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[Rower_CPU]

Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon
arn please educate these poor people! i dont have the patience...

the beta is only free because you pirated (i hate using that word, look what you made me do!). the beta isnt "free." just beacuase adobe doesnt sell it doesnt mean its "free." beta doesnt mean "free." it means its a build that is built before the final build is made. adobe is not giving these betas away.

look as much as we would all like to justify downloading software that wasnt intedned to be distributed freely, saying it isnt illegal isnt the right way to go about it. attack it on a moral and rational standp point, but the law is pretty cut and dry. it is illegal. if you want to discuss if that is right or not then start another thread (or jump into the morpheus for mac thread because its got 6 or 7 pages full of that debate).

Well then answer me this: How did you get your copy? It's easy to judge when you're priviledged enough to be among the "in-crowd".
If you obtained your copy "legally", then please let me know how to do likewise. I would love to beta-test Adobe's products!

I'm not starting a war over this. At worst, I'm admitting to impatience.

 

[cleo]

Originally posted by Rower_CPU


Well then answer me this: How did you get your copy? It's easy to judge when you're priviledged enough to be among the "in-crowd".
If you obtained your copy "legally", then please let me know how to do likewise. I would love to beta-test Adobe's products!

http://www.adobe.com/products/tryadobe/betatesting.html

There's nothing "priviledged" about it. Yes, being a beta tester means you get to see the software before most people. No, it does not mean you get to see to see the final release months in advance. Beta testers put new features through their paces for the purposes of reporting bugs and making the final release that much better. If anything, being a beta tester requires patience and accepting that you're not going to be working with a perfect (or even near perfect, in many cases) product and that the final release that you shell out $600 for may or may not have the features you got used to in earlier builds.

Just because version 7 is on its way doesn't make version 6 any less cool or powerful.

 

[Rower_CPU]

I have one word for you: Carbon.
That is the reason 7 is much more powerful and cool, for me anyway, than 6.

 

[AmbitiousLemon]

rower, buddy im not trying to take any moral high ground here. im not saying its wrong for you to download betas (or anything for that matter), all im saying is dont pretend it isnt illegal. i download as much as anyone, but i dont run around saying im not breaking the law when i do it. but you know why i choose to break that law and not others? because i feel in this case the law has nothing to do with morality.

listen i spend a lot of time arguing with the big boys about copyright issues and such. it always bothers me though when i see people who clearly agree with me that certain digital media should be decriminalized making the wrong arguments. the whether this is legal or not is cut and dry. whether it is right for it to be illegal is not so clear cut.

like i aid if you want to start a thread on copyright issues go for it, but dont pretend its not breaking the law to violate copyrights.

 

[Ensign Paris]

Betas are not illegal as long as you recieved them from the company that intended you to have them.

If you download it from another source, it is illegal, but I don't think any company would take legal action over it. (Apart for Apple, they are very secret!)

Ensign