They need to or you want them to ?
Apple doesn't need to do anything except sustain growth and profits for their shareholders.
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OS X Mountain Lion Officially Drops Support for Some Older 64-Bit Macs
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They need to or you want them to ?
Apple doesn't need to do anything except sustain growth and profits for their shareholders.
In that case then, I would go out on a limb and here and claim their would be a good court case in here? I mean if a virus for OSX was launched, and Apple stated the only way you could avoid getting it was to buy a totally new computer or the latest OSX, that to me would not stand up in court.
Is it me, or has Apple REALLY become totally arrogant of it's customers lately? It REALLY lives up to that famous advert it proclaimed to never be.
Granted, I wasn't planning for my Mac Pro 1,1 to be my first Mac to try ML out on, but I already have Lion on it, and I'm hoping that ML fixes some of the bugs in Lion. I'm actually excited about some of the ML features, like AirPlay mirroring and all the syncing between iOS like with Messages, Notes, etc. So in the off-chance that Apple decided to support ML on the 1,1 (which I wasn't really expecting based on previous reports), I was planning to switch to it if I found it to be reasonably stable. I'm still planning to do this if the hacks work well enough.
I don't own and use a Mac Pro 1,1 because I'm a slow adopter, but rather because the Mac Pro 1,1 is still very capable and I don't yet need an upgrade because of hardware performance, and I don't want to spend the money for an upgrade I don't need. I'm happy to spend $20 on a OS upgrade, however, if it gives me new capabilities.
I might not be the typical old-machine owner, however. I know people still running Tiger, and I'm like "come on, at least upgrade to Leopard and get a Time Machine backup going"...
One of the dumbest statements I've ever heard on this site. Are you a sales rep for Apple or something?
This decision was made for one reason only... to get people like me (who are using old-ass macs that run perfectly fine on the latest OS) to buy new hardware.
This just makes it that much harder to justify the Apple tax.
You must be lazy IT. I have tons of mixed environments. Win XP-7, Linux, Mac OS 10.5-10.8. You see, the thing is, I know how to manage such things. As I see it everyone should stay on 10.6 or update to 10.8. 10.7 is the Vista moment.
I see what you've changed here
Shhh..
I felt the need to not take that shot. Ubuntu is pretty sweet though, I built a win7 machine and find the OS .....average....
Like the old arse XBOX 360.
...a Hackintosh. OK, if you're going to EOL my MacPro1,1 then thanks, believe I will!
Assuming Apple does not purposely cripple the installation process to preclude the old machines (which we know they will
), would an older Mac Pro not on the approved list work if it had a more modern graphics card? I mean, if they have a 64-bit KEXT for the newer card, would that not be the one loaded at boot time?A timely decision - that is, if Apple's going for irony:
https://www.macrumors.com/2012/07/07/apple-pulls-products-from-environmental-epeat-registry/
https://www.macrumors.com/2012/07/07/apple-pulls-products-from-environmental-epeat-registry/
From an objective thinking standpoint, this is a good thing going forward. Unless I am mistaken, all the required hardware supports an opencl gpu. All hardware also requires at least a dual core 64-bit intel CPU. Thus the transition has been completed. It began with 32-bit intel CPUs and in one case (mac mini) was single core. Rosetta allowed great BC with PPC apps until Lion, and Apple has been talking about opencl for years. Lion dropped Rosetta and some 32-bit early macs, now the rest have been dropped. Compatibility still extends to about 5 years for many models and 3 years in lesser cases. This is normal and it's not like the 'incompatible' ones will stop working. Even a fully updated intel mac running snow leopard is modern and can run most apps. A PPC mac running leopard is missing out on the latest apps, but considering what it can run given its age that's not bad.
Going forward the OS now has a basis that will allow it to excel compared to its competitors. The transition period was a smooth six years. I dont't see any problem except for the rare case of specific mac pros
Going forward the OS now has a basis that will allow it to excel compared to its competitors. The transition period was a smooth six years. I dont't see any problem except for the rare case of specific mac pros
Honestly, it's not like your computer is going to stop working once Mountain Lion comes out. Even though my machines are supported, I'm debating if I'll even upgrade at all.
