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Recently, a lot of posts (including mine!) warned against attempting to run virtualized Windows and Linux on a base Mini M1. The truth is, that is quite feasible and I'd like to share my experience on that.

1. I have installed Parallels Desktop 18.01 on a base Mini M1 running Ventura 13.3; there is a more recent Parallels version and I intend to install it sometime later.
2. Not all Linux distros are ready for ARM machines, so I accepted the Ubuntu 22.04 offered by Parallels; there are some more offers, but I decided to start with a Debian-based distro.
3. The installation went without problems with some adjustments needed, but I happen to have quite some experience in running Linux or Windows as a VM on Parallels.
4. For maximum performance, I chose to keep the VM folder in the internal SSD. I assigned 2GB RAM and 2 CPUs, as recommended. Parallels 18 has a nice new feature: The user can choose how much of the OS native sources' will be used by the VM. I chose the full scale and I haven't regretted it. I also set the screen to "Full Window" on a 24" monitor. Nicely run!
5. For Windows 11, as far as I know, there is some sort of agreement between Microsoft and Parallels. The latter offers to download an iso file and install Windows 11 through it. Again, I chose "full sources" and the VM installed in the SSD; however, for RAM, CPU, etc., Parallels makes its own choice for optimum performance and I accepted it. Of course, Windows 11 will need a license key, but that doesn't prevent its current use.
6. At the same time, I run other Mac applications like a couple of browsers, Acrobat, music from VOX plus a booster, but no MS Office apps or photo editing. They may run concurrently alight, but in general, I avoid having too many apps running. Anyway, no noticeable delays; so far so good, then.
7. I doubt I could have done sth similar with a base Mini 2014, but I'll give it a try in the future. I expect the issue won't be the i5 2-core CPU, but the 8GB RAM and its Fusion disk. (I run Parallel VMs from external disks, too, but that's with a lot of RAM on MPs).

I hope that will be of help to other members. Please, feel free to ask me for more details and I'll do my best.
 
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For the time being, nothing added-on. In my other Windows 10 VMs, I run a lot, mainly math software, like Maple or Mathematica, and flight simulators for Microsoft platforms. But, at the moment, I do not own any versions of such apps that are ARM-compatible. I only created the Windows 11 VM for testing the possibility of running one on a base Mini M1.

A different story with Ubuntu, though. I am installing several packages of interest that are not coming natively with the Ubuntu installation.
 
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Got it. Since I imagine there are few native ARM apps, I was hoping to hear how x86 apps run under translation.

At the moment, I think there may be more people running win 11 ARM in Parallels than on actual ARM machines 😀
 
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True. And that Rosetta thing, I haven't tried it yet; it doesn't look as no-brainer as it is advertised.
 
I tried this few month ago on M1 mac mini, 512GB/8GB with Parallels in Windows 11 ARM. It was surprisingly good performance for what I needed. And I was running standard x86-64bit software in the ARM Windows, not any ARM specific Windows software. Mac has Rosetta2, but WIndows have the same thing in their ARM version. Every Windows application I threw at the Win11 ARM in Parallels for now worked, but I do not play games.
Basically, things worked so well, that I was able to upgrade my main daily use MBP to M1. But this one has 32GB RAM. Parallels with Win11 ARM run in this extremely well with any Windows (x86, 64 bit) software I need to run there. And cool is, that my old key from Win 7 Pro retail license worked and Microsoft upgraded me to Win11 ARM Pro license at no cost. Apparently this retail license got free upgrades to Win10, Win11, and now Win11 ARM.
 
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I tried this few month ago on M1 mac mini, 512GB/8GB with Parallels in Windows 11 ARM. It was surprisingly good performance for what I needed. And I was running standard x86-64bit software in the ARM Windows, not any ARM specific Windows software. Mac has Rosetta2, but WIndows have the same thing in their ARM version. Every Windows application I threw at the Win11 ARM in Parallels for now worked, but I do not play games.
Basically, things worked so well, that I was able to upgrade my main daily use MBP to M1. But this one has 32GB RAM. Parallels with Win11 ARM run in this extremely well with any Windows (x86, 64 bit) software I need to run there. And cool is, that my old key from Win 7 Pro retail license worked and Microsoft upgraded me to Win11 ARM Pro license at no cost. Apparently this retail license got free upgrades to Win10, Win11, and now Win11 ARM.
It sounds too good to be true! I'll give it a try, but not today as it is April 1 Fools' Day!
 
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Noteworthy is, that I needed to run a government application (from one of EU governments) and they provide Mac and Windows applications. Both as Intel versions; no ARM version - governments are too slow to react to technology changes. I tried macOS application under Rosetta2 and that failed. I contacted the support (note: government support) and got simply shrug and "not supported", no solution offered.
I tried Windows (Intel) version in Parallels Win11 ARM and it worked just fine. Go figure...
 
Seriously now, Honza1, I followed your previous post and the fact is I managed to install and run Photoshop on the Windows 11 VM in that base Mini M1 of mine. So, you were right, thanks!
 
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I hope you are right. I bought a mac mini m1 just to check if the only essential application for windows works well on parallels on arm.
If it works, I'm considering the next mac studio (m2 or m3)to replace my trashcan.
 
UPDATE: Configuration as in my OP, but I added an external 500GB NVMe running from an Icy Box enclosure via USB-C port. All the VMs are now in that ext SSD: Windows 11, Fedora 36, Ubuntu 22.04, Debian 11, and Ventura. Some remarks on performance so far:

1. In Windows, I have installed Photoshop, Maple, Mathematica, and Matlab, all running impressively well.
2. Fedora still has some problems and is a bit slow compared to Debian.
3. Ubuntu and Debian are excellent; Debian is now my Linux distro of choice.
4. The surprise came with the installation of Ventura. I don't know if that will cause any problems in the future, but Ventura VM is not installed as a .pvm; instead, it appears as .macvm and some features require extra work to run. As I have the habit of installing a Mac VM of the same version with the host OS for testing apps etc., I don't mind the new VM type, but I'll keep an eye.
 
Got it. Since I imagine there are few native ARM apps, I was hoping to hear how x86 apps run under translation.

At the moment, I think there may be more people running win 11 ARM in Parallels than on actual ARM machines 😀

Well I'm running MS Money with no issues at all on Windows 11 inside Parallels on Ventura on an M1. The Money install kit is dated 2005 and originally built for XP. I find that quite impressive.
 
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I hope you are right. I bought a mac mini m1 just to check if the only essential application for windows works well on parallels on arm.
If it works, I'm considering the next mac studio (m2 or m3)to replace my trashcan.
I have been using the mac mini m1 as the main machine with parallels for 2 weeks and I am pleasantly surprised with the performance of parallels.
I think my transition time has come!!!
I will look for a machine to replace my trashcan.
 
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