Parallels 16.5 Can Virtualize ARM Windows Natively on M1 Macs With Up to 30% Faster Performance

[JosephAW]

There currently isn’t any way to do that. There is a development version of Linux that runs off a USB stick with no GUI but that is as close as you will get right now. The people working on Linux on Apple silicon are making good progress but they are a long way from a usable system. There is no one working on getting Windows working natively on Apple silicon that I’m aware of.

Looking forward for moving my Linux servers from Intel to M1. Main problem is large sql databases. Waiting for 64gb M1.

 

[Jaro65]

I can't seem to get the installer to run for Visio. Did you get it to work? I get a vague error "Something went wrong" when trying to install Visio 2019 and Project 2019 on the latest Parallels running on a brand new Mac Pro M1 laptop. I was able to install Visual Studio 2019 and MS Office 365 including Word, Excel, PowerPoint, etc...

Can you please share if you were in the end able to install Project 2019 and Visio 2019 on your M1 laptop? Also, I'm assuming you're using the ARM version of Windows 10 through Parallels?

 

[talbott]

Can you please share if you were in the end able to install Project 2019 and Visio 2019 on your M1 laptop? Also, I'm assuming you're using the ARM version of Windows 10 through Parallels?

Your assumptions are correct. I just tried again. Unsuccessful installing either Project 2019 or Visio 2019 on my Win 11 through Parallels on my MacBook Pro M1 laptop.

 

[RumorConsumer]

Your assumptions are correct. I just tried again. Unsuccessful installing either Project 2019 or Visio 2019 on my Win 11 through Parallels on my MacBook Pro M1 laptop.

What’s the current state of the union here? If one wants to run basic windows apps is there something less intense than a VM?

 

[Jaro65]

Your assumptions are correct. I just tried again. Unsuccessful installing either Project 2019 or Visio 2019 on my Win 11 through Parallels on my MacBook Pro M1 laptop.

Thank you. I currently have an MBP 14 ordered. Right now I'm using MBP 13 (2019) and MBP 15 (2018). If I can't run the Project and Visio on MBP 14, I may need to delay my jump to M1. It is surprising that 1 year into the M1 transition we still don't have a working solution. We must be in a real minority as far as our requirement/expectation goes.

 

[jdb8167]

What’s the current state of the union here? If one wants to run basic windows apps is there something less intense than a VM?

The only alternative would be Crossover.

 

[talbott]

What’s the current state of the union here? If one wants to run basic windows apps is there something less intense than a VM?

I think you need an Intel based Mac or a Windows PC. The M1 has limitations right now. It is great if you are 100% Mac or only need basic Windows apps.

 

[RumorConsumer]

I think you need an Intel based Mac or a Windows PC. The M1 has limitations right now. It is great if you are 100% Mac or only need basic Windows apps.

yeah it would be basic, DOS even actually for an aging friend of mine. Would WINE or something like that likely work?

 

[georgelza]

so some months later, whats the newest status, option to run Visio on the M1 based MBP? (with MS Win on Parallels)
(I found a option to run Visio inside a browser... not sure how I will use my stencils)
G

 

[bobcomer]

Can someone explain why it's impossible to emulate x86 on an M1 processor? VirtualPC was able to do it on a PowerPC processor.

It's definitely not impossible, but only UTM/QEMU does it. (but not very well!)

None of the commercial offerings offer true emulation. (yet, hopefully)

 

[bobcomer]

For many the Linux part of the story will be a big deal (as a dev I need to run Linux in a VM). It’ll be interesting to see how memory and speed hold up on my MBA (I use a Linux vm on my 64GB MBP... so far the M1 MBA has been comparable with other dev tools, but this will push it hard)

Expect a lot of heat and throttling. I got rid of my M1 MBA because it couldn't handle VM's very well. It'll work though, as long as you're patient.

 

[bobcomer]

Windows 10 ARM will only execute x86 apps from the Windows store.

Not correct, it'll run most desktop apps as well. No need to go through the store.

 

[joecomo]

so some months later, whats the newest status, option to run Visio on the M1 based MBP? (with MS Win on Parallels)
(I found a option to run Visio inside a browser... not sure how I will use my stencils)
G

the status is (and has been for the last year) that Visio runs absolutely fine in Windows11 Arm on Parallels (I am running the x64 version).
For Word etc. there are ARM native versions since some time - Visio and project remain intel only.

 

[joecomo]

yeah it would be basic, DOS even actually for an aging friend of mine. Would WINE or something like that likely work?

yes - for old stuff crossover is a good option.
Running a Win16 app, that wouldn’t run on Windows for quite some time

 

[joecomo]

Your assumptions are correct. I just tried again. Unsuccessful installing either Project 2019 or Visio 2019 on my Win 11 through Parallels on my MacBook Pro M1 laptop.

strange - I have it all running since long:
Office Apps as ARM native and project and vision as emulated x64 apps. Works very well.

 

[joecomo]

Can Windows 10 ARM through Parallels on the M1 run Microsoft Visio 2019 edition?

yes

 

[joecomo]

Can someone explain why it's impossible to emulate x86 on an M1 processor? VirtualPC was able to do it on a PowerPC processor.

UTM does it - but it is slow. Some stuff like XP 64 works ok - Win2k is even fast.
Win7 is usable at the limit