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For those that may choose not to install Rosetta and then try to install Office 2008, be warned...the installer is NOT a universal binary (at least, with Office 2008 Standard Edition with no SP updates):

You gotta be kidding me :eek:
 
I have a question. Anyone know how big Rosetta is? I am guessing it would be good to install it, just to make sure everything works? And is there any reason not to install Quicktime 7?
 
I have a question. Anyone know how big Rosetta is? I am guessing it would be good to install it, just to make sure everything works?

If you're patient, it would probably be better not to install Rosetta. Modern OSes are quite efficient in allocation of resources, but it is still a good rule of thumb to keep your OS as uncomplicated as possible.

If you don't install it and everything works, then it would be better to keep things that way. If later you discover that a must-have app requires it, go ahead and install it then.
 
If you're patient, it would probably be better not to install Rosetta. Modern OSes are quite efficient in allocation of resources, but it is still a good rule of thumb to keep your OS as uncomplicated as possible.

If you don't install it and everything works, then it would be better to keep things that way. If later you discover that a must-have app requires it, go ahead and install it then.

Oh, so it will be easy to install later? Would older games need it? Like Warcraft 3 and Diablo 2?
 
You gotta be kidding me :eek:

It's weird but I used Pacifist to install and then downloaded the SP1 update and that was universal. I wonder what Microsoft was thinking. I'm sure the installer is a UB by now (my disc shipped when Office 2008 was first released), but just wanted to share my experience in case anyone ran into the same problem.

As for Diablo 2, I'm almost positive the game is only PPC so you will need Rosetta to install and run it, no way around it. Hopefully, Diablo 3 is a UB ;)
 
The earlier the better. I will probably buy it and my friends will want to borrow the install disk.

If you buy and friends borrow..... they are not necessarily your 'friends'. It's only $29 bucks...they should buy themselves.

Neither a borrower nor a lender be;
For loan oft loses both itself and friend,
And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry.
This above all: to thine own self be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man.

William Shakespeare, "Hamlet", Act 1 scene 3
 
So i'm on the newest build of snow... and, from what i've noticed... they removed the other 2 or 3 "SNOW LEOPARD" wallpaper there's only 2 left...
and performance wise, it's good, i've noticed a speed difference but not huge.
from Leopard 10.5.8 it's a big difference.

I'm just wondering if everything *apps* works for the new SL...

I currently do vlogs on youtube. and i edit it with iMovie (Livetype final cut express) and other ilife apps. will they be compatible?
 
If you buy and friends borrow..... they are not necessarily your 'friends'. It's only $29 bucks...they should buy themselves.

Would your friends steal something worth $29 from the Apple store?

That's what's happening if you loan your disc to them - and you are enabling the "virtual theft".

Don't help pirates.
 
If you buy and friends borrow..... they are not necessarily your 'friends'. It's only $29 bucks...they should buy themselves.

There is one instance where it is allowable to borrow a 10.6 install disk. Anyone who bought a Mac on or after June 8, 2009 should be able to apply for a Right to Copy for that computer and save themselves the $10 shipping charge for the DVD.
 
There is one instance where it is allowable to borrow a 10.6 install disk. Anyone who bought multiple qualifying systems on a single invoice a Mac on or after June 8, 2009 should be able to apply for a Right to Copy for that computer and save themselves the $10 shipping charge for the DVD.

Fixed it for you.

"Right to copy" doesn't apply to your friends' computers, or even to two Apples that you bought at different times.

From your link:

Multiple Qualifying Computers on a Single Invoice

If you purchased multiple qualifying systems on a single invoice, you can either (1) purchase a Single-User Upgrade Kit for each qualifying product, at a cost of US$9.95*; or (2) purchase fewer Single-User Upgrade Kits and request the Right to Copy for the remaining qualifying products.
 
Fixed it for you.

"Right to copy" doesn't apply to your friends' computers, or even to two Apples that you bought at different times.

Apple uses the word "systems" there, while in every other instance in the main text on that page, they use "computers" or "Mac." So it's not really clear.

But you don't have to be such a snot about it in any event. If I did in fact make a mistake, it was an honest one.

And anyway, I said one could APPLY for a right to copy, which is certainly true.
 
Apple uses the word "systems" there, while in every other instance in the main text on that page, they use "computers" or "Mac." So it's not really clear.

But "on the same invoice" is pretty clear....


But you don't have to be such a snot about it in any event. If I did in fact make a mistake, it was an honest one.

