OSX Shutdown problem

Catfish_Man

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Occasionally my computer refuses to shut down/logout properly. When I choose shutdown from the menu item it quits all programs normally, but then either hangs with everything quit, or restarts the finder and doesn't shut down. I'm using a beige G3 233 w/384MB ram, 30GB HD, 10.1.4.
Has anyone else had this problem? If so, is there a workaround (besides restarting)?
 

rainman::|:|

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'Fraid i've never had this problem... are you using any 3rd party apps/utilities that might affect this? sounds like a process that won't quit normally, or that crashes other parts of the system... but then what do i know about these things... hopefully others will be able to help more...

pnw
 

menoinjun

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Not that this helps, but is your computer even "supported" by OS X? I thought you had to have a G3 300 minimum.

-Pete
 

jelloshotsrule

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i've got a dual 800 and i've had the problem. both with shutting down and restarting.

i've since initialized my drives and such and haven't really had it be a major problem...

try to run disk tools.... other than that, not much i can suggest.
 

Rower_CPU

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Any peripherals (SCSI, USB, Firewire) we should know about?

I've seen weird SCSI and Firewire conflicts manifest as shut down problems...
 

Geert

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Re: OSX Shutdown problem

Originally posted by Catfish_Man
Occasionally my computer refuses to shut down/logout properly. When I choose shutdown from the menu item it quits all programs normally, but then either hangs with everything quit, or restarts the finder and doesn't shut down. I'm using a beige G3 233 w/384MB ram, 30GB HD, 10.1.4.
Has anyone else had this problem? If so, is there a workaround (besides restarting)?
Catfish_man, if you shutdown/logout all apps are quit EXCEPT classic. Classic has to be shut down manually (sys prefs/classic/stop) when you have done this your G3 will shutdown normally. Classic seems to give some problems once in while. Experienced any other odd things? I bet quitting classic might help (eject disc problems, etc...)
That is the only problem, there is nothing wrong with your G3, nor with any 3th party apps, ...
 

Hemingray

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I used to have that same problem, but it hasn't happened since 10.0.x, I think. I shut down the computer with classic booted all the time and never have a problem. Though maybe it's an issue between Classic and the beige G3's?
 

Catfish_Man

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Re: Re: OSX Shutdown problem

Originally posted by Geert


Catfish_man, if you shutdown/logout all apps are quit EXCEPT classic. Classic has to be shut down manually (sys prefs/classic/stop) when you have done this your G3 will shutdown normally. Classic seems to give some problems once in while. Experienced any other odd things? I bet quitting classic might help (eject disc problems, etc...)
That is the only problem, there is nothing wrong with your G3, nor with any 3th party apps, ...
I'll try that, but it still doesn't explain why it works normally most of the time. btw, G3 233s are supported by OSX, but only if you get some more ram for them. I do have a *bunch* of upgrades in my machine, 10X+ the ram it came with, new HD, FireWire card, USB, card, external Zip, external FireWire CD-RW, new CD drive (same type though, I nabbed it out of another G3).
 

mc68k

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Originally posted by ptrauber
Not that this helps, but is your computer even "supported" by OS X? I thought you had to have a G3 300 minimum.

-Pete
Official support is for Beige G3's and higher. The first DT/MT G3's were 233MHz.

Catfish_Man— I have this same problem w/my S900 (based of Tsunami mobo architecture). It seems to be random. I have paid close attention to the shutdown procedure and I can't find a reason why it does this.

My computer hangs after the dock dissapears and the screen goes to blue but before the spinning rainbow cursor. All that appears is the mouse and a blue screen. I still have control over my mouse, but nothing happens for like 30sec. Then once it decides it wants to shut down, I see the rainbow cursor again and 2sec later (bleewww...as my Delta fan whines down)

Is this the same thing that happens to you? Normally my computer shuts down from X in like 3sec, but occasionally it will misbehave. But I asked for it by building this system.

I haven't had much experience with shutting down X on a supported machine, since I had my B&W at work up for 53 days straight (until the power went out :(), so I don't know if this occurs periodically on a supported machine.

But with all the variables in my system (and probably yours too), it would be nearly impossible to pinpoint this. But it only happens randomly, so I don't really care that much.

Hope this helps…
 

mischief

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Here's what I've discovered:

1. OS X and OS 9 should be kept on differing partitions or volumes.

2. Some shareware doesn't like to quit if you haven't registered it.

3. Some SCSI and FW devices don't hear OS X say "Lights Out all you Nogs!!!"

Check the various vendor sites for OS X driver updates and PAY FOR YOUR SHAREWARE.:rolleyes:

Also: A firewall will help too if you have broadband. My office has 3 machines. We average 30-120 hack attempts a day.
 

Rower_CPU

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Re: Here's what I've discovered:

Originally posted by mischief
1. OS X and OS 9 should be kept on differing partitions or volumes.

2. Some shareware doesn't like to quit if you haven't registered it.

3. Some SCSI and FW devices don't hear OS X say "Lights Out all you Nogs!!!"

Check the various vendor sites for OS X driver updates and PAY FOR YOUR SHAREWARE.:rolleyes:

Also: A firewall will help too if you have broadband. My office has 3 machines. We average 30-120 hack attempts a day.
30-120...WTF!?!

What are you doing (and where) that you're incurring that kind of malice?