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Watch the WWDC session videos and you'll soon know
I'm not a dev. Is the info under NDA?
It's not something Apple advertised, but they really emphasised it to developers: It's a new way of displaying text . You can actually scale up the text without making it too thick, and scale it down without making it too thin. So it'll be easily legible.
And the user will be able to set the text size system-wide (in all apps). So if I have bad eyes, I can set all text to appear larger in settings, then all apps that support the dynamic typing will show the larger text. The UI of all apps will respond and change so that the bigger text can happen without overlaps.
It's really one of those cool and small features that can make a huge difference.
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I'm currently jailbroken and I see iOS 7 as implementing many of the popular tweaks in a far cleaner manner. I really like the way they have cleaned up all the toolbars, made the status bar transparent, added control center, etc. I love the swipe back and forward being universal. I think that will be huge for such a minor change. I still want widgets and the ability to put my icons anywhere I want. I love photography and want my wallpaper front and center. I have 2 widgets equivalent to 1 row each along with 5 icons in my dock and I swipe to a second page on the dock to get to a folder that has most of my other apps. I use my phone for music a lot, so I have a music widget so I don't need to go into the app. Swipe right or left to skip forward or back right on the home screen. And I have the weather/clock widget at the top of the home screen.
I would also like smaller tweaks, such as scaling icons, adding transparency to icons, and removing labels from icons. Those are all the first things I did after jailbreaking. I will likely just put a row of folders across the top to clean up the home screen as much as I can. But I'm excited about the direction iOS 7 is going for once.
I would also like smaller tweaks, such as scaling icons, adding transparency to icons, and removing labels from icons. Those are all the first things I did after jailbreaking. I will likely just put a row of folders across the top to clean up the home screen as much as I can. But I'm excited about the direction iOS 7 is going for once.
Thank you for the explanation.
I just wish Apple would implement this system-wide. For instance, I'd love it if I could make the font bigger in Notification Center. Also, I believe this isn't implemented in the Settings app. I do hope many devs choose to implement this, but in a way, things like this would work better if it weren't an option, but a system-wide setting that applies to all apps no matter what. So that devs don't even have to think about it, and those of us who need vision enhancement can have it in all apps.
Seriously a widget is for someone too "lazy" to tap an app? We are talking about smart phones here.
This is as silly as someone saying "a weather app is for someone to lazy to look out a window or predict their own weather". "Tapatalk is for those too lazy to open safari and goto a forum".
I think you are confusing convenience and an easy way of doing certain things with laziness. Laziness would be someone that didn't bother to set up a widget or download an app just because they were too lazy to do so. Not someone that wants valuable information to them on the screen at all times. What about the stock widget in iOS? I guess I'm just lazy right? Should just drive to the stock exchange. What about the weather widget in iOS? I guess when I'm hiking for days on end and look at it is because I'm lazy.
Android phone designers make large screens because they outsells the small screen variants (S3 Mini, S4 Mini, Droid line, etc). Blame the consumer for small screens not selling not the companies supplying them. You think if Apple introduced a 4.5" iPhone next to the 4" iPhone the 4.5" wouldn't immediately outsell the 4"?
Widgets are redundant AND a step between the user and the information? So which is it?
iPhone
1. Unlock phone
2. Tap app
Done
Widget/Live tile
1. Unlock phone
Done
Then if you require more information you can.
2. Tap widget
Done
Not exactly extra steps is there? It is another method of opening an app so that could be called redundant. More steps would be the iOS way currently.
1. Unlock phone
2. Pull notification window
Then if you need more info
3. Tap widget
Very strange post IMO. Because in the end if you don't like them, don't use them! Easy as that. Most of my friends don't use iOS widgets. They don't like them but at the same time they don't hate them. They just don't use them!
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You like widgets? Great!
You read and know I'm right or you were to lazy it read it. Which one of those is it?
Until Apple "invent " them, then you'll wonder how you ever lived without them
It is indeed system-wide. Ask someone if it works on notification centre (I haven't tried and I don't want to install a beta on my device). And apple made it really easy for devs to implement it.
No, it's not, and it doesn't work on notification center, I tried.
Like I said, Apple didn't even implement this in all their stock apps, so I'm sure there will be plenty of devs who fail to implement it, too.
Let's see for iOS:
1. Press home button to turn on display
2. Pull notification window..
Done!
