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OS X Mavericks vs OS X Yosemite Performance
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They are sloppy even with dGPU... It's the lack of optimisation due to lazy Apple programmers...
1. Submit a feedback to Apple at www.apple.com/feedback
2. Spam Tim's email at tcook@apple.com
3. Downgrade to Mavericks
Welcome to your worst nightmare...!
If anyone has further denial/confirmation, it would be greatly appreciated.
I have a friend I help with her computer - I'll likely wait for the .1 to help her upgrade, but I'm hoping it's a more pleasant experience.
She's not been happy with the responsiveness of Mavericks, so I'm hoping Yosemite is an upgrade for her. I thought both Lions were regarded poorly - her machine is too new to allow for Snow Leopard, the last OS I found acceptable on Macs with mechanical drives.
Thanks for any feedback.
I have a friend I help with her computer - I'll likely wait for the .1 to help her upgrade, but I'm hoping it's a more pleasant experience.
She's not been happy with the responsiveness of Mavericks, so I'm hoping Yosemite is an upgrade for her. I thought both Lions were regarded poorly - her machine is too new to allow for Snow Leopard, the last OS I found acceptable on Macs with mechanical drives.
Thanks for any feedback.
Late-2010 MacBook Air (1.4 Ghz" Core 2 Duo/2 GB RAM/64 GB SSD) here. And I've only got a little over 15 GB free left, to boot.
All in all, the UI is responsive and snappy. It's no speed demon (as if it ever was), but I haven't seen any major performance issues or significant sluggishness. I think the OS is a tad slower than it was over Mavericks (right now one of the best versions of OS X that I've used, next to Snow Leopard), but it could just be confirmation bias after reading John Siracusa's review of Yosemite.
I haven't tested it yet, but I'd wager that gaming performance might take a small-to-moderate hit due to some of the extra under-the-hood processes that are running Yosemite vs. Mavericks.
It'd be nice to know what hardware's she running on, as well as if she's working with a clean install vs. an updated install. If she updated a system full of old, out-of-date system add-ons, or set up to run a ton of background apps on startup, then that's likely the reason why Mavericks was so slow for her.
All in all, the UI is responsive and snappy. It's no speed demon (as if it ever was), but I haven't seen any major performance issues or significant sluggishness. I think the OS is a tad slower than it was over Mavericks (right now one of the best versions of OS X that I've used, next to Snow Leopard), but it could just be confirmation bias after reading John Siracusa's review of Yosemite.
I haven't tested it yet, but I'd wager that gaming performance might take a small-to-moderate hit due to some of the extra under-the-hood processes that are running Yosemite vs. Mavericks.
It'd be nice to know what hardware's she running on, as well as if she's working with a clean install vs. an updated install. If she updated a system full of old, out-of-date system add-ons, or set up to run a ton of background apps on startup, then that's likely the reason why Mavericks was so slow for her.
My early 2011 powering an external monitor has become clunky at times.
It's not horrible, but it's noticeable: Opening new Finders has a stuttery effect...Navigating around in Google Maps Street View seems to chug...I had a near meltdown in iMovie 10 earlier today just because I had Chrome open, which has never been a problem.
i7 2ghz Quad core
8GB Ram
SSD
AMD Radeon 6490M 256MB
came here to give my 2 cents we're happy campers on 10.10 after having a *horrid* experience with 10.9. it was so bad, we wanted to go back to Snow Leopard which I agree was an excellent tune up.
While our experience may not match most of you sharing, the bump from 10.9 to 10.10 feels a lot like the bump from Leopard to Snow Leopard.
iMac early-2008 4GB. we are actually deferring a SSD upgrade its such a marked improvement!
While our experience may not match most of you sharing, the bump from 10.9 to 10.10 feels a lot like the bump from Leopard to Snow Leopard.
iMac early-2008 4GB. we are actually deferring a SSD upgrade its such a marked improvement!
