Parallels Desktop 13 for Mac Comes With High Sierra Support and Touch Bar Integration

[Zirel]

That moment you look at the mac UI with the windows UI nested inside of it and realise you'd rather look at windows

What a joke!

No, I don't want to look at ugly fonts, ugly spacing, inconsistent UI's, random white space, etc.

And the cherry on top of the cake: low-dpi interfaces, even on the OS itself!

Bonus: something went wrong, I'm not even kidding:

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

And the moment I see people using Windows in a VM on a Mac to get their work done, it always becomes so obvious that even in 2017, the Mac - just like a Linux system - isn't able to fully replace a Windows desktop. There's always some work-related software missing.

And yet, thread after thread about future Macs almost always have 5+ guys posting how much they hope Apple will adopt the AX processors and jettison Intel.

 

[Zirel]

Sometimes I wish Apple would slow down the new version releases so these companies didn't have an excuse for the annual upgrade shakedown.

But I'm using Parallels 12 on High Sierra right now, and there are no problems whatsoever...
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And yet, thread after thread about future Macs almost always have 5+ guys posting how much they hope Apple will adopt the AX processors and jettison Intel.

You don't need a x86 processor to run Windows or x86 code. Microsoft wants to sell even cheaper laptops, they are working with Qualcomm to make Windows x86 apps run on Qualcomm ARM processors.

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

But then you do need a Rosetta- equivalent and, best I know, there is no such thing.

 

[theluggage]

Parallels and Vmware have become the Mac's yearly tax.

I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that you need to upgrade from Parallels 12 to 13 for High Sierra just yet (especially if you don't want to run HS as a guest OS) - the wording on the Parallels website is "Optimized for macOS High Sierra" - and there are notes on the knowledge base about running Parallels 12 on HS Beta - and some reports of success in earlier threads here. My guess is that Parallels 11 will be the one to barf on High Sierra.

We'll see when HS is actually released... If Parallels 12 waves the white flag then I stand corrected.

I've been using Parallels for years and, usually, there's been at 2 major MacOS releases between forced upgrades - not saying I'm deliriously happy about the forced upgrade (or the subscription model for the pro version) but its not quite as bad as some people make out.

Also, nobody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to upgrade to High Sierra on day one. Dumb idea. (The early worm gets the bird, the second mouse gets the tree etc.) For most people, it will be a couple of years before it becomes a big issue. I only upgraded my work machine from 10.10 to 10.12 a few weeks ago...

 

[Dimka]

All those extra features are very misleading. I wish they'd stop adding features that are not directly related to the primary purpose of the application.
In a way it's insulting, that instead of making smaller, simpler, more reliable application, with smaller price they waste resources on the things that all the professionals that might use virtual machines already know how to do.

 

[ivan86]

I hear theres a good windows accountancy program from Ukraine

Seriously though, there are Mac accountancy and (depending on country) tax software around. I think Quicken is back in the mac market, then there Monkey Business and others. However it depends to a large extent on what you need to do and willingness to adapt to a different work flow. I see your in Berlin, give the business team at Apple Kurfürstendamm 26 a call 030 590 090 000 they can help for sure if its business related.

The accountancy app I use is from russian developers (keepsoft) and it works great for keeping track of finances between various projects when multiple companies are involved. It does it for me and some of my colleagues, so not planning a shift (would be awesome if one day macOS version is released though).

Tax app is ElsterFormular - probably the most well known app in Germany for making and submitting tax reports. There is one alternative app out there, which is also on macOS, but I never really felt like making the shift for various reasons.

Overall, I have reached the point where I am perfectly happy with my Windows use which is slim to none. It is fun sometimes to run it though, you know, to satisfy the internal geek. Sometimes I even run the VM, update the OS and turn it straight off.

 

[johnlnash]

Is anyone that's upgraded having issues in coherence at all? I'm noticing a lot of lag when typing.

 

[zone23]

How does this company continue to stay in business with these lack luster upgrades, and extremely high prices, every year? Just amazed! Are they not blind to what users are saying about these weak upgrades?

Well wait are we talking about Apple or Parallels? I kind of lost track..

 

[batchtaster]

That moment you look at the mac UI with the windows UI nested inside of it and realise you'd rather look at windows

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We manage over 8000 workstations. Because of how much work every single damn Windows 10 release is to deploy and manage (vs macOS: swap out a 10.11 OS package, swap in a 10.12 OS package, done), and because of their release cadence, I spend a lot more time in Windows than I used to, and it is never anything less than a relief to get back to pure Mac. Windows' Control Panel vs Settings app is just plain stupid. Getting anywhere in the filesystem browser is a PITA. The Search box regularly doesn't find things that are exactly right there in the Start menu and offers web search instead. The pure junk-drawer of right-clicking the Start menu (Win+X). The ripped off Notification Center Action Center. The lack of QuickLook functionality.

It seems like these virtualization apps have sort of run out of ideas if they're jamming in video and GIF converters and other bloat. The core functionality - virtualize an OS - was sorted out years ago. Since then it's just been more window-dressing, with host OS compatibility sprinkled through.

