Wonder if the new Palm OS will be able to run on older Treos. Like you, I'm more excited about new software for the existing hardware. The Palm OS has been around for ages, virtually unchanged. Any news on its release?
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Wonder if the new Palm OS will be able to run on older Treos. Like you, I'm more excited about new software for the existing hardware. The Palm OS has been around for ages, virtually unchanged. Any news on its release?
Well, If this could support the iPhone, and Apple gets their **** together and releases it up here in Canada, then i'd definitely consider this for a note-taking aid... Then again, I'm betting that Apple will be releasing a notebook that's quite similar to the one Intel showed us... so, I may get that instead... 
Funny.
Went to some Windows forums where they argue that the Mac is a niche product.
Now I'm on a Mac forum where they argue that the Palm is a niche product.
I wonder what I'll find on the Palm forums?
For the some part Palm bashing, how to hack their device to work more stable and the bashing of Blackberry because it should have been a touch screen device. Or that at least what I see.
I wouldn't pan it so hard, just yet
the majority of PC users out there use a web browser, email, and MS Office --- that's it!
So for the folks who don't need Photoshop/FCP/iLife/etc, this device is actually extremely useful
I've met a lot of 'business' people who only travel with their smartphone, so I can see a lot of people purchasing this device
Me personally? Absolutely not.... I need a device that has constant access to creative apps like DVDSP and FCP, so the Foleo isn't for me.... but I could see my sister investing in one of these things and being very happy
the majority of PC users out there use a web browser, email, and MS Office --- that's it!
So for the folks who don't need Photoshop/FCP/iLife/etc, this device is actually extremely useful
I've met a lot of 'business' people who only travel with their smartphone, so I can see a lot of people purchasing this device
Me personally? Absolutely not.... I need a device that has constant access to creative apps like DVDSP and FCP, so the Foleo isn't for me.... but I could see my sister investing in one of these things and being very happy
Picture of the ports it comes with. It looks like it comes with either a express slot or is that a larger SD Slot?
$359 on sale weekends for Vista-running PC laptops. I already have one of these Palm inventions: it weight a little more, costs quite a bite more, but it does a *whole lot* more: a MacBook.
Don't get me wrong. I switched from a paper calendar to a Palm LifeDrive, and really like it -- I'd love it if it was even 2/3 as easy to take notes on it as paper -- because I do like iCal, I do keep my calendar there, and I was tired of each month sitting down and copying out my iCal entries to my paper diary. And then remembering to copy out any changes. So it just made sense. The LifeDrive works with my MacBook to save me time and add convenience. It's a MacBook "companion", that does more in the diary functions than my iPod. But now the Treo, which is primarily a phone needs a companion which is then a companion to a full notebook computer. Come on.
This, and Microsoft releases a $5,000 - $10,000 touch-screen table display for computers and we're all supposed to go mad over the innovation of it. It's like the props budget for a top-tier science fiction movie. Throw in every gee-whiz technology they can simulate on screen -- to give you that future feel. Both Palm's Foleo and Microsoft's well, whatever it is, are just gadget proliferation. Which is antithetical to using technology to simplify what you do. I still keep notes on post-its stuck to the wall in front of my desk, and in paper notebooks. I know *a lot* of people who work like this, only transcribing to computer that which ultimately becomes essential, or part of the final project.
There's just no "technology to improve your work process" anymore from most designers. I'll spare the Apple TV that criticism. It sits on the table behind our HDTV in our living room, attached to our A/V system. I never see it, I never do anything with it -- except infrequently when I want to copy a new movie to it, because I've set that for manual configuration. I see the remote. My Apple TV, as far as I know, as I far as what I deal with, is the size of a very thin pack of chewing gum. And it plays music, movies and TV shows. A laptop for a phone so you can leave your laptop on your desk, and a big touch-screen video display novelty table item? These are improvements how?
