Don't forget COLORS!
I bet the new iPod changes very little, but just comes in more colors like the Nano.
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Don't forget COLORS!
I bet the new iPod changes very little, but just comes in more colors like the Nano.
YouTube=WiFi=dramatic tactical shift=same ol' strategy
I think the iPods will have WiFi, and I think that is in part because Apple/Jobs recognize the value of viral content, such as YouTube.
Apple created iTS to make their hardware more attractive, not to make money directly. It is a significant step for Apple to leverage a third party into doing the same thing i.e. Google/YouTube makes the iPhone and
TV more attractive.
Apple is getting better at partnering. In the case ofTV, Jobs said that it will continue to evolve, and that shared-content from the internet, not paid content from your home PC, may be its killer-app.
If Jobs thinks that aboutTV, then I don't think he's going to offer the new iPod with out YouTube and WiFi. We'll see, though.
I think the iPods will have WiFi, and I think that is in part because Apple/Jobs recognize the value of viral content, such as YouTube.
Apple created iTS to make their hardware more attractive, not to make money directly. It is a significant step for Apple to leverage a third party into doing the same thing i.e. Google/YouTube makes the iPhone and
TV more attractive.Apple is getting better at partnering. In the case of
TV, Jobs said that it will continue to evolve, and that shared-content from the internet, not paid content from your home PC, may be its killer-app.If Jobs thinks that about
TV, then I don't think he's going to offer the new iPod with out YouTube and WiFi. We'll see, though.Since someone else brought up the iPhone Nano, I thought I would take a second to respond.
There will be no product called the iPhone Nano in the future.
And those early iPhone adopters who are afraid of being left behind when the iPhone moves to AT&T 3G network, should not worry either. The iPhone will support 3G with a software patch once AT&T is ready, which may happen at the same time that iPhone is launched in Europe.
Sorry to be off topic, but just thought I would mention it.
As for the iPod, expect the new video iPod this year, well before November and expect it to be the best selling iPod of all time!
Similarities in Design
A couple of thoughts:
1. Using iPhone components for a new ipod will create economies of scale and reduce production cost for both.
2. In order to keep the thin nano form, solid state memory would be used and also increase economies of scale, driving solid-state memory costs down and allowing capacity expansion at the same price point.
A couple of thoughts:
1. Using iPhone components for a new ipod will create economies of scale and reduce production cost for both.
2. In order to keep the thin nano form, solid state memory would be used and also increase economies of scale, driving solid-state memory costs down and allowing capacity expansion at the same price point.
If they released a wifi internet capable ipod it would steal a lot of the thunder from the iphone since only wifi offers a quality web experience.
RIP - Click Wheel 
Am I the only one that thinks a touch screen iPod is a step backward when your current iPod has probably one of the best controls ever on an electronic device, the click wheel!
I actually wish that the iPhone had a small click wheel a the bottom in addition to the touch screen.
what a shame - I guess people dont remember what a pain in the ass the 3g iPods were with those touch button controls. I couldnt use it while snowboarding, I would accidentaly tap pause instead of skip forward when using it in the car, it was terrible.
and yes I do have an iPhone and love the multi-touch but please keep the click wheel on the iPod.
Am I the only one that thinks a touch screen iPod is a step backward when your current iPod has probably one of the best controls ever on an electronic device, the click wheel!
I actually wish that the iPhone had a small click wheel a the bottom in addition to the touch screen.
what a shame - I guess people dont remember what a pain in the ass the 3g iPods were with those touch button controls. I couldnt use it while snowboarding, I would accidentaly tap pause instead of skip forward when using it in the car, it was terrible.
and yes I do have an iPhone and love the multi-touch but please keep the click wheel on the iPod.
I disagree.
