Pdanet with hide usage fail

[tecmanpr]

I was using the pdanet for about 2 moths and today i recived an email saying that the system detect that im using tethering with an external device. i told them im not using other things with my iphone, but they say if i try to use it one more time the system will change my unlimited plan to 4g a month and will cost me 45$.

I spend like 7gigbytes the last month and i think thats why they send the email, im going to spend that amount on agust to see the results. if i recive another note from them then it means they measure bandwith. and not the packets that are send and received by them. please spread this Info to all places, PDANET SUCKS!!!!(ver5.02)(ios4.0)(3gs)

 

[Applejuiced]

Yes, many people have been reporting the same with PdaNet hide usage feature or whatever they call it.
Its not that PdaNet sucks, its that AT&T is really starting to crack down no matter what tethering hack you're using.

 

[gngan]

I spend like 7gigbytes the last month and i think thats why they send the email, im going to spend that amount on agust to see the results. if i recive another note from them then it means they measure bandwith. and not the packets that are send and received by them. please spread this Info to all places, PDANET SUCKS!!!!(ver5.02)(ios4.0)(3gs)

You 'think' you got a warning because you used 7gb of tethering and you will keep using. If you get another warning then they are using bandwith to determine if a user is tethering.

How is that argument correct? You need a fact for your premise but your premise is an opinion (i.e. i think). How would your conclusion (which is they are using bandwith rather than packet to determine tethering) be correct?

Your conclusion will only be an opinion rather than fact.

 

[JayHD]

OP - Did you change the TTL on the device you are tethering to 65?

The consensus is that AT&T is focused on two things:

- Is the data going through the access point dedicated to tethering or dedicated to phone data? PDAnet and Tetherme use the phone WAP, MyWi (apparently) uses the tethering WAP.

- What is the TTL (time to live) value when the data reaches the end point? iPhones are set at 64. By changing the value on your PC (default 127) or jailbroken iPad (default 64) to 65, it ensures the TTL value (which decreases by "1" during each "hop" within the network) will finish at 64.

I got a warning, but have not gotten a second warning in the 2 months since I started using PDAnet hide lvl1 and changing the TTL on my iPad and netbook to 65.

One more trick that seems to work - if you don't want to take any steps to hide your tethering, do it on Edge only. I've seen numerous reports that no one tethering on Edge has been warned.

 

[tecmanpr]

I was using the pdanet for about 2 moths and today i recived an email saying that the system detect that im using tethering with an external device. i told them im not using other things with my iphone, but they say if i try to use it one more time the system will change my unlimited plan to 4g a month and will cost me 45$.

I spend like 7gigbytes the last month and i think thats why they send the email, im going to spend that amount on agust to see the results. if i recive another note from them then it means they measure bandwith. and not the packets that are send and received by them. please spread this Info to all places, PDANET SUCKS!!!!(ver5.02)(ios4.0)(3gs)

i will spend the bandwith like before but with no tethering but just video streamming and torrent download, so i consume alot of bandwith and no tethering for that.

 

[pintnight]

I was using the pdanet for about 2 moths and today i recived an email saying that the system detect that im using tethering with an external device. i told them im not using other things with my iphone, but they say if i try to use it one more time the system will change my unlimited plan to 4g a month and will cost me 45$.

I spend like 7gigbytes the last month and i think thats why they send the email, im going to spend that amount on agust to see the results. if i recive another note from them then it means they measure bandwith. and not the packets that are send and received by them. please spread this Info to all places, PDANET SUCKS!!!!(ver5.02)(ios4.0)(3gs)

If you are not using any external devices, then why are you using Pdanet? Pdanet is a tethering application to allow other devices to connect to your iPhone. It's really easy for AT&T or any phone companies to see what your phone is connecting. If they see a packet going to Microsoft's Windows update server that your laptop is going to, then it's obvious to them that you are tethering since there is no reason for an iPhone to go MS Windows update server.

There is no way for any tethering application can hide data.

 

[ctbear]

Hold on a sec...if your assumption is correct (that AT&T is tracking bandwidth not packets), how does that imply "PDAnet sucks"? After all there's nothing PDAnet can do in that case

 

[Sparky9292]

If you are not using any external devices, then why are you using Pdanet? Pdanet is a tethering application to allow other devices to connect to your iPhone. It's really easy for AT&T or any phone companies to see what your phone is connecting. If they see a packet going to Microsoft's Windows update server that your laptop is going to, then it's obvious to them that you are tethering since there is no reason for an iPhone to go MS Windows update server.

There is no way for any tethering application can hide data.

I emailed the PdaNet and MyWi developers a couple weeks ago. Basically neither of them know how AT&T is tracking this. The PdaNet developer told me that the stealth modes are experimental and he is tweaking them based on user reports.

So you have a right to be pissed. PdaNet is fraudulent in not warning you that stealth mode is bogus.

 

[Carlanga]

I think the OP is BS and the newbie is 'fraudulent' 2

 

[PittsDriver]

OP - Did you change the TTL on the device you are tethering to 65?

The consensus is that AT&T is focused on two things:

- Is the data going through the access point dedicated to tethering or dedicated to phone data? PDAnet and Tetherme use the phone WAP, MyWi (apparently) uses the tethering WAP.

- What is the TTL (time to live) value when the data reaches the end point? iPhones are set at 64. By changing the value on your PC (default 127) or jailbroken iPad (default 64) to 65, it ensures the TTL value (which decreases by "1" during each "hop" within the network) will finish at 64.

I got a warning, but have not gotten a second warning in the 2 months since I started using PDAnet hide lvl1 and changing the TTL on my iPad and netbook to 65.

One more trick that seems to work - if you don't want to take any steps to hide your tethering, do it on Edge only. I've seen numerous reports that no one tethering on Edge has been warned.

How and where do you change the TTL on an MBP?