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EspressoLove

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I did discover this nearly by chance, so please check if you have issues like that crawling around your Mac.

It seems to affect some kind of layered PDFs, making them almost worthless.
Worst part : it's still broken, but "bearable" on Tiger, and no problemo on XP(Foxit PDF Reader)

I did try : Preview, Skim, Yep, on both 10.4 & 10.5 (btw even QuickLook was consistent with other app's results)
So I suspect it's Core Image's glitch ?


This is Preview in Leo (10.5.3)
(P.S. this file is made by older InDesign 2.0.2, but it does render perfectly on Win XP, not even frames around pictures show)

PreviewLeo1.png PreviewLeo2.png

This is Preview in Tiger.
At least it shows 90% of text in question .....

PreviewTiger1.png PreviewTiger2.png

On XP everything is perfect,
No garbled text,
Even white frames around pictures (folder i.e.) mostly gone.

Foxit1.png Foxit2.png

It seems, after some investigation, that I do have more than few files with troubles like that.
Chances are, many of us can have this problem ....

I did search for this glitch on couple of forums, but couldn't find anything.
So, Please, do yourself a favor - check if you have similar results.

I'll include troubled file in question, just for testing's sake, but if you look hard, you'll probably be able to find yours.


P.S. PDF file is a bit bigger (372KB) than forum allows, so I've split it in two Rar's, but had to rename them with Zip extension, as this forum doesn't accept them.
Rename them back to Rar, and you'll be fine with free UnArchiver for example.

What ? Nobody has this issue ?
Nobody has time to verify my heresies ?
And condone my doubts in holy 10.5 ?

Can you just try it out, to see for yourself.

This is a BIG ISSUE, and it has no place on Mac OS X, which is lauded for native PDF handling.

If WE don't rise it as the Issue, then it won't be fixed !!!

P.S. maybe I'm just wrong, and it's just user generated glitches on two Macs I have access to.
OK, I'd be glad & relieved if you'd point it out, and help me solve it, and restore my faith (and peace) BTW.
 

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yellow

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Oct 21, 2003
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Yes, it looks like the first one in Preview on Leopard.

But it looks fine on Adobe Reader 8.1.x.

I have trouble with it being such a giant problem, since it's created with a product that is nearly 6 years old. To expect backwards compatibility forever.. come on.

If you think it's an OS bug, report it: http://www.apple.com/feedback/
 

EspressoLove

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Yes, it looks like the first one in Preview on Leopard.

Do you know the reasons?
And why it's even worse than Tiger's native rendering?

If you think it's an OS bug, report it: http://www.apple.com/feedback/

Just did it. we'll see if they recognize it.

But it looks fine on Adobe Reader 8.1.x.

On windoze didn't used PDFs much (just reading them with some lightweight readers). So didn't liked increasing bulk/bloat of Adobe's products.
I'd rather avoid using even Reader, especially being astounded by fabulous Skim.

So I just had an Idea : to download some of Adobe's latest PDF authoring apps, and convert my troubled files for better compatibility ?
And I have a question then : what would you recommend for this purpose ?

And it's not a big problem (if you consider invoking Win XP normal when you need to read entirety of text).
Yet it's hugely distracting from nearly seamless workflow I enjoy on Leopard.
 

yellow

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I haven't the faintest idea what may cause it, nor what to suggest as a replacement for InDesign 2. I understand that CS3 may not be within your price range.
 

EspressoLove

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I understand that CS3 may not be within your price range.

Well may be so.
But don't they have some trial period/mode?
(Or I can probably ask someone here to ..... "repackage"? a PDF just to try and see if this works)

What I need now : is the general idea - if it may work & how it's supposed to be done.
As I have no faintest scent of experience in this field :confused::D
 
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