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Just received a ransom notes from Parallel that Maverick won't work with Parallel 7. Never again :mad:.

"URGENT SERVICE NOTIFICATION FOR PARALLELS DESKTOP 7 FOR MAC USERS:
If you intend to upgrade to the upcoming Mac OS X Mavericks (10.9), please note that Parallels Desktop 7 for Mac will not support OS X Mavericks (10.9). You will not be able to launch your Windows virtual machine or directly use your files through Parallels Desktop 7.

Before you install OS X Mavericks; upgrade to Parallels Desktop 9 for Mac, as it is the only version available today ready for Mavericks.

Upgrade to Parallels Desktop 9 for Mac"

Got that message as well; it's always the same crap: "we are sorry but only Parallels X will support the latest version of OS X."

I am glad I got Parallels as a minor part of a certain bundle and have never really used it (couldn't care less about Windows anyway) - in the extreme case I will go with VirtualBox.

A recurring abusive commercial practice that should result in jailtime for those guys.

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Oh, **** with your stupid sheep comment. I understand how the free market works, but I also understand that a few people bitching that their 2+ year old software isn't compatible with the latest OS and pledging not to spend another $29 isn't going to do ****.

I don't have or use any virtualization software, I'm just tired of cheap people not willing to pay people for their work.

Drop the BS, please - Parallels had exactly the same message when ML came out, for no legitimate reason - there are only two excuses for that: laziness or greed. Pick one.

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Parallels 7 is two versions old now, 8 and 9 will work with Mavericks. Its not reasonable to expect developers to go back and make older versions compatible with new operating systems.

Read the message again - ONLY version 9 "works" with Mavericks.
 
So Parallels 7 is now two versions old. It works fine on even the presently-current version of OS X. It will not work on the about-to-be-released version of OS X.

Similarly, VMWare Fusion 4 is two versions old. It doesn't even work fine on the current version of OS X, much less Mavericks. VMWare Fusion 5 'sort of' works on Mavericks, but won't be officially supported.

Why do people think software companies should offer support for two-version-old versions of their software in perpetuity?

The problem is not just Parallels 7, but Parallels 8 as well. The only version that works with OS X 10.9 is Parallels 9, which was released on August 29. So, anybody that purchased Parallels 8 (released one year earlier), is also out of luck. IMO, Parallels is abusing their customers by this: I'd understand there are short term limitations on the VMs or OS you can run (e.g. Windows 8), but limiting the OS X version it can run on, hence forcing everybody to pay up 50US to upgrade, borders on a ransom strategy.
 
I didn't see the message until after I upgraded to Mavericks.

Now I have no idea how I will retrieve the data on the windows drive without paying the company.

this is not the first time this company has done this - as far as I am concerned they are scammers and they won't get another cent from me.
 
I didn't see the message until after I upgraded to Mavericks.

Now I have no idea how I will retrieve the data on the windows drive without paying the company.

this is not the first time this company has done this - as far as I am concerned they are scammers and they won't get another cent from me.

I received an email from them regarding ver 7 incompatibility with Maverick. Always a good idea to check for such problems before upgrading.
 
I think it is a balance between customer satisfaction through good after sales support and affordable upgrades and generating revenue. I certainly think $55 for an upgrade is steep considering desktop 9 cost $90. I have only had this software for 1.5 years and I do feel ripped off everytime i get these annoying email messages to tell you, you can't get OS mavericks unless you pay for the upgrade. It just generates bad vibes in your existing customers. I won't be upgrading for sure and I am glad there are alternatives out there and will certainly look into that.
 
The problem is not just Parallels 7, but Parallels 8 as well. The only version that works with OS X 10.9 is Parallels 9, which was released on August 29. So, anybody that purchased Parallels 8 (released one year earlier), is also out of luck. IMO, Parallels is abusing their customers by this: I'd understand there are short term limitations on the VMs or OS you can run (e.g. Windows 8), but limiting the OS X version it can run on, hence forcing everybody to pay up 50US to upgrade, borders on a ransom strategy.

