Pages and MobileMe - no integration at all?

RealEvil

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Hi,

I just bought Pages for the iPad. I assumed (though I should have checked) that it would let me open files from my iDisk and ideally save them back there but it does not . Surely that would have made sense?

Is there any way of getting iDisk files to Pages?
 

iCheddar

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Apr 30, 2007
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Oh yes, of course there is.

And you'd be shocked by how intuitive it is.

All you need to do is get on a computer. Really any machine will do, Mac, PC, whatever, something with file management of some kind. Access your iDisk from the mobileme website, then download the file, then email it to yourself.

From there all you need to do is open the email on your iPad and open it in Pages. Makes perfect sense right?

Then when you want to get the file back off your iPad, all you need to do is find a computer again (this can get repetitive). But before you dock, you need to export the file in Pages, because it would make perfect sense that the way Pages deals with files is completely different from how desktop Pages does. So after you export your document so that every other computer in the world can read it, you simply dock you iPad, and under file sharing for Pages in iTunes, you will see your file, then you just copy the file to your iDisk, which you should have mounted on your machine.

Makes perfect sense right? I think its the most innovative way to do a mundane task I've ever seen.

Bitter? Me? Never.
 

jaykk

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Oh yes, of course there is.

And you'd be shocked by how intuitive it is.

All you need to do is get on a computer. Really any machine will do, Mac, PC, whatever, something with file management of some kind. Access your iDisk from the mobileme website, then download the file, then email it to yourself.

From there all you need to do is open the email on your iPad and open it in Pages. Makes perfect sense right?

Then when you want to get the file back off your iPad, all you need to do is find a computer again (this can get repetitive). But before you dock, you need to export the file in Pages, because it would make perfect sense that the way Pages deals with files is completely different from how desktop Pages does. So after you export your document so that every other computer in the world can read it, you simply dock you iPad, and under file sharing for Pages in iTunes, you will see your file, then you just copy the file to your iDisk, which you should have mounted on your machine.

Makes perfect sense right? I think its the most innovative way to do a mundane task I've ever seen.

Bitter? Me? Never.
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Edit: good reader will let you open a variety of online storage including mobile me. Not a perfect solution your looking for.
 

iCheddar

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This is true, Good reader, and AirShareHD (if you feel like spending the $8) can access files on iDisk. It'll save you half the steps in the circle of getting files on and off iPad.

Either way, the inability to easily access and write to cloud storage is a HUGE oversight on Apple's part.

My hope is that they'll realize that there are a significant amount of iPad users who actually want to get things done with iPad.
 

emotion

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I'm very surprised by that. I have a sneaking suspicion that a big update to MobileMe is coming. There's lots they could do. I'd even speculate that they could move iPad from a representation of your main Mac to a representation of MobileMe. ie. iPad is more or less standalone and syncs over the air.

Maybe when they launch the LaLa based iTunes?

(I know, this doesn't help you right now - sorry).
 

oftheheavens

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im still waiting to get mine due to being stationed in japan and having to wait for an APO company to ship mine (should arrive tomorrow).

but um....is all this true? you can't just save on your ipad and have it sync to mobile me?

so let me see if i understand. I am at class and i start a paper on my ipad......i get home and want to continue typing on my imac, so i have to go into pages on my ipad, click export, sync ipad, go into itunes, ?sync files?, and then i can continue?

but what if god forbid i am in a rush in the morning and forgot to save/export on my imac and don't sync before i go back to class? am i SOL?

hope that rant made sense..
 

DotCom2

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There REALLY need to be a substantial update to Mobile Me and it needs to be soon!
There is so much potential there it's redic!
 

Chip NoVaMac

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Disappointed

that Apple did not take the time to make Mobile Me work with the iPad at launch it seems.

Still on the fence here as to whether I will get an iPad anytime soon...
 

lionheartednyhc

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im still waiting to get mine due to being stationed in japan and having to wait for an APO company to ship mine (should arrive tomorrow).

but um....is all this true? you can't just save on your ipad and have it sync to mobile me?

so let me see if i understand. I am at class and i start a paper on my ipad......i get home and want to continue typing on my imac, so i have to go into pages on my ipad, click export, sync ipad, go into itunes, ?sync files?, and then i can continue?

but what if god forbid i am in a rush in the morning and forgot to save/export on my imac and don't sync before i go back to class? am i SOL?

hope that rant made sense..