Meh...I want something different. Their just seem like device that do what the Foleo does....but I guess we'll see what At&T does with the iPhone plan before I buy the Treo or iPhone(if I buy the treo, this would be something to pick up later)
This product is actually a pretty good idea. Those detractors in here need to realize that you aren't the target market... Corporate is. Palm has probably done extensive research with their big enterprise clients to see not only how their workforce (particularly their mobile work force) is using their smartphones but how they are using their laptops. I'm sure they found that employees were using laptops to work on documents, spreadsheets, pdfs, surf the internet and of course read email.
One thing everyone needs to realize is that although you can get a PC at best buy for $400 or so, it doesn't have MS Office (Outlook for Exchange server) or Antivirus. Palm has Exchange syncing capability and linux is essentially virus free. That bargain basement PC barely has the power to run Vista so in reality, that laptop might cost you 3 times what you paid for it in the end.
Being in IT, I can see this as a perfect device for the mobile professional and a way to cut costs out of the budget. Corporations don't buy bargain computers at Best Buy. They often buy Lenovos or Dells that are built for business and cost $1500 or more each. After that, there's Office 2K7, Antivirus and the cost of paying people to work a help desk when the thing won't boot up and the person has a presentation in 5 hours because they let their kid load some free game the night before.
This device is PERFECT for business. No Viruses, easy setup and configuration, light/durable for travel, does what it needs to do, cheaper than current solutions. Current UMPCs may run Vista today, but are much to slow to run it well. This product bridges that gap.
Only thing it really needs is a RDC/Citrix client to access a terminal server to access advanced applications.
If it is marketed well, this will be a successful product.
One thing everyone needs to realize is that although you can get a PC at best buy for $400 or so, it doesn't have MS Office (Outlook for Exchange server) or Antivirus. Palm has Exchange syncing capability and linux is essentially virus free. That bargain basement PC barely has the power to run Vista so in reality, that laptop might cost you 3 times what you paid for it in the end.
Being in IT, I can see this as a perfect device for the mobile professional and a way to cut costs out of the budget. Corporations don't buy bargain computers at Best Buy. They often buy Lenovos or Dells that are built for business and cost $1500 or more each. After that, there's Office 2K7, Antivirus and the cost of paying people to work a help desk when the thing won't boot up and the person has a presentation in 5 hours because they let their kid load some free game the night before.
This device is PERFECT for business. No Viruses, easy setup and configuration, light/durable for travel, does what it needs to do, cheaper than current solutions. Current UMPCs may run Vista today, but are much to slow to run it well. This product bridges that gap.
Only thing it really needs is a RDC/Citrix client to access a terminal server to access advanced applications.
If it is marketed well, this will be a successful product.
The biggest issue with this is that there is no pointing device, mouse, or touchscreen display. Talk about behind the times. No one wants to navigate a full GUI on a 10" display with what is essentially a jog dial or scroll wheel to navigate between fields and everything else.
I can see the niche Palm is trying to reach and i dont see why people wont buy it. Instant on, linux, web and office. I'd take this over any UMPC any day. Design could definately have been better though, the thing looks like one of those PowerBooks from the 80s only thinner
My gripe is the actual syncing with the Treos. Bluetooth on treos is about as unstable as my friends relationship
My gripe is the actual syncing with the Treos. Bluetooth on treos is about as unstable as my friends relationship
As one who has written more than 15K words on the Psion, I concur. Apart from the, at times, temperamental modem, it was rock solid, used standard batteries, and had a loooong battery life. The keyboard was small, but I did actually touch-type on it (the second one, that is. The first had a dinky spacebar).
The Psion has still been the best device I've ever owned -- and I've probably had them all, excluding the newton, but including the Tandy 100.
Ah, it had the Foleo beat - hands down.
wow... a revolutionary, cutting edge, innovative new product... that... is um... a... laptop...
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You dont know yet. Palm could implement pairing BT mice in the future and it has a USB port which i guess can be used to attach a mouse
I think I jugde it too fast.....this might be what I need to replace my aging iBook G4. I want something small, Wi-Fi, and support for Text and slideshows(not sure how I'll deal with Keynote-> PowerPoint but I'd live) and for 499...it seems like a great replace ment for laptop, which's point was for internet and text.