I've wanted the "iPhone without the phone" since Steve spoke of the three devices. I was disappointed that the cool ones were brought low by the most obnoxious technology developed in the past quarter-century. Aside from the annoyance that I would be stuck with AT&T, I simply do not like possessing a cell phone. When "they" invent the technology that allows others to call me only when I want to hear from them (or when it isn't dangerous to talk), I might like it. But until that day comes, cell phones are more trouble than they are worth.
I think the number of people who will buy an iPhone just to get the iPod/Internet communicator features (and accepts the odious phone capability as a price to pay for the other greatness) is quite small, so the potential for cannibalization is pretty insignificant.
Of course, when Apple comes up with the mind-reading technology to determine when I want to talk to someone, I'll get the full-fledged iPhone
WiFi is needed but for built-in Apps (that don't include Safari or Mail). That said, Apple may hold out for Revision 2 just to make everyone buy two of those bad boys.
I'd like to see:
Widescreen MultiTouch
Could be Flash or 2.5 HD Storage
YouTube App
Remote Control for your other Apple Media Devices (Front Row on your Mac, Apple TV)
Wireless Sync (Apple TV Style)
Photos
Games
and that's about it.
PS: I forgot to mention, similar headphones to those released with the iPhone so there is still some physical functions when it comes to basic music playback
I'd like to see:
Widescreen MultiTouch
Could be Flash or 2.5 HD Storage
YouTube App
Remote Control for your other Apple Media Devices (Front Row on your Mac, Apple TV)
Wireless Sync (Apple TV Style)
Photos
Games
and that's about it.
PS: I forgot to mention, similar headphones to those released with the iPhone so there is still some physical functions when it comes to basic music playback
Sudden presentation...probably not, as this would require letting people know ahead of time that there's going to be a presentation to attend. Sudden press release is more likely.
I could see new iMacs or MacBooks being introduced via a press release, (probably with daily rumors for a few weeks earlier stating that a new product will be unveiled tomorrow,) and then popping up on the apple.com main page for the rest of the world to witness.
If the new iPods are even half of what everyone is expecting, my guess is that Jobs will want to show it off, which is why my bet goes to MWSF.
I feel it is too early as well. Something just doesn't smell right.
(Edit: OK, I've changed my mind just a little. If Apple wants to promote the iPod and iPhone for games, then it would make sense for Apple to ditch the current video iPod (which uses the click wheel for input) and go with a touch screen video iPod. This way, game developers would have a consistent platform for game development.)
I'm guessing it's too early.. If they released it now, it would cannibalize the iPhone sales. (or, it would have to not incorporate stuff like notes, web-browsing and stuff. Just be a plain iPod. But why produce such an expensive iPod if nothing is gained apart from CoverFlow?
On second hand - I'm just plain stupid. You've got the huge screen for videos - that's enough for me wanting one.
dump for apple, but pretty cool for us!!
not that I'll get one, but it is awesome for apple's prooduct!! I mean, innovation never stops!! Apple
is on its way to conqueer the world, again!
Agreed. The long lag without a new iPod and the fact that the technology is already in the iPhone makes me think September/October.
Apple will have to figure out how to distinguish the iPod from the iPhone. The iPod will be cheaper and have a larger drive, but it's going to be difficult to come up with features that make sense on the iPod but not on the iPhone.
While I suspect the new iPod will not have WiFi, I personally don't buy that it'll steal any thunder from the iPhone if it does. I think that in a very short period of time, iPhone sales will be flat because everyone who really wanted one probably already has one. Then there will be those people that are waiting for their contracts to terminate that'll provide some sales volume, but I just can't imagine sales being very high for a device that ties you to a poor cell provider and doesn't offer some very basic phone and PDA functionality.
Probably only when a major software patch or the release of a 3G capable iPhone comes out will sales spike again. But I just don't think that releasing an iPod which is an iPhone - phone + more storage is going to impact iPhone sales that much.
That would be a dream. I've been holding off on an iod to see if they fer updated.
As a shareholder, I'd care... and I hope Apple cares as well.