My Parallels 8 works 100% with Maverick. I will upgrade to 9 next month once any problems have been fixed. The cost is cheap to keep my computer up to date now Maverick is free.:cool:
 
My Parallels 8 works 100% with Maverick. I will upgrade to 9 next month once any problems have been fixed. The cost is cheap to keep my computer up to date now Maverick is free.:cool:

That's great, that v8 works. I got an email some months ago stating that only Parallels 9 would run on Mavericks. Now I read they recently put out an update to solve this for v8. I guess they realized that extorting another update from their customers was too much, and updated it for OS X 10.9.

Personally, I've been a loyal Parallels customer since v3, and it's always the same story - almost every year, buy a new version if you want to keep on working - or avoid updating OS X; $50 bucks a pop, making it a very expensive utility sw. The ones that are more expensive (Adobe, Final Cut, Logic, Office) are pro apps, and seem to have a longer life span once you pay for them.

Currently I'm testing the new version of Oracle's virtualbox, which is free. So far, it works flawlessly. Granted the UI is not as nice, but zero problems, and $50-$70 USD cheaper than VMWare or Parallels. I'm not a gamer or heavy duty windows/linux user, so I don't see any difference in performance... so far so good. If I run into any problems, I'll switch to VMWare, or update Parallels... but I'm a bit tired of this story repeating itself so often. A virtualization SW is a means to an end - a simple utility that shouldn't be so complicated, IMO.

cheers!
 
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Got that message as well; it's always the same crap: "we are sorry but only Parallels X will support the latest version of OS X."

I am glad I got Parallels as a minor part of a certain bundle and have never really used it (couldn't care less about Windows anyway) - in the extreme case I will go with VirtualBox.

A recurring abusive commercial practice that should result in jailtime for those guys.

Wow jail time huh? just because they won't make an existing product that came out years ago BACKWARDS compatible with a new product that came out this month? Something tells me you haven't run a business before. :rolleyes:
 
A recurring abusive commercial practice that should result in jailtime for those guys.

Dude... chill out! I agree it's abusive. But jail time? Not gonna happen. Just don't buy this sw, use virtualbox or bootcamp, and settle for them being fired for lack of sales and market share.

I and also agree, the bundle thing, where it comes way cheaper as part of a bundle, or given away with new computers, makes me wonder about their pricing strategy: the $70 retail may be worth it... but the $50 (yearly) upgrade is clearly a racket, specially once they have you hooked.

IMO, nowadays virtualization sw is not as important for the common users - Mac compatibility has gotten way better, people are not as afraid about switching to mac, users are better informed and help is more available... plus for heavy duty usage, we've got bootcamp.... so,

So long Parallels!
 
Get real!

I'm with the "if you want it then pay for it" side of this argument - Parallels is good and, while I need and/or want it I will pay for it. Nobody should be surprised at Parallels grabbing what they can - they have done it for some time now. If only there was a way of finding out information like this, maybe some way of searching, perhaps you'd call it a search engine.

As a parting shot even I balked at the pricing for Parallels Access iPad app - until I found I was using it several times a day - I wanted it so I paid for if.
 
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Parallels doesn't say that ver. 8 doesn't work with Mavericks, that restriction only applies to ver. 7. Parallels 8 works with OS X 10.9, but they do suggest updating to ver 8.0.18608.898384 for full compatibility, if you don't already have that version.

When ML was released, Parallels similarly released a compatibility update for ver. 7. It's all explained in the Parallels forums.
 
I think it is a balance between customer satisfaction through good after sales support and affordable upgrades and generating revenue. I certainly think $55 for an upgrade is steep considering desktop 9 cost $90. I have only had this software for 1.5 years and I do feel ripped off everytime i get these annoying email messages to tell you, you can't get OS mavericks unless you pay for the upgrade. It just generates bad vibes in your existing customers. I won't be upgrading for sure and I am glad there are alternatives out there and will certainly look into that.
Well said. This is my perspective as well. Parallels absolutely has every right to continue the model they've been using, but they'll get some blowback in terms of unhappy customers, and just as us customers will either need to "pay up" or look for alternatives, they too will "pay up" a bit by dealing with the negative feedback.

