Panic's New App, Coda

Discussion in 'Web Design and Development' started by radiantm3, Apr 22, 2007.

  1. radiantm3 macrumors 65816

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    Anyone excited about it? It was unfortunately leaked here: http://macapper.com/2007/04/22/exclusive-coda-from-panic-software-reviewed/ (images have since been removed)

    I know it won't replace textmate's power-user features, but it seems like a very nice app in itself. I'm such a sucker for Panic's software so I will most likely end up picking up a license.

    Anyways, it's supposed to be released tommorrow (Monday). Can't wait to try it out!
     
  2. rogersmj macrumors 68020

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    I saw that before the screenshots were yanked, it looks pretty hot. I'll definitely be checking it out, but it will take a lot for me to pry my fingers off of TextMate. I think it will be great for people who kind of ride the line between WYSIWYG and hand-coding. Coda seems to give you a great set of tools to help you hand-code sites and immediately see the results.
     
  3. irmongoose macrumors 68030

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    A web coding suite from Panic sounds awesome. I'm definitely very excited to see what it's all about.



    irmongoose
     
  4. Daveway macrumors 68040

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    This is awesome for me. I've been putting off the move to Dreamweaver for a while and this sounds like the answer. If its anything like Transmit many people should be excited.

    I'm wondering how much is WYSISWG and how much is hand coding.
     
  5. tominated macrumors 68000

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    sounds pretty awesome! can't wait to try it out, although it might have a hard time prying me away from textmate!
     
  6. timmillwood macrumors 6502a

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    I have used Dreamweaver for about 7 years when i started with the WYSIWYG side.

    Now i just use the text based side. Only because i am familiar with it, it outputs code in colours and also prompts with code options if i forget what i was doing.

    I never set my web pages up as "Sites" is dreamweaver or user the inbuilt FTP

    so if 'Coda' will do all I need it too it might be cheaper than getting Dreamweaver CS3...?
     
  7. epochblue macrumors 68000

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    I doubt it will be able to supplant TextMate in my workflow, really, but since almost everything from Panic is spectacular, it'll definitely get a long, hard look from me.
     
  8. Freg3000 macrumors 68000

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    Cost: $79 (for now, looks to be $99 eventually)

    Hmm...I think that makes it their most expensive app to date.
     
  9. radiantm3 thread starter macrumors 65816

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    It's $69 and $49 for transmit owners. Great price, and awesome app. http://www.panic.com/coda. Definitely worth checking out. It even has code hinting and autocompletion so there's really no more reason for some of you to stick with dreamweaver for that reason. :cool:

    Edit. Oops, I misread the pricing. Either way, it's a good price with all the features it has. :)
     
  10. mnkeybsness macrumors 68030

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    Seriously? I played with this for a while and it feels like Dreamweaver/GoLive without the WYSIWYG editing but with added superfluous effects.

    I'll stick with Textmate/Transmit.
     
  11. apfhex macrumors 68030

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    I've been playing with it too and, in terms of just code editing, it's way nicer than GoLive or Dreamweaver, not to mention WAY faster and less bloated. Plus have you tried the built-in FTP? It's like 10x faster than Transmit (though limited of course). Plus, the reference books are quite handy. Still, I do like some of the abilities of WYSIWYG editors, so I might have to stick with them.
     
  12. radiantm3 thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Playing with it for a bit isn't enough to get a good feeling. It's like the first time you play with textmate. It seems like it has no features. Read through all the features on the site and maybe go through the help doc. It's pretty feature-filled.
     
  13. bld44 macrumors 6502

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    I'm not really impressed- although I was never really impressed with transit either. Not worth the price.

    I'm currently using CyberDuck (FTP) and skEdit (HTML).
     
  14. zim macrumors 65816

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    I a interested in this app.. looks nice, simple. I love panic's other software so I am sure this one is going to be good.

    Most impressed with their use of AJAX on the site.. those javaScript transitions are sick :eek: If coda could assist with stuff like that then they would have an app few could mess with.
     
  15. Daveway macrumors 68040

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    I'm not as impressed as I thought I would be. I think its great from a coding perspective, but leaves much to be desired in the way of WYSIWYG. Some things are just easier done in WYSIWYG (like box sizes).

    Also, there seems to be a lack of javascript in preview.
     
  16. Rower_CPU Moderator emeritus

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    I think the real benefit is the workflow - being able to stay in one window for all your common web dev tasks is fantastic. A live preview in a real browser without having to save changes is great, too.

    Daveway, I'm seeing no issues with DHTML menus in the preview screen. Maybe check the javascript log for errors?
     
  17. tominated macrumors 68000

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    i tried the ftp and i opened a css file with the editor and came up with all this random stuff instead of the css! I think they still need to work the bugs out.
     
  18. Markleshark macrumors 603

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    Looks good. I don't need it, but it's Panic... So guess what... :D
     
  19. CaptainHaddock macrumors 6502

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    Coda looks great, but I've been giving it a go, running into tons of bugs and generally unable to do anything useful with it.

    It is not designed for people who build websites in a local web folder first. I don't know who it is designed for, but I have yet to successfully import a local project and have Coda sync it up like it's advertised to do. :mad:
     
  20. mnkeybsness macrumors 68030

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    I don't like single-window applications. I want to have multiple windows for multiple files so that I can compare, copy, etc.

    Common tasks, yes. But what about development? What about SVN? Multiple browser testing? For those who are smart and develop locally, saving takes just milliseconds plus however long it takes for you to hit CMD+S.
     
  21. Rower_CPU Moderator emeritus

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    CaptainHaddock-
    The local "sync" thing took me a second to figure out - in your sites you need to define your local root and the remote root where it will be published to. Then when you save locally you'll have the "publish all" button pop up at the bottom of the local pane.


    mnkeybsness-
    Fair enough. For my hard core projects I'll still probably use TextMate, but the split-screen view with code side-by-side with the preview window is mighty nice for basic tweaking. All those milliseconds add up...;)
     
  22. kgarner macrumors 68000

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    I played with a bit last night and I was pretty impressed. I still need to figure out a few things, but I like what I am seeing so far. I'll keep playing with it for a bit but I think there might be a purchase in my future.

    Just an FYI for those lamenting the poor WYSIWYG features. It isn't meant to be a WYSIWYG editor. The preview is there to show you live changes to the site as you type them in the editor. As a hand coder, I am absolutely loving that feature.
     
  23. killmoms macrumors 68040

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    Blasphemy. Transmit is far better than CyberDuck. :eek:
     
  24. illustratorDavi macrumors 6502

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    Anybody else struggling to get php pages to preview in the local side ?

    All I get is my php code in black.

    I've turned on web sharing in apple preferences and tried using MAMP but neither work :/

    Thanks
    David
     
  25. Damien macrumors regular

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    If its local then it has a few problems, but you can get round it by making the local root url (in your site preferences) relative to localhost.
     

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