Here is an excerpt from daring fireball that goes over the syncing issue...

SYNCING

There is, however, a severe shortcoming inherent to the iWork suite of iPad apps: document syncing between Mac and iPad. It’s a convoluted mess. In short, the only way to edit a document on your iPad that was created on your Mac, or vice versa, is to go through a convoluted multi-step process of exporting, copying, syncing or downloading, and importing.

Ted Landau has copiously documented the entire situation in this article at The Mac Observer. Read it and weep.

What it boils down to is that there is no syncing really. Real syncing is something like IMAP for email, or the way MobileMe handles calendars and contacts. When I read a bunch of new email messages using my iPad or iPhone, when I next sit down at my Mac, those messages are marked as read in my inbox. I don’t have to do anything on the Mac for that to happen. That’s just how IMAP works. I can add a new calendar event on my Mac, then walk away from my computer, take my iPhone out of my pocket, and the event is there. I can add a note to that event using my iPhone and a few moments later the note will be synced to the event on my Mac.

Certain of my favorite iPad and iPhone apps sync like this too. When I read a bunch of RSS items using NetNewsWire on my iPad, they’re marked as read on my Mac. Sitting at my Mac in my office, I can send a long article to Instapaper. I go downstairs, pick up my iPad, sit on the couch, launch the Instapaper iPad app, and a few seconds later, there’s the article I just added to my Instapaper queue. This is the sort of data flow that makes me feel like I’m living in the future — using multiple hardware devices to view, edit, and modify the same data. I don’t worry about where separate copies of my data exist. Conceptually it’s just there in the apps, and the apps do all the hard work of pushing and pulling changes made on other clients.

The data flow with these iWork apps isn’t like that at all, and needs to be for them to be truly useful. It doesn’t matter how good the user interface for viewing and editing spreadsheets is in Numbers for iPad if my spreadsheets aren’t there. Here’s an example. I keep the schedule for Daring Fireball RSS sponsorships in a Numbers document. What I’d like to be able to do on my iPad is launch Numbers and access the current version of that spreadsheet. But the only way I could possibly do that today would be if I went through the following steps every single time I made a change to the document on my Mac:

Before opening the current version of the file on my Mac, check to make sure there isn’t a more recent version of it on my iPad.

Open the file on my Mac and make changes.

Save.

Dock my iPad to my Mac via USB.

Switch to iTunes and go to the Apps tab for my iPad.

Add the newly-saved revision of the document to the file sharing list for the iPad’s Numbers app.

Sync.

Even after going through all of this, when I do want to open this file on my iPad, I have to remember not to open the last revision of it listed in the iPad Numbers app’s “My Documents” list, but instead remember first to import the latest revision from Numbers’s file sharing list to Numbers’s “My Documents”.

And, again, it’s effectively up to me to keep track of which machine, Mac or iPad, has the most recent revision of the file. To say the least, this is a recipe for disaster, and even if you don’t make a mistake and inadvertantly make significant changes to an out-of-date version of the document on one of the two machines, you’re stuck with a preposterously, mind-bogglingly convoluted workflow each and every time you make a change to the document.

The bottom line, obviously, is that there is no way that anyone is going to use these iPad apps in the way I describe above.
Source: http://daringfireball.net/2010/04/the_ipad
 

Don Kosak

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I was hoping iWork on the iPad would use iWork.com (Apple's Google Doc work-alike) to store/sync with the cloud.

Maybe it will some day soon.
 

RealEvil

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What about Air Sharing HD? It *looks* like it will let you open from your iDisk and pass the file to Pages. Not sure it will help saving back to iDisk though.
 

czachorski

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Oh yes, of course there is.

And you'd be shocked by how intuitive it is.

All you need to do is get on a computer. Really any machine will do, Mac, PC, whatever, something with file management of some kind. Access your iDisk from the mobileme website, then download the file, then email it to yourself.

From there all you need to do is open the email on your iPad and open it in Pages. Makes perfect sense right?

Then when you want to get the file back off your iPad, all you need to do is find a computer again (this can get repetitive). But before you dock, you need to export the file in Pages, because it would make perfect sense that the way Pages deals with files is completely different from how desktop Pages does. So after you export your document so that every other computer in the world can read it, you simply dock you iPad, and under file sharing for Pages in iTunes, you will see your file, then you just copy the file to your iDisk, which you should have mounted on your machine.

