Paypal dispute while selling watch on Ebay.

seeforyourself

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Hey guys! So I have a story to tell you.

I purchased 3 apple watch 4 series (44mm) and the first one sold for $600 no problem. The second one the guy purchased it and tried to make me ship it somewhere else but i didn't allow it.

Third time somebody purchased it and as soon as a shipped it, they disputed the charge. I couldn't retrieve the package back or anything and i had to put counter the dispute claim. Apparently the persons old eBay was hacked and they were trying to change directions of where it was originally being shipped. FedEx caught onto it and called me saying that the package was trying to be rerouted to a warehouse in NJ (20 minutes from NYC) and they researched it and they concluded it to be a fraud package warehouse. Luckily I put the tracking information through eBay and I was covered under seller protection.

Within a week I got a call saying that the case closed in my favor and that I have the $600 in my account. The victim of the hack got their money disputed through their credit card company. The package was in limbo in Texas (where it was originally supposed to be shipped) and they made 3 attempts to deliver it (it was an abandoned house). They eventually shipped me back the Apple watch since they had made multiple attempts. So now I have an apple watch AND the money I got from selling it and nobody has contacted me back and the case is closed etc...

Do I keep the watch?!
 

jefflmorris

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Oct 3, 2007
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I think if you want to do the "right" thing, the watch is yours...it is the money you should return.


Hey guys! So I have a story to tell you.

I purchased 3 apple watch 4 series (44mm) and the first one sold for $600 no problem. The second one the guy purchased it and tried to make me ship it somewhere else but i didn't allow it.

Third time somebody purchased it and as soon as a shipped it, they disputed the charge. I couldn't retrieve the package back or anything and i had to put counter the dispute claim. Apparently the persons old eBay was hacked and they were trying to change directions of where it was originally being shipped. FedEx caught onto it and called me saying that the package was trying to be rerouted to a warehouse in NJ (20 minutes from NYC) and they researched it and they concluded it to be a fraud package warehouse. Luckily I put the tracking information through eBay and I was covered under seller protection.

Within a week I got a call saying that the case closed in my favor and that I have the $600 in my account. The victim of the hack got their money disputed through their credit card company. The package was in limbo in Texas (where it was originally supposed to be shipped) and they made 3 attempts to deliver it (it was an abandoned house). They eventually shipped me back the Apple watch since they had made multiple attempts. So now I have an apple watch AND the money I got from selling it and nobody has contacted me back and the case is closed etc...

Do I keep the watch?!
 

hologram

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May 12, 2007
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Or wait and see if they contact you and give you a legitimate address. If they are legit, they’ll get back in touch. If not, maybe they’ll think twice about trying to screw someone else. If you don’t hear from them in a month, spend the money. Don’t feel bad about keeping it if they’re crooks. Teach them a lesson.
 

HeadphoneAddict

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Sep 16, 2007
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Or wait and see if they contact you and give you a legitimate address. If they are legit, they’ll get back in touch. If not, maybe they’ll think twice about trying to screw someone else. If you don’t hear from them in a month, spend the money. Don’t feel bad about keeping it if they’re crooks. Teach them a lesson.
PayPal lost the money in the end - the seller got his watch back, and the "alleged" buyer got his money back. The OP should either (1) return the claim money to PayPal, or (2) give them the watch since he already "sold" it on eBay with via and he got his money after the sale. I think that it's PayPal's right to recover the property in question.
 

seeforyourself

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Dec 1, 2014
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PayPal lost the money in the end - the seller got his watch back, and the "alleged" buyer got his money back. The OP should either (1) return the claim money to PayPal, or (2) give them the watch since he already "sold" it on eBay with via and he got his money after the sale. I think that it's PayPal's right to recover the property in question.
Paypal didn't lose any money. When i was on the phone with them, they said that the money was disputed through the credit card company linked to their paypal. Paypal was just holding onto the money and then released it back to me because of the seller protection. Paypal saw the charge as fraud and gave me back the money. I am going to see what they say in the coming weeks. The case is closed through paypal, but i would assume the investigation will continue on. I am going to wait and see what they do in terms of giving back the watch and keeping the money, or giving the money back and keeping the watch. I am checking my emails and stuff.

My brother told me a story about how one time he sold an xbox 360 for $150 for the package to be "damaged". Paypal sided with the buyer and refunded the buyer and he got to keep the item as well. My brother then settled through his credit card company (didn't know how it was possible).
 

HeadphoneAddict

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Sep 16, 2007
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Paypal didn't lose any money. When i was on the phone with them, they said that the money was disputed through the credit card company linked to their paypal. Paypal was just holding onto the money and then released it back to me because of the seller protection. Paypal saw the charge as fraud and gave me back the money. I am going to see what they say in the coming weeks. The case is closed through paypal, but i would assume the investigation will continue on. I am going to wait and see what they do in terms of giving back the watch and keeping the money, or giving the money back and keeping the watch. I am checking my emails and stuff.

My brother told me a story about how one time he sold an xbox 360 for $150 for the package to be "damaged". Paypal sided with the buyer and refunded the buyer and he got to keep the item as well. My brother then settled through his credit card company (didn't know how it was possible).
Somebody is losing the money - PayPal, credit card, or insurance.
 
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Dwood1970

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Somebody is losing the money - PayPal, credit card, or insurance.
I agree with you. The only one benefitting is the seller. The buyer was made whole, PayPal has to get the insurance to cover and as the seller you can potentially make $1200 off a $600 watch.
 

Ojisan

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Mar 9, 2015
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I would lay low if I was you because PayPal, the insurance, credit card company are so rich they will probably never miss the $600 or the watch. $600 to rich folks is like 600¢ to normal people.
 

Khashoggi

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Oct 10, 2007
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Wait 60-90 days for the credit card chargeback window to close before you do anything with the money.
 
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