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Panther and Windows?
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The disks are "inexpensive" relative to truly fault-tolerant non-redundant disks. Which has little to nothing to do with the electronic interface.
Although that is somewhat more accurate, it is still misleading in a different way.
It makes it sound like Microsoft is inventing something new when the truth is that they are only updating the VPC product that has been around for several years.
It also makes it sound like users will have to wait for Panther before they can run Windows apps on Macs when you can actually do it now with Jaguar and the current VPC.
So the author improved the accuracy but now he is giving Microsoft way too much credit.
Exactly, but it's "new from Microsoft" in the same way that IE was "new from Microsoft" after they bought it and CD-burning in XP is "new from Microsoft", etc.
If we stripped MS of the right to call their acquisitions new and revolutionary software ... I mean, where would we be then? MS would appear to not innovate, and that just must be wrong, right?
What is so bad about having a virtual pc type program built in? I'd pay for the upgrade if this is real. Maybe I could actually play some games on my mac.
well.. businessweek still seems it made sure to make mention of the capability, and does say that microsoft's vpc /coupled/ with panther "will let corporations run Windows applications on their Macs more smoothly." Are they just saying the emulation software will probably run faster in panther?... or is there some deal between apple and MS going on here?
MSVPC and Panther
There is no way Microsoft would shoot itself in the foot and provide an awesome pc emulation environment for Panther. In fact, this blatant error could only have been true if Apple had bought VPC from Connectix. And I think Apple should have.
Jaedreth
There is no way Microsoft would shoot itself in the foot and provide an awesome pc emulation environment for Panther. In fact, this blatant error could only have been true if Apple had bought VPC from Connectix. And I think Apple should have.
Jaedreth
Xforge is right about the idiocy of the "redefinition."
As for Serial-ATA, they are cheaper than the drives that are defined as inexpensive by RAID. Delving into the origination of RAID, the expensive drives that were replaced by RAID were 10 times (or more) as expensive because the production costs and reliability required special fab plants (remember this is when data density was far below what it is today) and very few companies could afford them. RAID was ingenious in that it did away with the need for these specially made drives and allowed mass market drives to be used for large storage (mirroring was a secondary bonus, striping was the real goal) Still, these mass market drives were expensive (SCSI type), just far cheaper than what was required before and therefore termed inexpensive.
When redefining an acronymn such as a RAID, I always try to look at the converse: does "reduntant array of dependent drives" make sense??? nope. Therefore including the characteristic of the drives being independent is a useless piece of information since all drives would have to be independent. The expensive verses inexpensive characteristic, however, is critical to the item (ie RAIDs.) IMHO, whoever created this new definition is a hack. Most likely he was a lay journalist trying to use technical terms.
(Though I have to disagree with Xforge on the drives being dependent since they are in an array-- one of the beautiful things about RAID is that each drive that is part of the array is independent of its fellow drives and can be replaced as such. You can, however, RAID a RAID system: I guess the true acronymn for this should be RARAID...ok I'm now lost in my own musings and drifting towards Ars Technica...
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Re: MSVPC and Panther
How would microsoft be shooting itself in the foot? It's providing a platform to sell more copies of it's primary income. The Operating system. This way they don't have to care what kind of box it's in. So long as they sell more copies of Windows.
oops I read it wrong I think... Are you trying to say they are providing a place to run OSX within windows? A mac emulator? I thought that Jobs put the stopper in that kind of a thing.
hmm as you just replied to this I got it right the first time.
How would microsoft be shooting itself in the foot? It's providing a platform to sell more copies of it's primary income. The Operating system. This way they don't have to care what kind of box it's in. So long as they sell more copies of Windows.
oops I read it wrong
I think... Are you trying to say they are providing a place to run OSX within windows? A mac emulator? I thought that Jobs put the stopper in that kind of a thing.hmm as you just replied to this I got it right the first time.