I guess we'll see where this goes for me..unless Apple comes and one ups this move, with a sub-notebook
I guess we'll see where this goes for me..unless Apple comes and one ups this move, with a sub-notebook
it got an eraserhead like some of the IBM computers and it has a usb port so you add a mouse or add a USB hub, to add other stuff once they figure out how the linux os works.
I really want one, it be a nice addition in the kitchen since we dont have that LG fridge and this cost less than a UMPC and comes with a keyboard unlike the Nokia tablet, Archos 604/704 wifi and the Cowon Q5(thought latter two have an HD and are full media players it all good). However, I have other expense so I guess I will get one once its $300 or less on ebay.
Problem with an Apple sub-notebook would be the same problem with the Sony sub-notebooks its price. If anything those sub-notes may go for $1500(or that what a classmate paid 3 years ago for his 10.1in Sony Viao with DVD drive and camera.
Funny.
Went to some Windows forums where they argue that the Mac is a niche product.
Now I'm on a Mac forum where they argue that the Palm is a niche product.
I wonder what I'll find on the Palm forums?
The Nokia 770/N800 is a niche product.
Meh, as most are saying.
Rather crappy. I wish I could find something like the old Hewlett-Packard 620/660 palmtops. Their keyboards were just a tad too small for touchtyping, but everything else was exquisite. I didn't even mind WinCE.
I'd totally friggin' buy one. I don't think they sync with OS X, though
Rather crappy. I wish I could find something like the old Hewlett-Packard 620/660 palmtops. Their keyboards were just a tad too small for touchtyping, but everything else was exquisite. I didn't even mind WinCE.
I'd totally friggin' buy one. I don't think they sync with OS X, though
I think this is a pretty great device for work, web-based applications, and note taking.
It's significantly less expensive than a sub-notebook and has some very good basic features. I believe that the simplicity is a good thing, there are less things that can go wrong with it. I might give this a try; I might just make my own web-based software in RoR and access it through the Foleo. I could have all my information, and all my (custom) apps on a robust $499 device that powers on instantly.
Instead of providing employees with full-featured laptops, one could provide them with a WiFi enabled Foleo with web-based applications. Its limitations are an advantage, as it keeps employees from messing up the system.
It's significantly less expensive than a sub-notebook and has some very good basic features. I believe that the simplicity is a good thing, there are less things that can go wrong with it. I might give this a try; I might just make my own web-based software in RoR and access it through the Foleo. I could have all my information, and all my (custom) apps on a robust $499 device that powers on instantly.
Instead of providing employees with full-featured laptops, one could provide them with a WiFi enabled Foleo with web-based applications. Its limitations are an advantage, as it keeps employees from messing up the system.
As strange as it sounds, I was actually half expecting Palm to announce something cool. Palm has been going down hill rather badly since the 700 came out. (both w and p)
I figured they had realized they were dying and the crap they were releasing was totally uninteresting. After all the smack talk they did against Apple, I thought they went back to hammer something amazing out.
Don't get me wrong, I am not looking forward to any new palm devices. This is just further proof that deciding to get an iPhone when its released, will be a better bet.
I figured they had realized they were dying and the crap they were releasing was totally uninteresting. After all the smack talk they did against Apple, I thought they went back to hammer something amazing out.
Don't get me wrong, I am not looking forward to any new palm devices. This is just further proof that deciding to get an iPhone when its released, will be a better bet.
I think you maybe missing some of the big picture here and that is the new Linux based OS is moving to and this trying to show case, in a bad or good way depending on how you see things, this new OS.
***** Stupid
I'm sorry but this makes me realize that I am so much smarter than someone running a multi-billion dollar corporation and I'm being humble LOL!!! Almost anyone that has a smart phone has a laptop already.... DONE and DONE... Goodbye Palm
I'm sorry but this makes me realize that I am so much smarter than someone running a multi-billion dollar corporation and I'm being humble LOL!!! Almost anyone that has a smart phone has a laptop already.... DONE and DONE... Goodbye Palm