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Pandora Limits Free Mobile Listening to 40 Hours Per Month

Will never support Pandora, and will not support DRM. Will never ever use a streaming service. The whole "industry" is rigged and just full of big wigs milking the public under the pretext of "creativity". This goes against the morals of the origins of copyright which has been manipulated to make the public feel guilty when they have done nothing wrong.
 
alchemistmuffin said:
Apple will probably have the streaming service free of charge, because it'll probably going to be part of iCloud, which is free.
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The use of iCloud is not free. it's 100% subsidised within Apple hardware purchases. You buy a Mac or iPad etc and a small % of that cost goes to the upkeep of the iCloud servers. Apple has actually stated this a while back. I forget exactly where though.
 
mw360 said:
So you demand free and unlimited consumption of something and call other people greedy all in the same paragraph.

The music industry has seen its first tentative growth in 14 years. That's not exactly rampant profiteering is it?

Try paying the 99 cents and see if you can still hold your lifestyle together.
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You don't get it do you.

Try 99 cents x 12 months.

With that amount, you can pretty much buy lot of food if you know where to look. Food is much more important than music.

Also, stop being childish or leave.
 
alchemistmuffin said:
You don't get it do you.

Try 99 cents x 12 months.

With that amount, you can pretty much buy lot of food if you know where to look. Food is much more important than music.

Also, stop being childish or leave.
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I really don't get it. Are you joking? :confused:
 
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ziggyonice said:
Basing my findings on the ArsTechnica article I linked to.
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Besides google, think, too....royalties for playing music existed before the Internet/streaming....radio stations SO pay royalties...why do you think they have to run ads?

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Not sure why the 40-hour limit is blamed on royalties when they do not impose such a limit when streaming via the web. I don't use Pandora (I prefer Slacker), but just wondering if you can log-in to the full site from your phone, then listen from there -- would that be considered "web-based" and not mobile?
 
zorinlynx said:
Something I've always wondered...

Why is mobile listening treated differently than desktop listening? For instance, Spotify free lets you do more listening on a desktop than a phone.

Many YouTube videos, particularly songs, cannot be viewed on mobile devices.

I've always wondered about this; it's the same data, it's the same person seeing the same content, just on a different device. Why differentiate?
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B/c of convenience. Same reason why milk, Tylenol, and bandaids costs more at the gas station. Also, probably more users are mobile users these days.

By the way, Apple's iTunes Store is a testament to this. It rose to popularity in the heyday of music pirating, before anyone was willing to pay of digital tunes. Apple knew that the only thing which supersedes American's cheapness is their laziness.
 
So people are upset about having to pay 99 cents a month for unlimited music? Seriously? 99 cents?! Wow. That's pathetic.

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willmtaylor said:
[...] Apple's iTunes Store is a testament to this. It rose to popularity in the heyday of music pirating, before anyone was willing to pay of digital tunes. Apple knew that the only thing which supersedes American's cheapness is their laziness.
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Or just... you know... not wanting to be a thief.
 
DudeDad said:
Not sure why the 40-hour limit is blamed on royalties when they do not impose such a limit when streaming via the web. I don't use Pandora (I prefer Slacker), but just wondering if you can log-in to the full site from your phone, then listen from there -- would that be considered "web-based" and not mobile?
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They're not interested in what you do, they're interested in what their entire userbase does on average. Chances are their royalty deal is tiered so that more traffic means stepping up the royalty rate. Same with their ad rates - more users, higher rates. The convenience of mobile is possibly driving up the average usage per user faster than the uptake of new users. Hence costs threatening to outpace revenue and therefore a desire to control mobile, but not web.

Just a guess though.
 
All the moaning here is absurd. None of us have a natural right to free Pandora services. If you use more than 40 MOBILE hours pay the measly buck or go elsewhere, but stop whining.
 
ziggyonice said:
Blame this on politics.

Regular, terrestrial radio (like what you listen to in your car) pays NOTHING for royalties to play the music you hear.

But for some asinine reason, Internet radio is required to pay substantial royalty fees — that's why Pandora is the most successful out of all of 'em, because no one else could afford it. When Pandora lobbied to Congress to try and get the same opportunities as terrestrial radio, their efforts were torn apart. Lawmakers actually suggested increasing the amount Pandora has to pay.

Absolutely ridiculous.
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Cosign. Those rules are outdated.

I don't understand the hostility and negativity in this thread, people, even if you use Spotify or Apple's non-existent service, you'd better hope and pray that Pandora survives, music labels are crazy.

I personally love Pandora
 
OrangeSVTguy said:
40+ hours via mobile is insane. Guess you better have an unlimited data plan. I will maybe listen to 3-4 hours a day at work when we are on a job with limited radio reception or interference. I wish I had unlimited data plan as I would probably listen to it every day.

I'd like to see Netflix add a music service since I already pay for that :p
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My wife listens on her iPod Touch at work over Wifi. Just has it on in the background, so she only has 1 week to listen too now.
 
Pandora One is $4 monthly, not $1 monthly. Where is there a service for $12 per year on their website?
 

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pagansoul said:
Pandora One is $4 monthly, not $1 monthly. Where is there a service for $12 per year on their website?
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You don't get Pandora One for $0.99. You get unlimited streaming for that month. Pandora One includes no ads. I would imagine that the unlimited streaming for $1 still includes ads to offset the cost.
 
Is there a link for the $1 monthly service? I only see the Pandora One. Ads don't bother me and I tend to play Pandora all of the time on my Sonos Player (unless it is considered a desktop since it doesn't move and is a speaker for my iMac).
 
pagansoul said:
Is there a link for the $1 monthly service? I only see the Pandora One. Ads don't bother me and I tend to play Pandora all of the time on my Sonos Player (unless it is considered a desktop since it doesn't move and is a speaker for my iMac).
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The $1/Mo deal is only if you listen for more than 40 hours a month. So when you go over 40, you get an option to pay $1 to listen for the remainder of that month.
 
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