While it may not seem the "nicest" thing, Apple is getting A LOT of those very same people who would buy "just" the TS iPod to compromise and get the iPhone because there is no TS iPod yet. Releasing said TS iPod would eat into said sales of said iPhones. And, Apple needs the iPhone to show well in the marketplace. You'd be dividing sales numbers across two (or more) products when they could just sit back and let those people who can't or won't wait for the actual TS iPod get the iPhone. Nothing's stopping them from releasing it later once that market is saturated and those who had the patience to wait will STILL buy the TS iPod thus maximizing apple's sales in both product lines.
Anyway, I lose interest in this argument. Basically just a long way to say that anyone intersted in maximizing profit/profitability DOES care.
No WiFi
Along with a lot of the folks posting here, I also want the new iPod to have WiFi. But I don't think it will come with WiFi and a browser.
Jobs just made it clear that the iPhone is one leg of a new 3-legged-stool strategy. Do you think he is likely to immediately go chopping on the new leg, and also undercut AT&T? I don't. Apple will add WiFi to iPods, but later, not now.
So I believe these new iPods will be similar to iPhones, but will have no phone, no WiFi and of course, then, no browser.
I already have two fine functional iPods (3G and 5G), so I don't see getting this 6G, as I want WiFi and browser too. So instead for my next "iPod" I will get the 12" ultra-micro-mini portable, which I believe will have multi-touch, WiFi, flash storage, and a full OS X, and will be a really butt-kicking iPod. Except for this little detail - it won't fit in my pocket. Oh, and one more thing...it will cost a tad more than a 6G.
Along with a lot of the folks posting here, I also want the new iPod to have WiFi. But I don't think it will come with WiFi and a browser.
Jobs just made it clear that the iPhone is one leg of a new 3-legged-stool strategy. Do you think he is likely to immediately go chopping on the new leg, and also undercut AT&T? I don't. Apple will add WiFi to iPods, but later, not now.
So I believe these new iPods will be similar to iPhones, but will have no phone, no WiFi and of course, then, no browser.
I already have two fine functional iPods (3G and 5G), so I don't see getting this 6G, as I want WiFi and browser too. So instead for my next "iPod" I will get the 12" ultra-micro-mini portable, which I believe will have multi-touch, WiFi, flash storage, and a full OS X, and will be a really butt-kicking iPod. Except for this little detail - it won't fit in my pocket. Oh, and one more thing...it will cost a tad more than a 6G.
How large an all-flash HD (or HDs) could an iPod have and stay in the current price range? 16 GB?
If you think that the Ipod is going to have web browsing capabilities or other iPhone-like features other than a refreshed media player interface with touch controls, you're smoking crack. There's no way they'd put the 620mhz iPhone processor into an iPod, it's worth too much. With the insane cost of the (hoped for) 120GB iPod hard drive, it'd be like 800 bucks. I don't believe any of that.
I'm not sure I buy the cannabalize argument on the iPhone. If Apple released an iPod that had everything but the phone in it, they'd sell a hell of a lot more of them than they'd ever sell iPhones. I am stuck with Verizon and am out in the cold for an iPhone, but I'd buy a device like that in a heartbeat. So would many other people. Does it really matter if they make money on phones or music players?
I think it will have wifi. But the main use of wifi will be to share your content with other 6g ipod users, itunes and the Apple TV. Plus you will be able to watch youtube and listen to internet radio when near a wifi hotspot.
Plus in early 2008, UK users will be able to view BBC programmes on the thing with the iPlayer (they are currently developing it for many different platforms), although it will be Windows XP only at first. It has been hinted at that the iPhone is one of those platforms, so as long as the new iPod has wifi, it should be able to do it too.
Plus in early 2008, UK users will be able to view BBC programmes on the thing with the iPlayer (they are currently developing it for many different platforms), although it will be Windows XP only at first. It has been hinted at that the iPhone is one of those platforms, so as long as the new iPod has wifi, it should be able to do it too.