As a person who knows a 'good' amount on information on the hardware he has (be it Apple Mac's or Home Cinema), i have recently been easily sold by pci-express and the 'advantages' it poses - i have read a lot of people whine about it not being in the latest Power Mac update - i was probably one of them as i saw the latest Power Mac update. So many people were not only pissed off with the lack of 3Ghz or dual-core's but also the lack of motherboard updates, specifically the lack of pci-Express. So, i decided to do some research, and from a few readings the higher bandwidth, 4gb'/s, pci-express offers actually over AGP 8X gives very little real time application and game performance improvements - if any. Am i correct in this? So in essence Intel developed a technology that really offers no improvements, has marketed it well to the graphics card companies and consumers and has ensured all the latest graphics card has it standard. But i am also wondering, is will ATi and Nvidia continue to produce the latest AGP gfx cards or will the last batch be the last? Bit frustrating, but at least we have the latest cards in the X800 and 6800 Ultra - be it in AGP 8X which gives you no less of performance over the express cards. The only thing the Power Mac's lack is slightly more expandability and perhaps no dual-cores - but when are they going to be in mainstream systems commercially? As it stands the Power Mac is still one of the fastest main stream processors available.