Patriot Missile Found In Fla. Scrap Yard

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Thomas Veil, Jul 21, 2007.

  1. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

    Thomas Veil

    Feb 14, 2004
    OBJECTIVE reality

    I just did a local documentary about a Medina County, Ohio refuse plant that is one of the best in the nation at recycling.

    One of the things I learned was that if you work at the plant, you get to keep anything of value that you find.

    Wonder if it works the same way in Florida? :p
  2. Counterfit macrumors G3


    Aug 20, 2003
    sitting on your shoulder
    I guess it depends on if the plant has signed any weapons treaties. :D
  3. Maui macrumors 6502a


    May 18, 2007
    Now we know where Cheney's "undisclosed location" is - a scrap yard in Tampa.
  4. Father Jack macrumors 68020

    Father Jack

    Jan 1, 2007
    Wow, it's great what you can buy second-hand from a scrap yard .... :cool:
  5. Gymnut macrumors 68000


    Apr 18, 2003
    Looks like someone wrote something off as a "field loss". :rolleyes:
  6. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus


    Jan 9, 2004
    Grand Rapids, MI, USA
    I prefer the term "fixer-upper." :)
  7. dmw007 macrumors G4


    May 26, 2005
    Working for MI-6
    That is the scary part- assuming that all someone had to do was strap an explosive onto the rocket, aim, and then fire. :eek:
  8. Lord Blackadder macrumors G5

    Lord Blackadder

    May 7, 2004
    Sod off
    Missiles are a lot more complex than that - terrorist organizations like Al Qaeda do not yet have the technological know-how to build or repair a missile. Without a warhead it's essentially harmless from a military standpoint, though the guidance system would probably be of interest to Iran or North Korea and so on.
  9. Felldownthewell macrumors 65816


    Feb 10, 2006
    Not necissarily...the hard part to replicate on a guided missile is the guidance system and the propulsion system, both the parts left on the rocket. The explosive would be as simple as making an aerodynamic warhead that will explode on contact. Obviously it won't function nearly as well as the army's version and has a way higher risk of A) blowing up on launch or B) failing to hit/take down the target, but reverse engineering the warhead is way easier than trying to replicate the other parts...

    However, since the patriot missile requires a radar system (and a truck with the proper launch pad and such) to fire, it is really unlikely anyone could have used the missile as a weapon had they found it and not told anyone. (wikipedia's description)
  10. Lord Blackadder macrumors G5

    Lord Blackadder

    May 7, 2004
    Sod off
    True. But even if any of the better know terrorist organizations had a Patriot, they certainly would not have the tech to replicate the guidance system, interface with it to get it running or (as you pointed out) actually use it since it requires ground radar.

    Another thing to think about is that there are Patriots and then there are Patriots...the early generation ones are not able to intercept most ballistic missiles, though they could be used as a regular old ballistic missile maybe (the specified warhead is too small for anything other than a terror raid).

    Though the Patriot is one of the most developed of the world's SAM systems, the jury is still out on whether it can actually do what is designed to do. Shooting down a missile with another missile is one of the stickiest of military problems, and while the Patriot works well against aircraft, the two Gulf Wars have shown that it can still be defeated by fairly primitive offensive missile systems.

    All other stuff aside though, somebody F'd up on this one...wonder how it slipped through the cracks. Maybe it was just listed as an airframe and sold for scrap but someone forgot to remove the guidance/propulsion bits.

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