Paris Expo = Apple TV?

Discussion in 'Apple TV and Home Theater' started by sWaltuo, Aug 18, 2007.

  1. sWaltuo macrumors regular

    May 25, 2007
    Could we get that update for the Apple TV that Steve mentioned during the presentation given at Apple's Town Hall?
  2. nlivo macrumors 6502a

    Jun 18, 2007
    Ballarat, Australia
    dont know if a hobby like appletv would get a keynote but i dont know.....
  3. netdog macrumors 603


    Feb 6, 2006
    I'd bet on movies and tv shows on iTMS Europe will be rolled out, perhaps with some HD material at iTMS as well. Don't know that the hardware or software really needs any update. It works just fine. Maybe enable the USB port to support an external drive?
  4. FleurDuMal macrumors 68000


    May 31, 2006
    London Town
  5. Raidersmojo macrumors regular

    Jul 3, 2005
    Burton michigan
    steve did say we'd hear something about apple TV "soon" so I think paris would be a good start...probably just a small update, nothing major.
  6. kwood macrumors 6502a


    Jun 26, 2006
    In the Great White North.
    I would think is Steve rolled out iTMS with HD content then that would be a prime time to say something like "also today we are rolling out new Apple TVs with 5.1 Dolby digital surround and resolutions up to 1080p." That in addition to a storage bump would be nice.

    It does seem very likely if the iTMS were updated with HD content that and Apple TV would be updated along with it.
  7. David G. macrumors 65816

    Apr 10, 2007
  8. ajhill macrumors 6502

    May 2, 2007
    Look for HD, yes, but not likely 1080p

    Yes, HD is coming to iTMS but most likely in 720p. That step alone is a huge increase in file size, and yes, even Apple has to pay for bandwidth.

    I am more eagerly awaiting the day that Apple makes HD movie content available for RENTAL on iTMS. I'd pay $3.99 to watch a HD movie WITH Dolby 5.1 sound.

    They could easily put Blockbuster and Netfix out of business. Those two are working on streaming movies for rental to your desktop. Who wants to watch a movie sitting in front of their computer. For me, it's my couch, on my AppleTV.

    I don't want HDDVD, or BluRay. Why buy a player that may not catch on. I'd rather pay a small amount, watch the movie and move on with my life. Saves our landfill from all that BluRay trash when they invent whatever comes along next.

    Come on Steve, do the right thing and give us HD movie rentals on our AppleTVs.

  9. CaptainWOW macrumors member

    Aug 12, 2007
    San Diego
    No HD on iTunes = No sale for me

    The lack of HD content on the iTunes Store is the one thing holding me back from getting an :apple:TV. As a matter of fact, the lack of HD has caused me to stop buying videos from Apple at all. I'd much rather catch House, Heroes, The Office or Lost at 1080i (or 720p in the case of Lost and House, MD) with 5.1 Dolby Digital sound even if I have to wait weeks for a repeat. Or I'll catch it on my DVR. Or I wait until the DVD comes out.

    640X480 (or there about) just doesn't cut it on my 1080p TV. 720p would be better. 1080 material (not gonna happen), even nicer.

    I've become quite a stickler with PQ ever since I got my HDTV. Even more so now that I have both an HD DVD and Blu-ray player.
  10. iDave macrumors 6502a

    Aug 14, 2003
    I agree, movie rentals are needed at iTunes. But $3.99 is too high. I'll stick to Netflix at that price.

    I got a Mac mini instead of AppleTV due to the limitations of AppleTV. I'm anxiously awaiting Netflix streaming compatibility with the Mac, due next year. (They have DRM issues currently, so for now Netflix streaming is for WinPC only.) When that happens, I'll be able to watch four streaming movies a month on my TV plus all the DVDs I can exchange in the mail, all for just $18 monthly. That's much cheaper than $3.99 per movie (and much cheaper than cable).
  11. megfilmworks macrumors 68020


    Jul 1, 2007
    Sherman Oaks
    There is no doubt that BlueRay and HD DVD are dead on delivery.
    I own the Toshibas and they are really nice, but, the future is clear. Between DVRs, video on demand, downloading HD for sale and rental, and the inherent costs of DVD production, distribution, shipping and or brick and mortar, the handwriting is on the wall..there is a reason Tower went BK. Hope the apple tv and iTunes go fully HD ASAP!!
  12. virus1 macrumors 65816


    Jun 24, 2004
    You want HD content, so you buy the DVD?
  13. petteri macrumors member

    Aug 4, 2006
    He has both HD - DVD and Bluray players.

