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OWC Debuts New Thunderbolt 3 Products: SSDs, PCIe Expansion Chassis, Six-Bay RAID, and External GPU
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If these external drive enclosures use standard SATA connectors, the SSDs can get as fast as they want, the speed will still be limited to SATA levels. The only reason to use TB on a single-drive SATA enclosure is to be able to it as part of a TB chain.
Please please please release an m.2 enclosure
The reason why we don't have one is because Intel doesn't allow it. I wish Intel would lift this restriction.
When TB3 was introduced, it was supposed to be much cheaper than TB2, but it's still prohibitively expensive.
Exactly! I just wanted something portable that doesn't need an external power supply as well.
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I don't think that information is accurate (see below). I just want the enclosure.
http://www.sonnettech.com/product/fusiontb3pcieflashdrive.html
Good on OWC capitalizing on the shortcomings of the MacBook Pro. It sucks you need so much extra hardware to turn it into a Pro machine that's capable of doing what you need it to.
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Source? There are no known restrictions with TB3 + m.2 drives, that doesn't sound right.
As for TB3, I don't recall Intel ever saying TB3 was going to be cheaper.
What they did say was TB3 would be integrated with USB-C/USB 3.1 Gen2 on the same chipset to help save the packaging costs. That's not the same as reducing the cost of the TB3 controller chip, which is still expensive but given it came with USB 3.1 Gen2, its value is higher.
The problem with TB3 is that Intel is still the only high volume seller, there was a company that was just getting started to ship controllers for TB3 but I don't remember what happened to them.
I think it's because TB3 is more cross platform in terms of working with Mac AND Windows, and is only getting more adopted and compatible as time goes on. You can always buy an adapter that makes TB3 into TB2, but if you're dropping this much cash on a machine it's nice to know it will work even better when you replace your computer down the line.
Its time for Apple to officially support E-GPUs in Mac OS. They've delayed long enough. With an E-GPU you can take any MacBook and give it more graphics power than any Windows gaming laptop. Make it happen Apple!
Or even better, why doesn't Apple just make their own official E-GPU case....
Or even better, why doesn't Apple just make their own official E-GPU case....
You can't buy it without a drive inside it though. See below.
"...manufacturers are not permitted to unbundle storage from bus-powered Thunderbolt storage devices." - Sonnet Support
https://twitter.com/sephr/status/817883011165233152
Not many people know about this restriction and it dates back to TB1. Awhile back I remember Akitio saying the same thing about their TB1 products. I can't find that post though.
I really love TB for its utility, but Intel is making it harder to adopt than it needs to be. TB shouldn't be reserved for professionals, it should be accessible to everyone.
Any recommended adapter for Windows? I bought the Apple one when it was discounted, but apparently it only works with OSX. The adapters on Amazon looked sketchy.
Anyways, I was talking about docks not having any TB2 ports, not the computers themselves.
I don't think the unbundling was the OP's main desire. It was to have PCIe-based SSDs instead of SATA-based ones.
Then...that's almost twice the speed of 1/8th the speed of RAM!
That would require Tim Cook to focus on something besides green energy and politics.
The OP said he wants an "enclosure" and I posted the reason why that's not going to happen.
Can I hook up two adapters? TB3->TB2->TB1? don't mind losing bandwidth
just sick of bad dGPU's in very thin laptops!
I wonder if TB4 will make additional changes to the port or are they finished with port layout and will focus on just speed from this point on.
It is a pro machine. Just because the went full blown TB3 early doesn't make them toys. TB2 will be on its way out. By next year this will not be an issue. The versatility of being able to use any of the ports for whatever you want is a great thing. Yes TB3/USB-C peripherals are expensive but this is always the case with the latest tech.
Well this might be the reason to all of the dock delays to all the manufactures. I've been taking to a manufacture of a thunderbolt dock that sells at wholesale to other companies,and they have be experiencing issues on the release date. (I Think the star tech company probably uses them) http://imgur.com/a/OL9z1
just look up the model of the dock in the picture and you'll see.
just look up the model of the dock in the picture and you'll see.
Not really. Check out:
Intel crosses an unacceptable ethical line
http://semiaccurate.com/2017/03/27/intel-crosses-unacceptable-ethical-line
I read through Demerjian's prior post earlier in the day - http://semiaccurate.com/2017/03/27/intel-releases-consumer-m-2-xpoint-ssds/ - and noted his tone was pretty downbeat/pissed on the shenanigans by Intel. Sad here, sounded great when the first PR came out…
I would take a pretty large bet that the port won't change for at least five years. For once, the port used by Thunderbolt stayed the same for five years (2011 to 2016). Second, TB has piggy-backed on existing ports so far, I don't see them changing this and I don't see a new port coming out they could switch to. Certainly USB-C won't change to USB-D (or whatever) any time soon given how long the previous USB port lasted, it's the most used port in computers and that infers some staying power to it. And lastly, USB-C is designed to be so versatile with all its alternate modes and power supply features that TB staying with it brings so many synergies that it is really hard to imagine TB moving away from it anywhere in the short to medium term.
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You don't need an adaptor for TB2->TB1. Same plug. The only thing to be aware of, is that everything downstream from the first TB1 device will be limited to TB1 speeds.Can I hook up two adapters? TB3->TB2->TB1? don't mind losing bandwidth
I read this link you provided and the link the poster below yours posted, I'll just wait and see what's the truth, I've read other articles as well and it seems to me Micron is the one to wait for.
Got a link for you too, but it's quite a read.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/3d-xpoint-guide,4747-10.html
Yup haha facepalmed remembering it's backward compatible ^^ had hope not to faceplant in these waters!
Reminds me of an engineer preaching "measure twice, cut once."
paraphrasing of course: think twice before you post online, especially MR