Out-Of-Body Experiences

[HughJ]

Last night, lying there in bed, I stayed still and calm as I could. Listened to that ringing in your ears that you get sometimes, and felt myself start to drift off. Fully conscious, I thought to myself, "hey, I'm already making progress!". Soon enough, I couldn't feel any part of my body, and began to think about getting up without physically moving (as described on many "how-to" type AP sites). Right away, I had strange feelings in my legs, as if I could move them around without actually physically moving them. Just as I began to really get somewhere...

*FLASH! FLASH!*

Lighting from the storm lit the room up multiple times, rapid-fire, like a strobe light and I nearly jumped out of my skin!

I've heard many stories of people hearing and seeing strange and sudden things as they begin to leave their body, and for some reason thought that the flashes were part of the experience. My heart went from a soft, subtle beat to pounding in my chest like a jackhammer!

I hope this experience doesn't hinder my ability to concentrate tonight, but I just thought I'd share this amusing story with you guys.

when i was younger i used to do something very similar but more often than not just star at a point on the ceilling...after a while it would feel that my nose was pretty much touching the ceilling.

i mentioned this to my mum about a year ago, she said it was the start of Astral travelling (?!?!?) maybe she projection, anyway she said as a youngster she used to do the same and was able to "turn around" and look at herse;f on te bed.

the weirdest things is, not in a million years would i have ever expected my mum to say something like that and it kinda showd me a different side of my mum that i ever knew.

 

[someguy]

<-snip->

Very cool. I think my parents would question my sanity if I mentioned this to them. Most certainly my father, as he is an athiest and does not believe in spirits, souls, or anything. To him, we are a chunk of chemicals and not much more. I hope he's wrong.

 

[EGT]

Salvia Divinorum extract = OOBE

Bye bye body!

 

[Coheebuzz]

Salvia Divinorum extract = OOBE

Bye bye body!

Which is still legal in most countries of the world

 

[d wade]

Anyone see the season finale of House?

haha people were blowin special K on 'house'? i have never seen that show.. but thats funny

 

[MongoTheGeek]

haha people were blowin special K on 'house'? i have never seen that show.. but thats funny

House accused fellow doctors of giving it to him.

 

[Les Kern]

The human brain is a magical, incredibly mysterious "thing". They've been studying it for centuries and are still not sure exactly how it works. It's so astounding, in fact, it has the abilty to make up hogwash at a mere whim, fooling it's owner into believing, well, hogwash.
Instead of wasting your time on foolishness, pick up a book on the human brain. It's WAY more interesting.

Signed,
Trying to be "Mr. Popular"

 

[Les Kern]

Anyone see the season finale of House?

Yes! The BRAIN, dude, the brain.

 

[neut]

The human brain is a magical, incredibly mysterious "thing". They've been studying it for centuries and are still not sure exactly how it works. It's so astounding, in fact, it has the abilty to make up hogwash at a mere whim, fooling it's owner into believing, well, hogwash.
Instead of wasting your time on foolishness, pick up a book on the human brain. It's WAY more interesting.

Well it's a good thing this foolishness ends when you die ...

Separate the body from the mind and the mind from you(r soul).

I am not chemicals and tissue, but i can be coaxed from this tissue by chemicals. chemicals make me hungry, happy and everything in-between. OOBE can be had when we feel the most. the body is my temple, but it is not my cage. the mind is my computer, but it is not me. my glands are my stimulation to help me leave this body.

i am not a material soul, but i live in a material world. things will ruin us if we're not careful.


peace | neut

 

[clasicks]

Which is still legal in most countries of the world

OOBE to the max. London never looked the same....

 

[someguy]

the mind is my computer, but it is not me.

The brain is your computer, but it is not you. The mind, however, stays with you always.

Is this not what you meant?


@Les Kern:

You are entitled to your beliefs, but I'd rather you didn't refer to mine as "foolishness", thanks.

 

[Les Kern]

@Les Kern:
You are entitled to your beliefs, but I'd rather you didn't refer to mine as "foolishness", thanks.

But to me and every person I know, out of body experiences are right up there with images of Jesus in a piece of burnt toast. While I'd admit it "COULD" be true, I have yet to see any real studies on it that didn't have guest lecturers like Geraldo Rivera and assorted crackpots, therefore rendering so-called serious analysis useless at best.
Faith is a funny thing... but not THAT funny. Look at what it could logically be, not the mystical version that the mind conjures up.
And get that book on the brain. It will blow you away.

 

[someguy]

But to me and every person I know...

I'm happy for you and every person you know.

Reading a book on the brain to disprove OOBE's is like reading a science book to disprove the Bible. I know the human brain is capable of some amazing things, but that doesn't mean I should believe there's nothing more to me than what is sitting in this chair typing these words. Maybe there isn't, but then again, maybe there is no God. No one knows for sure, but that doesn't mean we can't have faith, and it certainly doesn't mean what others believe is "foolishness".