Or if you're in an app and you want info, here's how it goes in android:
1. Go to homescreen
2. Swipe to page that shows relevant information.
3. Go to task switcher
4. Go back to app, to resume what you were doing
and for iOS:
1. Swipe down to view info
2. Swipe up to dismiss.
And even better, your homescreen won't be completely messed up. Your apps won't be placed in two distinct locations. Your homescreen will be right there, to serve its purpose of offering a place to begin using the device.
I personally don't see there being such a big use of widgets, it's not like the widgets on current Macs are useful really. Sure there are a few that are nice to have such as the weather and calendar, but there are already apps for that on iOS devices.
In the current version of iOS you are going to need to unlock the phone prior to pulling down the notification window so you left out step(s).
Depending on your home screens in Android you are adding steps too. I could say.
1. Turn on iPhone
2. Unlock iPhone
3. Enter passcode
4. Pull down notification window.
5. Scroll to the bottom of all your notifications to see the widget.
6. Close notification window
7. Lock iPhone.
That's just me adding unnecessary things to make it look harder.
Plus I think the philosophy of use of an Android widget is different. I wouldn't look at widgets for info I would just see them. For example I wouldn't be interested in looking at Facebook but I notice a post that interest me so now I am. Or I see in the forecast its going to snow where previously I didn't care about the weather. If I was really curious about something I'd open the app as normally.
Btw I'm not some huge Android/Windows phone widget/live tile snob. I just see their usefulness to certain people for certain information. Apple has them and even calls them widgets and some are about useless like the weather widget, it shows current weather......ok. If I was trapped in a cell with no windows that might be useful.
It upsets people Android has them but its ok for Apple to have literally the most useless widget ever?
As far as widgets and icons, well I'd rather have short cuts then required to put them on a screen. If tapping the widget opens the app then don't put an icon on any of your screens. Nothing cleaner then blank is there?
All this is subjective I guess. So obviously neither of us are right or wrong. However if I were to make the perfect OS for ME it would include parts of iOS, android and windows. And it would most certainly have widgets/live tiles like they all do now.
yea that looks good on paper, but 90% of widgets on android do not funtion that way. they simply provide a flashy shortcut to take you into the app. 1 tap is 1 tap.
I use an iPhone now but when I did have Android I never had an issue with them. They were just summaries of the apps I used.
Like Facebook. I use it 2-3 times a week on iOS because I'm generally not interested in it. With Android I'd use it multiple times a day because I would just see stuff that interest me.
I don't know if that's necessarily a good thing or bad thing but I could always delete the widget if I felt I was using it too much.
The only widgets I use on iOS 6 (jb) are forecast and jukebox. Forecast shows current weather and clock with date. Swipe left across it and it shows the next 5 days forecast. Swipe back right to go back to the previous. Jukebox shows album art and data on current track playing (or paused) Swipe left (even partially) to see what track is coming next. Swipe all the way left to skip tracks. Same for looking back. Tap on it and you get controls for volume, rating, etc. Hold on it and go to the Music app. Both far more than shortcuts to the app and central to how I use my phone.
Oh, my bad. I'd expect it to be implemented in future beta builds. And a word of advice: don't install a beta if you're not a dev. You can screw your device and yourself over. Just hold your curiosity or whatever until fall.
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Before I comment, let's just get this out of the way: YOU'RE TYPING TOO MUCH!
Seriously, I'm not going to read a wall of text.
iOS 7 allows for accessing NC from the lock screen. This thread is about iOS 7, so that's relevant. And I still value having one single, simple homescreen over some cluttered home screen that has widgets. And the widgets on android just look very strange and awful. They seem to try and become miniature versions of entire apps. Do I want those? No. There are people like you who want them, an I don't.
And iOS notification centre can give the forecast for the entire week. Just swipe horizontally to see it. And don't complain about iOS 7 not having them, as it's still in it's first beta. Apple actually didn't include a lot of stuff, like the voice memo app.
Until Apple "invent " them, then you'll wonder how you ever lived without them
Widgets have been on mac os and windows long before android arrived.
Thanks for the advice. I just loaded it onto my backup 4S, so I'm ok if ithat gets bricked, or otherwise turns out unusable. My main iPhone 5 is on iOS 6, jailbroken, and probably staying that way until a jailbreak is released for iOS 7.
If people could design the whole thing themselves, they'd still complain. It's just human nature.