pc>mac wired network...how to do it

XheartcoreboyX

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i have just got my new macbook pro...and didnt enjoy anything on it yet..all my files are on my windows laptop =\ ....i got a network wired cable between my mbp and pc..but i do not know what to do now...would you PLEASE help me? or tell me about any site/post help me do it?!

thanks!!!
 

XheartcoreboyX

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hey thanks for response,
i tried the links and stuff...tried finder>go>connect to server..and type the deails right but after all that i got an error,please help!!
 

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ab2650

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hey thanks for response,
i tried the links and stuff...tried finder>go>connect to server..and type the deails right but after all that i got an error,please help!!
A little googling on "error code -43" revealed to me it usually has to do with illegal file names, that is special characters that can't be used in SMB (and thusly, on windows since that is the original specification for SMB).

I personally haven't seen this error message, so I can't say for sure the cause and likewise the fix. I would first double check computer and share names, and secondly file names. If you haven't shared files via the network before there's a good chance Windows has not been setup for sharing and/or is blocked with windows firewall.

It would also be helpful to know exactly what OS your old laptop is running, and if you have assigned IP addresses to each computer. Are they on a router? Do you have them connected directly together (crossover cable)?

-ab
 

XheartcoreboyX

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A little googling on "error code -43" revealed to me it usually has to do with illegal file names, that is special characters that can't be used in SMB (and thusly, on windows since that is the original specification for SMB).

I personally haven't seen this error message, so I can't say for sure the cause and likewise the fix. I would first double check computer and share names, and secondly file names. If you haven't shared files via the network before there's a good chance Windows has not been setup for sharing and/or is blocked with windows firewall.

It would also be helpful to know exactly what OS your old laptop is running, and if you have assigned IP addresses to each computer. Are they on a router? Do you have them connected directly together (crossover cable)?

-ab
pc:windows xp mac: macbookpro 2.4ghz(os x)
they are connected together directly by the network cable..and in windows to shows that the network is working..but in mac i dont even know hot to figure out. =\

someone would PLEASE help me??
im so damn dissapointed and all i can do is sit here and try for nothing like an idiot >_>...
 

termina3

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I'd either wip out the DVDs or use your iPod (if you have one... hopefully...) as an external HD.

Try calling AppleCare. Worst case, take your computers into an Apple Store and they should switch you over.
 

XheartcoreboyX

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I'd either wip out the DVDs or use your iPod (if you have one... hopefully...) as an external HD.

Try calling AppleCare. Worst case, take your computers into an Apple Store and they should switch you over.
the dvds thing umm the biggest dvd i have is 4gb...and i have about 40gb of stuff on m pc...applecare?apple store? we dont have any here..
 

zioxide

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Are you using a crossover ethernet cable or a regular one? If you're not using a crossover but have the computers connected directly, it won't work.
 

XheartcoreboyX

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Are you using a crossover ethernet cable or a regular one? If you're not using a crossover but have the computers connected directly, it won't work.
very good point,how can i know if its a crossover or regular???
 

ab2650

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very good point,how can i know if its a crossover or regular???
Well, if windows is saying it's connected, then it's probably working - and my guess would be because the RJ45 ports on both machines are autosensing, that is, they can account for crossover or straight-though cables just fine.

(as an aside, can anyone attest that the MBP has an auto sensing port? I can't see why not considering $5 switches have them...)

To check your wired connection on a mac, open :apple: > System Preferences > Network > Built-in Ethernet. Under the TCP/IP section, what is the IP Address set to? I would suggest setting the wired network to have addresses in the same range to make networking easier; say 192.168.1.10 for the MBP, and 192.168.1.11 for the Windows portable.

So how are you getting online to the internet? I assume you're doing dial-up, otherwise you would have a router somewhere in the mix, yes? If you have a broadband connection (cable, dsl, even satellite) I suggest investing in a router/switch combo for like $30.
-ab

very good point,how can i know if its a crossover or regular???
To answer the question, it's rather difficult unless you have a tester. However, most purchased crossover cables will say so, or are red. This isn't to say that regular patch cable can't be red, but it may be an indication.

If it's working between the MBP and the Windows machine, then its either 1) a cross over cable, or 2) the computers are auto-sensing.
 

Zel

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Look at the pins on each one. if they are different on either end like this picture, then you have a crossover cable.



You should be using a network, not a single cord though. Maybe use an external harddrive.
 

chrishch

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If you are just connecting two laptops with a cable, you need to manually assign each laptop with an IP address as suggested by ab2650.

