Took about 7 hours, but...

...seems worth it. My 2009 MBP actually looks different, the color looks a little richer, is that possible? Or is that just happy brain?

 

[patent10021]

If you want to do a clean install, create a bootable 10.9 install disk. If you look through this thread someone posted a link on how to do it. Boot to the 10.9 install disk, erase the HD you want to install (run Disk Utility from 10.9 install) and then proceed with the 10.9 install. Before doing any of that make sure you have a backup of your system.

A clean install is not mandatory but can resolve issues caused by incompatible software. It also is a good way to clean out old stuff that you no longer need. I like doing clean installs of major OS X releases.

Yeah, I have USB drives of 10.8 and 10.9 just for those reasons you said. Clean installs not needed but definitely wanted.

 

[allanfries]

Mac App Store login issue.

So, since I downloaded and installed Mavericks on launch day, I've been having login issues with the downloads & updates on the Mac App Store. It updated iTunes 11.1.2 no problem, which I ran soon after the new OS was installed, but not the other 3 app updates, or any other App I wanted to download. Sign in accepts my apple ID, (which works on everything else) but once sent, the apple gear pops up and keeps spinning for as long as you let it. 2 hrs in one instance. Wondering if this is this an isolated problem, some glitch or bug? Or are the servers over worked with everyone downloading. I installed 10.9 over a fully updated 10.6.8 on a mid '09 MacBook pro. The upgrade went smooth, and Mavericks is working well. Everything runs quicker, which is awesome. This is a great upgrade, aside from not being able to download anything from the app store. Will keep trying though.
Anyone else having this problem?

 

[ziggie216]

Well, it's safe to assume that Apple is not giving this update away for free because of the goodness of their hearts. There are two reasons for the free upgrade:

1. Simply because Microsoft gave away the 8.1 upgrade for free to existing 8.0 customers.

2. To lock-in the customers even deeper into all those fancy Apple cloud services. (Exactly what Microsoft also did with the 'free' 8.1 upgrade.)

When a corporation gives away something "for free", you can bet that there are ulterior motives involved.

I wouldnt even call 8.1 an upgrade, it's more of an update due to their screw ups. If MS was to offer Windows 9 for free (good freaking luck with that), then you can go compare the two companies.

 

[tigress666]

Have anyone tried this on their 2007 machine yet? By upgrading from Snow Leopard to Mavericks? Will give it a try when I have a time.

Wait, can it run on the 2007 13" MB(edited cause I originally put MBP, it's only an MB)? Cause I could have sworn either Mountain Lion or Lion they stopped supporting my old MB period (I have a newer one which is what I use but the old one is still around). Be interesting if they started supporting it again.

 

[toke lahti]

Do you realise that Mavericks so far has been the best reviewed OS release ever? The App Store rating is 5/5 for now, and I haven't seen much whining in the forums so far either.

How much you can put weight on some people opinion about operating system, which they have used maybe few hours or less?

1. Apple doesn't care about Microsoft giving away a much needed bug fix release for Windows 8. Mavericks is free compared to buying and installing Windows 8, or buying and installing any future Windows version.

These are very different companies. The other makes money by selling OSes and other by selling computers and gives OS for free. The other difference is that if you have enough powerful computer, which is a decade old, you can install Windows to it. But you can install latest OS from Apple to only 6 year old mac or newer.

Does it have a Core Duo processor (that's the model before Core 2 Duo)? They haven't supported 10.7 or 10.8 either.

Only the original 2006 macbook was not CD2. Next 4 models are CD2 and supported by 10.7. Last 5 models were supported by 10.8.

 

[Ann P]

...seems worth it. My 2009 MBP actually looks different, the color looks a little richer, is that possible? Or is that just happy brain?

Could be. Your color profile was probably changed to the one that looks darker/richer. It's noticeably different if that.

 

[barnettgs]

Wait, can it run on the 2007 13" MB(edited cause I originally put MBP, it's only an MB)? Cause I could have sworn either Mountain Lion or Lion they stopped supporting my old MB period (I have a newer one which is what I use but the old one is still around). Be interesting if they started supporting it again.

Only available to Macbook Pro Mid/Late 2007, Aluminum Macbook from Late 2008.

However Mountain Lion did not support Macbook Pro 2007 but this newer version does so I am curious to know about how it runs on older hardware.

SL runs well but it is getting a bit long in the tooth with the support of applications like oovoo and also finder maybe a bit too basic?

 

[hyhybt]

I wouldnt even call 8.1 an upgrade, it's more of an update due to their screw ups. If MS was to offer Windows 9 for free (good freaking luck with that), then you can go compare the two companies.

For some reason I wish they'd explain, some people like to pretend that major updates to OS X are really minor ones simply because Apple doesn't change the 10 at the beginning of the version number.

 

[3282868]

I'd like to use SMARTreporter, so that I can handle data loss before it happens. A lot less tinkering that way. And it's very basic to use, just install and forget, it will send you an e-mail when something is going to get wrong.

I guess that Apple keeps very low profile about S.M.A.R.T, since you can't use it with most external drives and it's economical for Apple that people don't know that there's something a bit wrong with your mac's internal storage within warranty / applecare.

Thanks, I'll check it out. I've tried programs from "Data Rescue 3", "Drive Genius", "Disk Doctor", "Onyx" - you name it. More often they may make matters worse, I've stayed with "Data Rescue" over the years.

Thanks for the tip!

 

[KattDaDon]

can you? Not working for me. I have a family pack licence for iWork

I know i'm mad late but yeah you can because I updated to latest iLife & iWork suite for sister's Macbook Pro from 2010 and she had both suites retail CD and went to the App Store and click on updates and bam... Showed up and updated fine

 

[hyhybt]

Problem

First thing I noticed isn't a big deal: the old version of Airport Utility has a big "no" symbol on it, meaning if anything goes wrong I cannot fix my WDS network. (Any good reason they don't allow stringing three in a row with the current kind? As in, where the outside connection is *not* at the center?)

The much more serious, albeit temporary, problem is this: Mail deleted all my drafts. That probably doesn't mean much to most people, but I had some stuff in there that's worth restoring my previous system to recover. Why on Earth would they do such a thing? I checked Library; it's still saved even RSS stuff, which hasn't been accessible since I think Snow Leopard, yet it deletes my Drafts folder!?

 

[supolka]

Performance on Macbook pro 17" mid 2007

Did anybody installed Mavericks on Macbook pro 17" mid 2007? What performance is in comparison with Lion? Thank you