 

[eventailapp]

But I'm using Parallels 12 on High Sierra right now, and there are no problems whatsoever...
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You don't need a x86 processor to run Windows or x86 code. Microsoft wants to sell even cheaper laptops, they are working with Qualcomm to make Windows x86 apps run on Qualcomm ARM processors.

Except that this version of windows will not be able to run the applications that people currently use the VMs for. Only new and recompiled applications will work, the legacy stuff most people need still requires x86 or emulation.

 

[Fall Under Cerulean Kites]

I use ||s to run one specific app at work. I don’t mind paying to upgrade if there’s a need to do so prompted by a major change in the OS. Did High Sierra change so drastically that Parallels 12 could no longer function? If so, and a major re-write was required of Parallels, necessiting a new major version release, then I’m fine with paying that. What I’m not fine with is a yearly release just to garner revenue, under the guise of “Oh, we have to support the new OS!” with a handfull of “features” and “performance enhancements” tossed in.
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We manage over 8000 workstations. Because of how much work every single damn Windows 10 release is to deploy and manage (vs macOS: swap out a 10.11 OS package, swap in a 10.12 OS package, done), and because of their release cadence, I spend a lot more time in Windows than I used to, and it is never anything less than a relief to get back to pure Mac.

Amen. I’ve been a PC user for longer than many of you have been alive. I’ve used windows since v3.0, and only recently saw the light. 3 years ago, I switched over to macOS and couldn’t be happier. It pains me when I have to go back to Windows to do something. It’s truly a garbage OS. I spent so many years playing with alternative OSs, mostly Linux and BSD because I felt there was just something better - I just didnt’ know what it is. Then OS X comes into my life. A *nix OS with functional GUI and plenty of software support?! YES! No compiling and rolling my own drivers or trying to find a decent GUI (Linux), no more limited software support (BSD), and no more crappy GUI, viruses, limited command line support (Windows).

 

[Marx55]

Unfortunately, Parallels Desktop fails when controlling machines via USB from Windows on Mac. VMware Fusion does it right!

 

[Cloudane]

Dammit I only bought the previous version a month or so ago. Oh well that's how it goes.

 

[justperry]

Snip...
OS X, or whatever it's called now, is OK. I wish they'd get rid of the title bars though at the top of the screen and put everything back into the dock and program spaces. The bar at the top was great in 1984. Now, not so much, especially on a big screen.

No, just NO, it's not windows, and btw, as others have said, you can hide the Menu Bar.

 

[dan9700]

I brought it but it wont find my bootcamp so cant use it what the hell

 

[johnlnash]

Dammit I only bought the previous version a month or so ago. Oh well that's how it goes.

You should get a free upgrade

 

[MiamiC70]

I'm currently running Bootcamp on a mid 2001 i7 MacBook Air w/ 4GB ram and 256SSD. Do you guys think I can run this on that machine effectively? I barely use the Windows 10 Bootcamp at this point but I'm do need to have a Windows 10 machine around for work "just in case".

 

[wbeasley]

Every time theres a new macos they change again why cant they just do free upgrade to existing users

annual. revenue. stream.

have used Windows on both emulators. slow boot, resource hogs. little reason to use Windows software anymore. Had some old Win software. easier and cheaper just to keep an old laptop just for that software. and stay offline to keep viruses at bay.

for those who run games, surely a standalone Windows machine would also make more sense. Hardware is dirt cheap these days (for cheap Windows machines at least). Save yourself all the hassle and just get a off the shelf solution to keep you going for a few years. gotta be cheaper than buying Parallels or VM Ware every year and probably a smoother runtime experience.

 

[Zirel]

Except that this version of windows will not be able to run the applications that people currently use the VMs for. Only new and recompiled applications will work, the legacy stuff most people need still requires x86 or emulation.

So they will be able to run those Apps, as far as the user is concerned.

 

[Aston441]

No, just NO, it's not windows, and btw, as others have said, you can hide the Menu Bar.

 

[v1597psh]

Upgraded form version 11. Worth of every penny I paid with student discount!

 

[HermanMunster]

How does this company continue to stay in business with these lack luster upgrades, and extremely high prices, every year? Just amazed! Are they not blind to what users are saying about these weak upgrades?

People's opinions expressed in online forums are irrelevant. What they do with their money is what counts.

 

[Cloudane]

You should get a free upgrade

Don't believe so unfortunately as I have the student version

 

[barthrh]

I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that you need to upgrade from Parallels 12 to 13 for High Sierra just yet (especially if you don't want to run HS as a guest OS) - the wording on the Parallels website is "Optimized for macOS High Sierra" - and there are notes on the knowledge base about running Parallels 12 on HS Beta - and some reports of success in earlier threads here. My guess is that Parallels 11 will be the one to barf on High Sierra.

Precisely. You can often go 2 to 3 years on a version of Parallels. That said, the one-license-per-Mac model may push me to VMWare if an upgrade is required. Given the benefits added in new releases (i.e. not many, they need to create gif-makers to show "value") they should really drop the upgrade price.

My usual strategy is to wait for it to be bundled with other value-added stuff (e.g. PocketPremium, 1Password for Families, etc) at the same price as a Parallels-only upgrade. This usually happens by December.