Performance-wise yes EXCEPT Finder... Since Mavericks and Yosemite, Finder is slow as HELL... Another problem of Mavericks is the lousy and resource-hungry UI and choppy animations... These are the areas Apple needs to address before I can call Yosemite a worthy Snow Leopard successor...
They are sloppy even with dGPU... It's the lack of optimisation due to lazy Apple programmers...
1. Submit a feedback to Apple at www.apple.com/feedback
2. Spam Tim's email at tcook@apple.com
3. Downgrade to Mavericks
Welcome to your worst nightmare...!
This (especially emphasized). It'll take less than 5 minutes. Just let Apple know.
My machine is the late '13 rMBP, 16GB RAM, bumped up i5 processor. Experiencing general UI sloppiness: Mission control swipe up, swipe to change desktops, minimizing and maximizing.
Things I've tried:
- Disk Utility: Verify and verify permissions are OK
- FileVault: Is on and not stuck
- No excessive RAM/CPU/Energy usage in Activity Monitor
you should look into having a larger storage drive installed in your machine. It'll speed it up too. or you could go with an external hard drive. But no one should go around with that little space
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do not defer on the ssd upgrade!
I installed it on my MacBook Pro Early 2008 (5400rmp drive, 6GB RAM), and I can't find much difference with Mavericks. In some cases, I would say that the UI is slicker than the older one. Starting from power off is about 70 seconds. Going to sleep might be slightly longer than Mavericks.
To be sure of working in the best conditions, you should update all applications before running the installer, clean the drive with something like Cocktail or Onyx, and, after installing the new OS, zap the P-RAM by restarting with Cmd-Opt-P-R kept pressed (until you hear the second rebook sound).
There are still a lot of rough corners, the blue icons my hurt your eyes, the new crayons in the color picker are an hymn to bad design, but the new look fits a lot better with my MBP design.
Paolo
To be sure of working in the best conditions, you should update all applications before running the installer, clean the drive with something like Cocktail or Onyx, and, after installing the new OS, zap the P-RAM by restarting with Cmd-Opt-P-R kept pressed (until you hear the second rebook sound).
There are still a lot of rough corners, the blue icons my hurt your eyes, the new crayons in the color picker are an hymn to bad design, but the new look fits a lot better with my MBP design.
Paolo
Odd. My experiences in Yosemite has been noticeably faster and smoother than Mavericks, and this is on a non-retina 2011 MBP. With Mavericks, my computer was sluggish, slow, and felt like a truck. I'm not sure why the experience is so varied.
Ive got two Hackintosh's (Haswell i5 and a Sandy Bridge i3) as well as a 2012 Macbook Pro.
The biggest thing I've found is the startup time. In Mavericks it seemed like it was only a few seconds when the apple logo popped up to when I could see the desktop. (all 3 are on various SSD's)
With Yosemite there is a definite loss of speed on startup. It may be with how Yosemite has changed the startup sequence, but it's noticeable. As it is, it's not huge. I'm hoping 10.11 follows the same plan for iOS 9 and focuses on stability and performance over new features.
The biggest thing I've found is the startup time. In Mavericks it seemed like it was only a few seconds when the apple logo popped up to when I could see the desktop. (all 3 are on various SSD's)
With Yosemite there is a definite loss of speed on startup. It may be with how Yosemite has changed the startup sequence, but it's noticeable. As it is, it's not huge. I'm hoping 10.11 follows the same plan for iOS 9 and focuses on stability and performance over new features.
Yosemite starts up slower for me, but overall UI animations seem smoother and I've noticed an slight increase in CPU performance (through the use of Benchmarking) and a greater difference in GPU performance (through both games and benchmarks).
My experience with Yosemite has been great. The system seems to run smoother and be more responsive than it did when 10.9.5 was installed. Safari definitely renders faster with Yosemite then it did under Mavericks. No sluggish UI, or issues with WiFi. Everyone in my household, who uses Yosemite, really likes it, more so then Mavericks.