I don't blame them for cutting support but I do blame them for putting crappy Intel graphics chips in the laptops in the first place for the lower end Mac mini and Macbooks.
I don't blame them for cutting support but I do blame them for putting crappy Intel graphics chips in the laptops in the first place for the lower end Mac mini and Macbooks.
Some people need to stop living in the past.
No one can really expect a company continue to support a product that is five years old now can they?
No one can really expect a company continue to support a product that is five years old now can they?
The MacPros were dropped, not the GPU within them that could be easily upgraded to meet/surpass Mountain Lion's minimum system requirements. Netkas.org has gotten OSX 10.8 working on the 2006 MacPro so Apple is BSing us.
We had a good run 2006 iMac, but your time is coming to a close... if they update the iMac anyway.
Clearly you don't work in a major corporations tech department supporting proprietary hardware / software environments, that also have strict regulations and policies regarding security, software, support and updates.
large corporations take years to migrate OS's. Many of which are still on XP and doing the changeover to 7.
Platform uniformity is a huge deal as it eliminates possible failures do to inconsistencies.
There is a huge reason why many medium and large enterprises are enforcing ITIL change management policies
Wasn't longevity one of the appeals of a Mac?
I get that new version don't support 32-bit, I really do and do not mind. My 2006 imac remains on SL and don't mind that. That machine is 6-years old and I was OK without Lion support. Still a great email/web/music machine!
Whatever is gained now will be their loss later... Us, Mac users, are a loyal bunch, but now a bit of that loyalty is lost.
At the next upgrade, I won't go for the top of the line because it is a moot point now. Whatever they gain now will be lost later...
And I think EFI32 is just an excuse. After all, isn't OS the "world's most advanced desktop operating system" (tm)? Should be able to handle that...
I get that new version don't support 32-bit, I really do and do not mind. My 2006 imac remains on SL and don't mind that. That machine is 6-years old and I was OK without Lion support. Still a great email/web/music machine!
Whatever is gained now will be their loss later... Us, Mac users, are a loyal bunch, but now a bit of that loyalty is lost.
At the next upgrade, I won't go for the top of the line because it is a moot point now. Whatever they gain now will be lost later...
And I think EFI32 is just an excuse. After all, isn't OS the "world's most advanced desktop operating system" (tm)? Should be able to handle that...
That's exactly what I wanted to say from my heart, but I was afraid of getting cursed here by the fans.
I've used Ubuntu for 4 years before I bought my first Mac last year. I've seen how it evolved and I always supported the guys at Canonical. These developers have done something amazing in the last few years with this OS. Of course it cannot compete with OS X or even with Windows on some areas (especially on areas that require a lot of money), and they surely "borrowed" some ideas from OS X, but basically it's by far my most favourite and beloved operating system after OS X, and maaaan, it's free!
I'm trying to "free" every suffering person from Windows and convince them to use Ubuntu, and I already have plenty of happy "switchers" behind me. Not to mention that even a stone can run the latest version of Ubuntu (12.04), which is a LTS (long term support) distribution that means it's getting security updates for 3 years.
Unfortunately it still lacks a lot of professional programs that many people could consider necessarily (which is not Ubuntu's or Linux's fault of course), but for the average user it's already NIRVANA compared to Windows.
They can if their device is still capable. My 2006 iMac hasn't run the best since the upgrade to Lion (Tiger, Leopard, and Snow all ran fantastic) and upgrade to the latest iPhoto. Gave my system all sorts of problems, so I understand why they would drop support for it. Someone who purchased a Mac Pro probably invested for the future and would expect a 2007 Mac Pro (unsupported) to be on par with a 2007 iMac (supported).
Wrong. And the Mac's are not under same umbrella. They have their own policies. I guarantee you'd know my company.
Says the person that list a Hackentosh on their profile. You don't even play by the rules.
Apple will lose customers if they see this as Apple's #1 priority (or any priority higher than customer support).