    I've also held back from ANY video material from iTMS, because of the picture quality. There just isn't any reason for me at this point to pay any "extra, more that what I already pay for cable" for material that isn't in HD. In fact I already get some VOD in HD from my cable company for free. Apple's offerings in the HD arena will need to be impressive. I'm guessing they know that, and that is the reason for the delay. They can't really make, or they shouldn't any way, a big show of adding HD to the iTMS and have a offerings be just a small collection.

    I'm wondering what the conditions will be on any movie "rentals". Will I get to keep the movie for an unlimited time? With HD is it going to have to be kept locally on the :apple:TV HD? How are they going to offer this with the 40GB units, or those units that are filled up? Will you get a rebate if you get stuttering and poor quality due to bandwidth issues?
  14. zioxide macrumors 603


    Dec 11, 2006
    I'll get season passes to 24, Prison Break, and The Unit the day Apple gets 720p downloads on the iTunes Store.

    Also, HD movies would be nice, with the option to rent for $2.99 (you get like 5 max rentals at a time) or buy for $9.99. They could also offer a subscription service for unlimited rentals (5 max at a time) for like $19.99 a month.

    That would be awesome.
  15. d.f macrumors regular

    Jan 11, 2003
    listen to yourself....

    why do people think ATV is going to get HD....? i know it would be super cool, but so would flying cars. the movie studios don't even offer an up to date selection of SD content the he US iTMS. Outside the US they don't offer anything. the movie studios are not really backing iTMS.

    why do people think the movie studios are going to suddenly open up their HD content..... not trying to be negative, but i see no evidence of this. Apple need to get up to the Netflix / Blockbuster standards on SD, before they can convince studios their platform - iTMS is the way forward.

    as i've mentioned in another thread if Apple did something really controversial - allow DVD ripping in iTunes 8. they would at least have a reason to buy Apple TV for movie fans. I know it's legality is a grey area, but something has to give as i can't even remember the last iTMS content announcement, and as i said, they have NOTHING ON OFFER outside the US.
  16. iDave macrumors 6502a

    Aug 14, 2003
    If you already own a DVD, why would you need AppleTV to play it? That makes no sense to me.

    I agree with the rest of your post. It doesn't seem that movie studios are rushing to provide any HD content for sale or rent online. Seems the only way they plan to distribute HD content is with DVDs, cable, Netflix and Blockbuster. I think they'll come around eventually but not soon.

    As for TV content, I think TV shows should be offered in HD now at iTunes. So far, there are really no (few?) high definition DVD sales or rentals of TV shows and I think HD would really boost online sales of those shows. I'd be much more likely to buy the season passes if the shows were HD, or at least closer to HD than they are currently.
  17. megfilmworks macrumors 68020


    Jul 1, 2007
    Sherman Oaks
    I've seen a few posters say that Apple ITMS will get HD dowloads when pigs fly. Apple already has downloadable the music store it is still limited to video podcasts by major producers. Also check the QT page on the Apple website, tons of short full HD videos. The future is here...embrace it by downloading HD content and it will grow faster.
  18. d.f macrumors regular

    Jan 11, 2003
    not mass market

    i agree Apple have got what they can in HD. it's not a complaint at Apple. But if you're honest mainstream HD content owners (movie / TV studios) are not jumping into bed with iTMS, like the record companies did with music. a few have used it to test the waters. if it was working out, they'd soon have jumped in with two feet.

    i just think were getting way ahead of ourselves to expect HD TV/Movie announcements any time soon. at best iTMS in the US may get some move SD content from existing studio relationships, and if we're lucky international iTMS will get some local TV shows. i hope. (i live in UK).
  19. d.f macrumors regular

    Jan 11, 2003
    you're right. you don't need it to at all. but i was just thinking of Apple's keenness to get all our content on our macs, where it can then be transferred to anything with OSX. they seem to have built their 'digital hub' strategy around this. however, the upside may not be worth the potential (outdated) legalities they'd need to overcome.

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