 

[rmrpereira]

Hi.

You might want to have a look at the Monroe Institute (located in the USA). Bob Monroe, who founded the Monroe Institute, started it all by having his OBEs. They have residential 1 week courses where people experience expanded states of consciousness (using an audio technology developed by the Monroe Institute, called Hemi-Sync) to know more about human nature and its potential (and a lot more).

By the way, I am helping organize, in Portugal, a residential course called SyncCreation, on December, given by Dr. Joe Gallenberger, considered an expert in manifestation and psychokinesis (PK), who is a trainer at the Monroe Institute and author of other amazing workshops like the Vegas Adventure Workshops (where he successfully teaches how to influence dice at the Las Vegas casinos).

The course is about learning how to influence our physical reality. It goes from influencing physical matter to achieving abundance in one's life (at many levels). Participants will do Hemi-Sync meditations, and watch and learn how to bend silverware, grow seeds in their hands and influence dice (among other exercises) with the use of non-physical energies.

For more information please check the event's site:
http://www.synccreationinportugal.com

Best regards,
Ricardo Pereira

 

[someguy]

Thanks for the info, rmrpereira.

 

[njmac]

I've had a form of lucid dreaming in sleep paralysis which can be absolutely terrifying so I wouldn't wish it on you. And it's not so much OOB as 'stuck in body'

My sister had a few attacks when she was about 16 and I read up on them for her, specifically on how to try to counter them if you were in one since your brain is functioning and can recall things. Then I put it to the back of my mind for the next 8 years or so.

Then one night I woke up in the middle of the night and couldn't move. I could have sworn blind there was someone in the room with me who had their weight on my chest holding me down. I couldn't scream, I couldn't speak and I couldn't sit up or move. I was petrified... then I remembered my sister's sleep paralysis and concentrated on just trying to move my little finger and the spell was broken.

I've been suffering from this since I was about 12 years old. The one trick I've learned works every time without fail to break the spell. Instead of struggling to move/speak, just relax. Make an effort to be totally limp, and you will wake right up.

 

[iJon]

But to me and every person I know, out of body experiences are right up there with images of Jesus in a piece of burnt toast. While I'd admit it "COULD" be true, I have yet to see any real studies on it that didn't have guest lecturers like Geraldo Rivera and assorted crackpots, therefore rendering so-called serious analysis useless at best.
Faith is a funny thing... but not THAT funny. Look at what it could logically be, not the mystical version that the mind conjures up.
And get that book on the brain. It will blow you away.

I have to agree with you Les. They talked about this on Penn & Teller's Bulls***. They say a lot of these out of body experiences happen when oxygen is cut from the brain. The brain does something like a natural hallucination which causes a lot of these feelings. Their examples were test pilots in the training center being spun around at high G's until they pass out. About 20% all claimed similarities to out of body experiences. The brain is a very complex device, very complex.

jon

 

[neut]

I have to agree with you Les. They talked about this on Penn & Teller's Bulls***. They say a lot of these out of body experiences happen when oxygen is cut from the brain. The brain does something like a natural hallucination which causes a lot of these feelings. Their examples were test pilots in the training center being spun around at high G's until they pass out. About 20% all claimed similarities to out of body experiences. The brain is a very complex device, very complex.

jon

Science is just as much a faith based hallucination. We've all agreed 1+1 = 2 and time is based on 360º and we put faith into that as being the end all to our reality and everything should fit into it yet, the further we push the boundaries of known science we end up making up more ******** to explain what isn't fitting into our models. New models are made and again we pat ourselves on the back and fill the ego with dopamine.

We will never be able to explain the in between because the deeper we look the smaller it gets ... the edge of reality is the same in contrast. Science (like religion) was created to calm the fear of the unknown. It has been perverted (again like religion) into a greedy power struggle of who is right and who is wrong.

i used to think science was everything, but it's quite a cold and boring place to live. this reality is only what we choose to make it.


someguy - the mind is a function of the brain ... much like the fist is a function of the hand (or parts there of). i would only refer to myself as the soul (or luminous being) that inhabits the body. the frequency of vibration this vessel exists at seems to act as a trap for the soul until released by a trigger from the glands. my personal favorite OOBE is that which is triggered by the act of love between to bodies ... two physically making one coaxing the souls into allowing themselves to join.


njmac - sleep paralysis is an interesting state. i have experienced it many times (often with a sound of zipping all around me). i often find myself in a completely different bed in that state and have visitors that yell at me for no apparent reason ... usually visions of family members; occasionally daemons or demon-like creatures.

if i ignore it, after i've had my fill of the experience, it will usually let me go and i can awaken with no problems. i'm usually very hot and sweaty after the experience. the sleep-state seems to linger for quite a long time after i awaken from this type of sleep paralysis.


peace | neut