Some newer laptops have auto-switching, where you may not need a cross-over cable. I can connect my Macbook and my ThinkPad with a straight-through cable.

To confirm, once you have assigned each laptop an IP Address, ping the other from the Terminal or Command Prompt. However, if you are pinging your PC from your Macbook, you should enable ICMP ping response on your PC laptop, or for a shortcut, disable the Windows Firewall temporarily.

Once you confirm you have connectivity, press Command-K on your Macbook, enter smb://192.168.1.11/share-name (assuming your PC IP address is set as 192.168.1.11, and the shared-directory or drive is called "shared-name". If the File & Printer Sharing is enabled on the PC, you should be prompted to enter a set of user name and password. This is your user name and password on the Windows laptop. Once authenticated, you should be able to access your files.

As mentioned previously, it's a lot easier to disable your Windows Firewall temporarily so you don't have to worry about enabling certain services on the Windows laptop.
 

ab2650

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If you are just connecting two laptops with a cable, you need to manually assign each laptop with an IP address as suggested by ab2650.

Some newer laptops have auto-switching, where you may not need a cross-over cable. I can connect my Macbook and my ThinkPad with a straight-through cable.

To confirm, once you have assigned each laptop an IP Address, ping the other from the Terminal or Command Prompt. However, if you are pinging your PC from your Macbook, you should enable ICMP ping response on your PC laptop, or for a shortcut, disable the Windows Firewall temporarily.

Once you confirm you have connectivity, press Command-K on your Macbook, enter smb://192.168.1.11/share-name (assuming your PC IP address is set as 192.168.1.11, and the shared-directory or drive is called "shared-name". If the File & Printer Sharing is enabled on the PC, you should be prompted to enter a set of user name and password. This is your user name and password on the Windows laptop. Once authenticated, you should be able to access your files.

As mentioned previously, it's a lot easier to disable your Windows Firewall temporarily so you don't have to worry about enabling certain services on the Windows laptop.
Chris, this is all good advice.
OP, it may sound complicated, but it really isn't... I'll help you go through the steps if you need. basically, the plan is this:

1) disable windows firewall.
2) set the Win machine to have a static IP of 192.168.1.11 on the wired network interface.
3) set the Mac to have a static IP of 192.168.1.10 on wired.
4) connect cable.
5) from the windows machine, go to start > run and type "cmd". In the resulting window, type "ping 192.168.1.10". You should see a few lines saying "reply from 192.168.1.10".
5 (alternative) from the mac, open Applications > Utilitites > Terminal.app and type "ping 192.168.1.11". You should see it returning results, but you have to hit Control-C to make it stop.
6) Ensure you have windows file sharing on and are sharing a folder. On Windows, right click the folder and select "Sharing and Security".
7) On OS X, in the finder, go to Go > Connect to Server (or hit Command-K). Type "smb://192.168.1.11/" and you should be prompted with a share name to connect to.

GL! -ab
 

jawzzy

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Oh my. I spent upwards of 10 hours trying to do the exact same thing when I got my MBP. Never did get it to work. Just use an external HD or something.
 

XheartcoreboyX

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thanks..thanks..THANKS!!!
it finally works!!!
my files on pc are being coppied to my mbp =D
and its SO FAST!!
 

ag227

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the simplest way i have done this that usually works is as follows,

1) go to sharing in prefences, make sure windows sharing is turned on
2) take note of the address at the bottom of the window (it should read something like \\192.168.2.2\username
3)plug in the cable
4)go to network places on windows pc, click add network place
5)type in the address from above (\\192.168.2.2\username)
6)it should say it is trying to connect, but then say that it cant get an ip address, this is ok, it works anyway
7) open on the network place that you just made for the mac on the windows machine (it should ask for your password)
8)give it your username and password and click ok
9)you should then see the contents of your mac
10)go to where you want the files to be
11) open up a new window on the pc (like my documents)
12)then drag and drop the files between folders on the windows pc
13) once done disconnect the cables and they will be on your mac

sometimes 14) sometimes it transfers very slowly, like 1mb/s, making sure all windows and programs on the mac are closed normaly solves this

i hope this helps you, let me know if it does
 

ab2650

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thanks..thanks..THANKS!!!
it finally works!!!
my files on pc are being coppied to my mbp =D
and its SO FAST!!
Sweet! glad to know it finally worked! I'm going to bet that both laptops are gigabit ethernet (1000BaseT) so that's probably why the transfers were especially fast.
-ab