I've participated in a thread in their forums over the past week. My suggestion to them was to offer a more affordable upgrade price. I use PD7 for Windows 7, and I primarily use it for VPN / Remote Desktop for a couple of clients I support. And I don't do that very often. So, for me, a $50 upgrade to prevent their software from "breaking" (which is the end result), seems steep.

Now, is the amount of time it would take me to download, install, and figure out VirtualBox, plus reinstalling Windows 7 and reconfiguring my VPN / Remote Desktop stuff going to cost me more than that $50? Yes, but I'm still tempted to go that route simply to have the satisfaction of not giving them my $50. I am not "entitled" to anything, but I've found their attitude to be "smug" in this case, and I've noticed that they've started replying to negative reviews on Amazon to try to counter the negative coverage, while not providing any official response in their forums which suggests the least bit of a desire to delight their customers. All they would need to do to keep me is offer a better upgrade price (even just to get up to PD8, since that supposedly offers more limited support for Mavericks).

They have a customer-unfriendly model, IMO. This is demonstrated by the following:
- They effectively sell their software as a service. Upgrade for $50 every 2 years (so, $25/year) or it effectively stops working with that 2nd year's Mac OS upgrade. This would be more acceptable if they actually advertised it this way, but they instead pretend that you're buying a standalone product.
- An iPad app that is sold as an outright service, thereby circumventing the standard iOS app purchase policy which enables you to install iOS software on multiple iOS devices you own.
- The inability to install Parallels Desktop on multiple Macs in your house.
- Rather than seeing the fact that the just-released Mavericks would cause a lot of their customers to be stuck, and proactively offering the upgrade at a steeper discount, they instead seem to be looking at it as a great opportunity to score an easy $50 off of a lot of their existing client base who otherwise were perfectly content running PD7.

I've waited it out this past week to see if their position would change at all, but they haven't budged yet, and I really want to install Mavericks, so I think I'll move onto phase 2 and upgrade to Mavericks, and either go through the effort of installing VirtualBox, or wait that side of it out a bit longer and just use my 2nd computer for the Windows 7 functionality I need. Maybe after there's a larger backlash they'll adjust their position. Maybe not. If not, I'll likely switch to VirtualBox. Some other unhappy customers might even search for cracked versions of their software online. The bottom line is that the free market will sort it out. They shouldn't be "forced" to do anything, but market pressure will either push them in a more positive direction, or they'll lose some sales, which they may be perfectly OK with, and that's their prerogative, too. But online forums (here, their forums, and the review system on Amazon) is a great way to express displeasure/feedback to a company and participate in and influence the free market.
 
A recurring abusive commercial practice that should result in jailtime for those guys.
As if my last reply wasn't already long-winded enough, I do feel the need to reply to this. Jail time? Seriously? So you think a person should be put in jail if they don't sell their software for whatever arbitrary price someone else thinks is "fair"? If you don't like their policy/price, you have several options: You can use an alternative (see VirtualBox), you can complain vociferously to their company, you can post negative reviews online (e.g., Amazon) and spread a lot of negative feedback about their company to whomever will listen. You can wait and/or shop around to look for a better deal on their software (there were a couple of online stores selling PD8 with a free PD9 upgrade recently for $30 or something, but I found out about it too late and the deal is now dead). You can even opt to look for a cracked version of their software online, and even be so bold as to let them know that you've chosen to do that rather than support what you consider to be unacceptable pricing. You'll want to be careful with that last approach, since you'd be breaking some man-made laws there, and black-market software (and websites that host that software) can have issues which infect your computer.

But threatening violence (e.g., jail time) to force someone to do what you want? That's completely unacceptable.
 