Please explain how I'm being a "snot". I looked at your link, and pointed out that there are some very strong restrictions imposed by Apple on granting the "right to copy" license.


And anyway, I said one could APPLY for a right to copy, which is certainly true.

And I could apply for a $50B bailout under TARP. I don't meet any of the qualifications, and wouldn't even be considered - but it's certainly true that I could apply.

It's OK, you quickly read the "right to copy" bit - but on closer examination it has nothing to do with letting your friends steal OSX by loaning them your DVD.
 
Did you guys notice anything new in this seed? :confused:

None of the websites are saying anything. The only thing new appears to be the artwork for the installer. I don't think it's worth burning another DVD just for the sake of it. If this is the Gold Master, then it's not worth updating since I'll just reinstall when I buy it.

Is QuickTime more complete? Does it have preferences in the last build? This is just like when they revamped iMovie with version '08. Looking good, but missing essential features. I hope they don't do the same with Quicktime. I seriously miss 3 features that made it "just work": automatic playback of video, automatic playback when going fullscreen and option to increase volume over 100%. Now I am forced to use VLC.

What do you guys thing? Can anyone check this? ;)
 
It's OK, you quickly read the "right to copy" bit - but on closer examination it has nothing to do with letting your friends steal OSX by loaning them your DVD.
Your reading appears to be correct, though the restriction seems to be inordinately over-restrictive. There should be no reason why I would need to have Apple ship me multiple DVDs at $10 apiece if they all qualified for the same upgrade. There is no inherent serial-number control in the installer, so why require me to pay for shipping and plastic that is going right into the trash?

So I would advise that someone in that circumstance apply for a right to copy, since it seems like an utter waste for Apple to deny that application.

I am in no way suggesting that people should pirate software. I just don't understand why Apple would word it such as to imply that they have a problem with sharing one piece of plastic instead of using multiple identical ones. Apparently the "handling" part of the processing costs more than the shipping...?
 
Your reading appears to be correct, though the restriction seems to be inordinately over-restrictive.
...
Apparently the "handling" part of the processing costs more than the shipping...?

Bingo - Apple is a "for profit" organization. They want the $10 per DVD.
 
Looks like Apple removed a lot of the wallpapers from the last build. All the ugly ones like "Graffiti" and "Camo". Oh they sent shivers down my spine. :|

I just noticed that was well. I actually liked Leopard Scratch :(
 
Grand Central Dispatch and OPEN CL .... I think if anyone is really interested in performance.... this is where we should be concentrating. Oh yes 64 can address boat loads of memory. But for Raw performance OPEN CL and GCD are going to revolutionize computing.

For years we have had Multi CPU and GPU computers. Each and every successive operation system never supported MultiCPU on the Desktop very well.... Now lets hope Apple has done it right. But so far I see virtually nothing on OPEN CL and GCD. Lets hope we start seeing something coming from developers once SL is released.
 
For those that wish to run in 64-bit and have 32-bit system pref apps installed (Growl, for instance), be advised. Trying to launch it will result in saying that System Preferences needs to be reopened and will then launch in 32-bit mode. Not an annoyance, but just a heads up. Hopefully this will be resolved once SL ships and developers have a chance to update the code.
 
Another thing I noticed is that with the flip4mac plugin installed without Quicktime 7, I can't open the files. I can preview in Quick Look but that's it.
 
Another thing I noticed is that with the flip4mac plugin installed without Quicktime 7, I can't open the files. I can preview in Quick Look but that's it.

Interesting - are you able to see whether the QuickTime component 32/64bit or is it just 32bit? I wonder because if it is 32bit, the quick look gets around the issue through the IPC mechanism rather than directly linking to the component.
 
Interesting - are you able to see whether the QuickTime component 32/64bit or is it just 32bit? I wonder because if it is 32bit, the quick look gets around the issue through the IPC mechanism rather than directly linking to the component.

No idea. Double-clicking the file to open results in the error shown below. However, if I right-click (control-click) on it to open in Quicktime Player, it opens just fine.

So it's possible there's an issue with the latest public release of the WMV plugin and QuickTime X.
 

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I think the 28th is a high probability.. why??


Today I went to the Apple store at the Annapolis MD mall, It's shrouded in black as they rebuild the store / upgrade it.

Kicker is.. it opens August 28th!

I'll take pics tomorrow. One builder said they were having to work extra hours so they could me a crucial deadline. My guess is to be open for the launch.
 
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