Makes perfect sense right? I think its the most innovative way to do a mundane task I've ever seen.

Bitter? Me? Never.
Not that the process is any easier, but you don't have to email it to yourself and then open it in Pages on the iPad. iTunes is the sync conduit for both to and from the iPad.

I'm also surprised that no one mentioned iWork.com beta, which appears to be a step towards the functionality that I would expect from Apple.
 

RRKPL

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Dec 8, 2007
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It Works Fine! Has anyone else tried this?

I just took a Keynote presentation I made on the iPad with two movies imbedded and used the "Share via iWork.com" option > then opened iWork with my web browser on my Mac after the file uploaded and downloaded the Keynote file to my desktop. > Then opened the file on my desktop with Keynote made a change in the file, saved it as rev 1 and uploaded it from Keynote on the Mac to iWork.com. > Then opened Safari on my iPad went to iWork.com signed in found the file, hit download, after download a button on the top right asked me if I wanted to open the file in Keynote, said yes and iPad Keynote opened with the revised file.

Seems simple enough to me :)
 

mrrish

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Bought an ipad launch day.... returning it tomorrow... will repurchase when it resembles more of a personal computer
 

sassenach74

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mrrish said:
Bought an ipad launch day.... returning it tomorrow... will repurchase when it resembles more of a personal computer
Might have a long wait.
 

Scottological

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It's hardly a substitute for Pages, but EverNote can function as a rudimentary word processor, and it syncs beautifully with your real computer and iphone.

I'm a writer and have found the iPad a great tool for taking notes during interviews and while in the library doing research, but a replacement for a laptop when it comes to real word processing it is not.
 

bpd115

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Get Air Sharing HD

I had goodreader at first and for .99 I couldn't complain, however after seeing a video review of Air Sharing I bit the bullet.

It's a fantastic App and solves nearly every file system complaint. For instance, I had to run into work today and since we're out of ink at home my wife had a PDF I needed to print.

I fired up Air Sharing, typed my iPad IP in her browser and dropped the PDF in.

Got to work and printed my document as I walked in the door.

I also dropped a bunch of documents from my iDisk into Air Sharing. This lets me open them in other apps, like Pages and Numbers.

The only non elegant part was what I just tested. I created a pages document, emailed it to myself, chose open in Air Sharing HD once I got the message in Mail, then in Air Sharing uploaded it back to my iDisk.

It's a bit steep at 9.99 but well worth it.
 

colourtheatre

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Jan 28, 2010
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Hi,

I just bought Pages for the iPad. I assumed (though I should have checked) that it would let me open files from my iDisk and ideally save them back there but it does not . Surely that would have made sense?

Is there any way of getting iDisk files to Pages?
do you know if pages offers password protection of documents? also, cant you upload the documents directly to iWork.com? its not mobileme or iDisk but.. its something.. i suppose :S
 

slffl

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Hi,

I just bought Pages for the iPad. I assumed (though I should have checked) that it would let me open files from my iDisk and ideally save them back there but it does not . Surely that would have made sense?

Is there any way of getting iDisk files to Pages?
Found this out the hard way too, with both Pages and Numbers. A waste of $20.
 

RealEvil

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do you know if pages offers password protection of documents? also, cant you upload the documents directly to iWork.com? its not mobileme or iDisk but.. its something.. i suppose :S
Actually you can write a document then upload it to iWork.com (with a optional password) and invite people to work on it. I then swapped roles (i.e. I pretended I was an invitee) but was unable to click on the email link and edit that document in the iPad but maybe that was just me
 

RealEvil

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I also dropped a bunch of documents from my iDisk into Air Sharing. This lets me open them in other apps, like Pages and Numbers.
So I cannot access iDisk within the app on the iPad itself? I still need a PC?
 

colourtheatre

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Actually you can write a document then upload it to iWork.com (with a optional password) and invite people to work on it. I then swapped roles (i.e. I pretended I was an invitee) but was unable to click on the email link and edit that document in the iPad but maybe that was just me
ohok. the optional password works only when you attempt to upload the file? so you cant actually password protect the document from within Pages itself? (like the latest iWork or MS OFFICE)?