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Given that the "upgrade" is 49 on up, it might not be a bad idea to switch to another virtual. Parallels 7 should have a non-version upgrade for free or just a couple of dollars to work with 10.9. I am sure some will disagree but for me, it is more the principle of various software makers squeezing more out of the average user.

Agreed. This is totally ridiculous. I am going to switch mine over to fixed size drives, and use VirtualBox with them (VirtualBox can't handle Parallels' dyanmic drive sizing). I will never buy anything from Parallels again, and I'm still pissed at them for now delying my upgrade to Mavericks, as I have to goof around with several VMs before I can upgrade and say ADIOS to Parallels forever.

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As if my last reply wasn't already long-winded enough, I do feel the need to reply to this. Jail time? Seriously? So you think a person should be put in jail if they don't sell their software for whatever arbitrary price someone else thinks is "fair"? If you don't like their policy/price, you have several options: You can use an alternative (see VirtualBox), you can complain vociferously to their company, you can post negative reviews online (e.g., Amazon) and spread a lot of negative feedback about their company to whomever will listen. You can wait and/or shop around to look for a better deal on their software (there were a couple of online stores selling PD8 with a free PD9 upgrade recently for $30 or something, but I found out about it too late and the deal is now dead). You can even opt to look for a cracked version of their software online, and even be so bold as to let them know that you've chosen to do that rather than support what you consider to be unacceptable pricing. You'll want to be careful with that last approach, since you'd be breaking some man-made laws there, and black-market software (and websites that host that software) can have issues which infect your computer.

But threatening violence (e.g., jail time) to force someone to do what you want? That's completely unacceptable.

It's definitely not a criminal offense. Class action lawsuit would be an appropriate option, although with the US's weak consumer protection laws, I'm not sure what law would cover you.

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I'm with the "if you want it then pay for it" side of this argument - Parallels is good and, while I need and/or want it I will pay for it. Nobody should be surprised at Parallels grabbing what they can - they have done it for some time now. If only there was a way of finding out information like this, maybe some way of searching, perhaps you'd call it a search engine.

As a parting shot even I balked at the pricing for Parallels Access iPad app - until I found I was using it several times a day - I wanted it so I paid for if.

If you want to take the free market approach, then NO ONE should buy ANYTHING from them EVER AGAIN. They are trying to extort us, and that's not an ethical business practice.
 
I switched over to VMWare Fusion. VirtualBox is a mess. I had used it previously, but I couldn't get it to work with my WinXP and Win7 VMs. The Win7 one was just crashing. Since VMWare is the intermediary you can use to get a Parallels VM to VirtualBox, and they use an open format (I think they made it up and then published the spec), I switched to them. Bye-bye Parallels! Now once I clean a few things up, I should be ready to upgrade to Mavericks! Finally!
 
Mavericks & Parallels 9

I wanted to upgrade to Mavericks so I took the plunge and upgraded to Parallels 9. WHAT A MISTAKE! Not only am I not impressed with Mavericks but Parallels 9 totally screwed up my Windows 7 installation. Now my emulated copy of Windows is not genuine. My Bootcamp native copy is still OK. Tried to re-enter product key as Parallels suggests but that wouldn't work. Next I called Microsoft and explained the situation. They told me that the only way was to re-install Windows. Finally downgraded back to Lion & P7 which had always worked fine. Windows is still not genuine which I totally blame on Parallels. They should have figured out the Windows activation issues by now. Getting a refund on P9.
 
Wtf

I wanted to upgrade to Mavericks so I took the plunge and upgraded to Parallels 9. WHAT A MISTAKE! Not only am I not impressed with Mavericks but Parallels 9 totally screwed up my Windows 7 installation. Now my emulated copy of Windows is not genuine. My Bootcamp native copy is still OK. Tried to re-enter product key as Parallels suggests but that wouldn't work. Next I called Microsoft and explained the situation. They told me that the only way was to re-install Windows. Finally downgraded back to Lion & P7 which had always worked fine. Windows is still not genuine which I totally blame on Parallels. They should have figured out the Windows activation issues by now. Getting a refund on P9.
Wait - you have tried this on 2 different versions of Parallels and 2 different version of OS X and the Windows not working isn't a Microsoft problem?

