Thats fine, so lying about being end to end encrypted isn’t an issue?
I didn't say it wasn't an issue, but it's a different issue than not being encrypted. E2E isn't as safe as people think it is, you always have the authentication/MITM problem.
Thats fine, so lying about being end to end encrypted isn’t an issue?
I don't see the comment you're replying to in any way asserting that Zoom is encrypted. Simply giving a list of desirable attributes.They are not encrypted. That was a false claim and one of the reasons they are having issues.
I think they are abandoning because of this lit of issues.Who is it an issue to? And are companies abandoning Zoom because of this? I personally don't care as long my confidential information discussed during a Zoom session doesn't end up on the dark web.
I don't see the comment you're replying to in any way asserting that Zoom is encrypted. Simply giving a list of desirable attributes.
- Zoom's claims that it uses end-to-end encryption to secure communications were proven to be misleading. The company stated that in a meeting where every participant is using a Zoom client and which is not being recorded, all sorts of content — video, audio, screen sharing, and chat — is encrypted at the client-side and is never decrypted until it reaches the other receivers. But if one of the value-add services, such as cloud recording or dial-in telephony, is enabled, Zoom has access to the decryption keys, which it currently maintains in the cloud. This also makes it easy for "hackers or a government intelligence agency to obtain access to those keys," security expert Matthew Green said.
Who is? Got some solid proof beyond the hyperbole and one or two MR posters?I think they are abandoning because of this lit of issues...
Who is? Got some solid proof beyond the hyperbole and one or two MR posters?
Zoom stock is up. What does that say? That this is a non-issue regardless of the hubris. Also doesn’t acknowledge the increase in activations so one-sided.![]()
Google bans employees from using Zoom on their devices
Another day and another organization has banned Zoom over privacy concerns around the popular video conferencing app. This oneâs pretty big: Google has barred all its employees from using Zoom on their devices. BuzzFeed News reported last nthenextweb.com
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Who has banned Zoom? Google, NASA, and more | TechRepublic
Zoom's security woes have led to a number of organizations, companies, and schools banning or restricting its use, with some recommending alternatives such as Microsoft Teams.www.techrepublic.com
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New York City bans Zoom in schools citing security concerns
The decision was made in part by New York City's Cyber Command.techcrunch.com
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American schools are banning Zoom and switching to Microsoft Teams
After many schools adopted Zoom to conduct online lessons during the coronavirus lockdown, concerns about security and privacy have led to a ban on the video conferencing software across the US.betanews.com
👍Zoom stock is up. What does that say? That this is a non-issue regardless of the hubris. Also doesn’t acknowledge the increase in revenues, so one-sided.
Cisco Cloud Webex
I found it cheaper for our 60,000 users. We also have 2 10G direct connects through Equinix to Cisco which wasn't available at the time for zoom.
Opening 4 ports to a couple of hosts is a nightmare. Your network team is garbage.
Straight from the documentation:
TCP port 443 to lqtservice-web.wbx2.com
TCP port 443 to uds.huron-dev.com
TCP port 443 to gds.huron-dev.com
TCP port 443 to idbroker.webex.com
TCP port 8443 to callcontrol.huron-dev.com
TCP port 5061 to lqtservice-web.wbx2.com
TCP & UDP port 5004 to lqtservice-web.wbx2.com
I would trust my wife having cocktails with Bill Cosby before trusting anything from ms.
Zoom stock is up. What does that say?
Also doesn’t acknowledge the increase in activations so one-sided.
I didn't say it wasn't an issue, but it's a different issue than not being encrypted. E2E isn't as safe as people think it is, you always have the authentication/MITM problem.
Not sure why people think that out of all the Conference systems out there that only Zoom has insecurities. Guess it's Pile on Zoom month...
Zoom has real problems, which I suspect is due to low-quality Chinese outsourcing coupled with their satisfy the pointy-haired IT boss at all costs mentality. Sending the video stream and decryption keys to people in the waiting room is one of the worst.
So basically, there is not solid proof this "news" had any real effect. Only some hyperbole about Enron. I hear Teams isn't as good as Zoom. Ymmv.Very little. See Enron and Worldcom.
Probably from free consumers which bring in little revenue. For all of these companies, their bread and butter are large corporate licenses.
Take Zoom's retail pricing: $15/month. Nobody is going to pay that when you get Teams with Office 365 with dial-in conferencing for $5+4=$9/month, ignoring the other cloud services that come with it.
Apparently I believe three use cases don't constitute a "trend", is more like it. Because the article ignores the popularity and growth of this service. So huge influx of customers minus some outgo seems like a net positive. edit: Get to be right for today, maybe wrong for tomorrow.👍
you asked who, so I gave you “who”.
edit. actually it’s down
I hear Teams isn't as good as Zoom. Ymmv.
It dropped 78.37%, that’s bad for any company.So basically, there is not solid proof this "news" had any real effect. Only some hyperbole about Enron. I hear Teams isn't as good as Zoom. Ymmv.
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Apparently I believe three use cases don't constitute a "trend", is more like it. Because the article ignores the popularity and growth of this service. So huge influx of customers minus some outgo seems like a net positive.
It's about level for the last 6 months. Apple has the same type of fluctuations and can fluctuate wildly. Not saying Zoom doesn't have items to address, but it's going down the tubes as being postulated here. Nor are they having any real issues. They are the #1 target at this point in time.It dropped 78.37%, that’s bad for any company.
I know, which is why I said it is need as part of a good corporate solution; not that Zoom was encrypted.They are not encrypted. That was a false claim and one of the reasons they are having issues.
Oh, because the drop has NOTHING to do with the recent news about it. KIt's about level for the last 6 months. Apple has the same type of fluctuations.
Zoom has been about level the last 6 months. You are calculating the drop from a one day abnormal high. Apple has also fluctuated wildly. And you don't know if the fluctuations were due to the news or the economy.Oh, because the drop has NOTHING to do with the recent news about it. K
imagine if Apple dropped 78.37%
When has Apple have that big a drop recently? I don’t think they had a drop like that even with the FaceTime issues last year (or the year before?).Zoom has been about level the last 6 months. You are calculating the drop from a one day abnormal high. Apple has also fluctuated wildly. And you don't know if the fluctuations were due to the news or the economy.![]()
So basically your narrative is they are in trouble. And my narrative is they have exhibited growth with normal turn-over and are doing well. The stock being up is dependent on the time frame and is it up over the long haul. Similarly stock being down depends on the day day you are measuring against. So, unfortunately this is the game that is being played.When has Apple have that big a drop recently? I don’t think they had a drop like that even with the FaceTime issues last year (or the year before?).
You 1st wanted a list of companies who ban Zoom, I Gave you it. You said their stock was up, it’s not. Now you give excuse... ok cool, you like them and probably own stock in them.
Technically as a whole was up.So basically your narrative is they are in trouble. And my narrative is they have exhibited growth with normal turn-over and are doing well. The stock being up is dependent on the time frame and is it up over the long haul. Similarly stock being down depends on the day day you are measuring against. So, unfortunately this is the game that is being played.
Ok, cool, you are biased against Zoom because you own stock in Cisco. /s
At least they are trying. Who knows, they might be good after all of this.
Overblown rubbish.....what’s a better platform that is stable and works consistently?