Re: MSVPC and Panther
well.. if it wasn't just a big mistake, maybe BusinessWeek was trying to cover up something they shouldn't of said of panther's new features by just saying that you can run windows apps with MS's new emulation software.
So maybe MS wouldn't "shoot itself in the foot", but whatever happened to FWB's new RealPC for OS X after it mysteriously slipped into the darkness? thwarted by microsoft maybe? i don't think anyone knows as of late.
well.. if it wasn't just a big mistake, maybe BusinessWeek was trying to cover up something they shouldn't of said of panther's new features by just saying that you can run windows apps with MS's new emulation software.
So maybe MS wouldn't "shoot itself in the foot", but whatever happened to FWB's new RealPC for OS X after it mysteriously slipped into the darkness? thwarted by microsoft maybe? i don't think anyone knows as of late.
More copies of Windows
Well, good point.
More copies of windows, office, etc.
If it can sell VPC and Windows and Office, score.
Jaedreth
Well, good point.
More copies of windows, office, etc.
If it can sell VPC and Windows and Office, score.
Jaedreth
Re: Possibly
Say that there is the x86 emulation, that still probably wouldn't allow for native Windows or Linux applications to run on top of Mac OS. Think of the software side of things...such as all of those lovely missing DLLs! If a copy of Windows or Linux could be installed on top of the emulation, then perhaps there might be a case.
But it looks to me that someone decided to try and think and screwed up (or reworded themselves very wrongly).
Say that there is the x86 emulation, that still probably wouldn't allow for native Windows or Linux applications to run on top of Mac OS. Think of the software side of things...such as all of those lovely missing DLLs! If a copy of Windows or Linux could be installed on top of the emulation, then perhaps there might be a case.
But it looks to me that someone decided to try and think and screwed up (or reworded themselves very wrongly).
article mistake
Yeah, I noticed that too. As soon as I saw it, I IMed the macrumors dude ("chaosmint") and then posted some comments here and on the iCity rumor site. What a bozo mistake to make. I'm disappointed at the way Macrumors skewed this article. It's makes a big difference in the meaning when you leave part of a quote out!
Yeah, I noticed that too. As soon as I saw it, I IMed the macrumors dude ("chaosmint") and then posted some comments here and on the iCity rumor site. What a bozo mistake to make. I'm disappointed at the way Macrumors skewed this article. It's makes a big difference in the meaning when you leave part of a quote out!
You guys EDITED THE QUOTE
It mentions emulation software? How about Virtual PC bundles - come on - don't spread crappy rumors and rewrite paragraphs!
Next, Apple's newest version of OS X, called Panther -- which is scheduled to debut later this year -- coupled with new emulation software from Microsoft (MSFT ) will let corporations run Windows applications on their Macs more smoothly. That's a major plus, considering that nearly all companies use Windows.
It mentions emulation software? How about Virtual PC bundles - come on - don't spread crappy rumors and rewrite paragraphs!
Next, Apple's newest version of OS X, called Panther -- which is scheduled to debut later this year -- coupled with new emulation software from Microsoft (MSFT ) will let corporations run Windows applications on their Macs more smoothly. That's a major plus, considering that nearly all companies use Windows.
Re: You guys EDITED THE QUOTE
The site EDITED THER QUOTE!!1!!1! OMG WTF LOL when it was brought to their attention that they screwed up. MacRumors reported the original report, and it appears that Arn has not yet acknowledged that it has changed.
Wow. way to read the rest of the posts. Good job, big guy.
The site EDITED THER QUOTE!!1!!1! OMG WTF LOL when it was brought to their attention that they screwed up. MacRumors reported the original report, and it appears that Arn has not yet acknowledged that it has changed.
lilblueimac
agentfive
Pay attention. BusinessWeek edited their own article after noticing the blatant error they made. What you read was a NEW paragraph.
agentfive
Pay attention. BusinessWeek edited their own article after noticing the blatant error they made. What you read was a NEW paragraph.
No. You just have to add an emulator first (e.g. bochs).
http://darwine.sourceforge.net/project.html