All iPads "Other" in system files?

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  1. Closingracer macrumors 68000

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    What is this ? Currently taking about 4GB of space on my ipad air 64GB....
     
  2. maflynn Moderator

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    Its stuff that doesn't fit the other categories. Since there is no exposed file system its really difficult to say what's on your iPad. I'd venture a guess and say cache, settings, an temporary files needed
     
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    the way i've done it on my iphone, is backing it up to itunes first, then completely restoring the phone. but i believe over time the "other" will come back. i believe its where the cache for safari and other apps is stored.
     
  5. Closingracer thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Thus sucks then ...I have crap that will take up space that I can't delete

    I've done restore to backup and it is still there (through iTunes )
     
  6. Atrin1 macrumors regular

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    don't do the restore to backup. just do the complete restore. as if its a new ipad. then when its back on, open itunes and restore from back up
     
  7. mpayne2k macrumors 6502a

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    Welcome to Apple...the "other" section has been a nuisance for years now on iDevices.

    The main way I manage it now is by jailbreaking my device and running iCleaner which does a good job telling you how much space was freed. Usually this cuts my "other" section in half.

    I've seen it go up faster of late with the release of iTunes Match/Radio as the temporary files such as album art, etc are stored in "other."

    Keep in mind, however, if you jailbreak, the jailbreak files are also stored in "other" so it will inflate just from whatever tweak you install!
     
  8. Closingracer thread starter macrumors 68000

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    I never had this problem with my iPhone 4 but then again that was the iPhone 4... This is my first idevice back and I simply don't jailbreak ( I am fine in the "walled garden" )
     
  9. charlituna macrumors G3

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    Emails, bookmarks, messages, app data. Basically anything that isn't a photo, video, music, iBook, app is 'other'
     
  10. Closingracer thread starter macrumors 68000

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    7 GB's worth ? this is getting annoying ... I can't delete this ever growing size of Misc crap
     
  11. charlituna macrumors G3

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    Yes it can be deleted, once you determine what it is.

    You asked what was in other. I told you. Now use that information to figure out what needs to be deleted.

    Two places to start. Streaming video apps and email. Video apps that aren't optimized properly don't always dump their cache. Force quit the apps and then reboot your device.

    Email is another, especially if you use gmail. Google borked their iMAP support in the native mail app and flipped local hosting of the archive folder on by default. That folder contains every email ever sent or received since the account was started so it can be very very big.
     
  12. Closingracer thread starter macrumors 68000

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    As an android user this just makes it much harder and just wish for android simplicity (Irony there lol) for deleting the files I want to ....I don't use Gmail ( even though I am an android user my main account is my outlook account ) and I don't use the native app and just use the mail app from apple
     
  13. AppleWarMachine macrumors 6502a

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    I have about 10GB of "other" on my 64GB iPad Air :eek:
     
  14. redman042 macrumors 68020

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    I have found that "Other" category of storage is a huge problem particularly since OS 7 came out.

    I do not think it is data associated with any app. That should show up on the list of storage space consumed by apps when you go to Settings>General>Usage.

    I have had 5 or more GB consumed by Other, then done a full backup, wipe device to factory settings, then restore backup and seen many GBs of space be recovered by this procedure. In fact, the first few times this happened, I was surprised by the sudden increase in free space and thought the restore operation didn't fully complete. I frantically searched the device to find what was missing, but everything seemed to be there, and eventually accepted it. Now I know that Other is mostly or completely junk data that, for some reason, iOS can't take care of itself. Which is really annoying. A backup/wipe/restore is time-consuming and I don't like doing it.

    With iOS 7, the rate at which Other increases in size seems to be much higher. I am hopeful iOS 7.1 solves this.
     
  15. Closingracer thread starter macrumors 68000

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    I figured it was crap that iOS wouldn't just delete because I had a iPhone 4 with ios5 with no issue
     
  16. AppleWarMachine macrumors 6502a

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    I agree, it is too much wasted space to have on a device.
     
  17. redman042 macrumors 68020

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    Seems like a fundamental flaw or omission in iOS that it doesn't do its own housecleaning. Maybe it's a battery saving measure. It should do it when you plug it in.
     
  18. japanime macrumors 68000

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    Isn't "Other" also where over-the-air IOS upgrade files are stored? If so, then those can't be deleted without a clean restore — and those files can take up a huge chunk of the available space.
     
  19. gotluck macrumors 603

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    It's the walled garden that isn't letting you delete those files :p
     
  20. master-ceo macrumors 65816

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    You have to be a iFile/iFunbox ninja to delete those files. Sometimes .zips of apps get stored in a archive location on the iDevice and have to be manually deleted. If you have a HUGE "Other" file with no known App Data taking up that kind of space in apps 9 times out of 10 its the problem I stated above. :)
     
  21. iSayuSay macrumors 68030

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    iOS should just have an option to "Clear cache" or "Optimize storage space" to keep control of "other" files in it.

    Stupid things like this are annoying. iOS is dead simple, easy to use, and offer great experience. But in the same time it's also hard/impossible to do maintenance or something a bit more advanced. If Apple doesn't want it, then it can't be done. The workaround like JB often do more harm than good.

    For example, something like local file sharing is impossible. Whenever my friends aks me to share a simple photo, I can't do it easily. I have to put it on Dropbox or something. Whaat? :rolleyes:

    iOS 7 has AirDrop but it's limited between selected iOS devices ONLY (Not even compatible with AirDrop on OSX, despite share an exactly same name).
    See how stupid that is?
     
  22. maflynn, Jan 20, 2014
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    In theory I agree, but in reality the "Other" category contains permanent type data that apps rely on. If its removed, then you may lose data you want or need for those apps.
     
  23. Lucille Carter macrumors 65816

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    You likely would regret deleting, even if you could. This "other" data has always been there. Restore will only decrease it for a while as it will grow again.

    There have been so many threads about this:)
     
  24. thelookingglass macrumors 68000

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    I agree. I wouldn't go around playing with the Other category. It's labeled so ambiguously for a reason. Quite frequently, there is saved app data that you use and don't know about or remember that's stored in Other.
     
  25. iPodJedi macrumors 6502a

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    I've had as much as 6GB on an 8GB iPod touch. Found out that it was corrupt data so I resynced the iPod and it was all good-of course that was from corrupted data and the stuff u have is just normal other data...it is fine-
    Other is just stuff like emails documents messages and other random stuff that is within the apps...
     

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