For the record my Win7 and Win8 installations both work just as well under Parallels 9 and Mavericks as they did before. I don't like to be completely negative though - have you updated Parallels Tools?
 
If you don't want to pay for a Parallels upgrade then don't upgrade to Mavericks. Simple enough. Lots of apps have problems with OS upgrades. While their upgrade price is a little high, you still have choices.
Well, it's not because the upgrade costs too much that we must just be quiet. Abnormal things should be criticised, not just disregarded.
 
I think it is a balance between customer satisfaction through good after sales support and affordable upgrades and generating revenue. I certainly think $55 for an upgrade is steep considering desktop 9 cost $90. I have only had this software for 1.5 years and I do feel ripped off everytime i get these annoying email messages to tell you, you can't get OS mavericks unless you pay for the upgrade. It just generates bad vibes in your existing customers. I won't be upgrading for sure and I am glad there are alternatives out there and will certainly look into that.
Like you, I'm not going to pay for this update (I'll install 10.9 for occasional testing purposes, not worth paying this expensive update!). By only reading in this forum, we see several guys are doing the same.
Now, I'll try to install 10.9 on VirtualBox. Of course, it's worse to have two virtualisation apps instead of one. And VirtualBox VMs I had installed in the past (for Mac OS 10.4, 10.5 and 10.6) have almost always got corrupted and couldn't start at some point (VirtualBox then telling non-decipherable error codes and such…). Be warned: VirtualBox can easily be less stable than Parallels Desktop, but it doesn't matter as, at least, the former doesn't make you paying so much for just a regular update!

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Something tells me you haven't run a business before. :rolleyes:
That would be fortunate.
 
I have been using Parallels 9.x with Mavericks for some time. Today, I got a pop up from Parallels upon start saying there is an error and I need to update Parallels. In short I got locked out of Parallels until I paid the ransom to upgrade to version 10. I have 3 applications that run only under Windows and needed two of them for a project.

This will be my last payment for Parallels. I'll continue on with VMware Fusion in the future. I have an old copy and wont mind paying a one time upgrade to get back into the mix.

I'll be writing to the folks that make Parallels and let them know of my decision and also will not be recommending (anymore) to friends who are switching over to Mac and want to keep their Windows in a virtual from their old PC or some of the applications.

Shame on you Parallels.
 
I have been using Parallels 9.x with Mavericks for some time. Today, I got a pop up from Parallels upon start saying there is an error and I need to update Parallels. In short I got locked out of Parallels until I paid the ransom to upgrade to version 10. I have 3 applications that run only under Windows and needed two of them for a project.

I'll be writing to the folks that make Parallels and let them know of my decision and also will not be recommending (anymore) to friends who are switching over to Mac and want to keep their Windows in a virtual from their old PC or some of the applications.

Shame on you Parallels.

Wow, that's really surprising! What does the error tell you? They have no right to force you to stop using a version you have paid for! They are really abusing their “position”.
 
Wow, that's really surprising! What does the error tell you? They have no right to force you to stop using a version you have paid for! They are really abusing their “position”.

First I'll say that I used Parallels just a few days ago as usual with no pop up message. The message appeared out of no where and if I can recall it made mention that there is an error, and something about OSX upgrade incompatible, and resolution is to upgrade Parallels.

I have been using Mavericks for many months with zero issues. The upgrade to Parallels 10 'miraculously' (sarcastic here) solved the problem. Again, this is my last time putting coins into their pocket. I'll return to VMware Fusion which to me for my purposes works equally as well.

If you notice many people who have posted in this particular thread were faced in the past with similar challenges like I had and equally disgusted at the implication of the only fix will cost money.
 
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