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PearPC - PowerPC/Mac OS X Emulation on a PC

I think Apple should just let this program develop and then employ the tactics that MS used to become big.
MS allowed their software to be easily copied, then they'd say that their OS was the most popular as there were so many copied versions being used. So really if this program got good and did well then Apple could just say that OSX is almsot as opopular as Windows and then people would think twice about OSX (we all knpow how good Jobs is at putting spin on the situaution). Then when they see the quality of the OS they're k=likely to buy a Mac, after all whats the point of emulating the OS if they can just get the real thing.
 
Let's face it - Apple aren't going to release an x86 version of MacOS in the near future...but if they did, I'd buy it! Dual-booting Windows and MacOS would be awesome - Windows for games, MacOS for...well, just about everything else.

PearPC is an interesting one. If it worked at a decent speed, I'd investigate it. As it's currently at 1/40th speed, I don't think it's worth bothering with. However, if they got it up to something like 1/10th, I'd be very interested.

And to the person who suggests we run PearPC on a PS2...what are you on?! The PS2's processor is hella slow!!!
 
Dom said:
It might be amusing to see Mac OS boot on a PC but can anyone else think of a genuinely good (and widespread) use for it?
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Not particularly widespread use, but I would like to be able to support both Mac and PC platforms for my customers when on the road. Currently I could use VPC on a Mac laptop, but I much prefer to do development and debug in Visual Studio .NET's C++ environment and compile later on CodeWarrior. With VPC, VS.NET is really too slow to work that way so CodeWarrior becomes the primary development environment. I would love to see and would pay money for a Mac emulator that ran at a reasonable rate so I just needed to carry one machine and could VS.NET as my primary environment.
 
markoibook said:
Hmmm, something smells fishy here.

All Apple Computers contain a special boot rom - and Mac OS will only install and run on computers containing that boot rom. So, even if you built a clone Mac, it would not run Mac OS because of the lack of a boot rom.

For this reason, i cannot see how it would be possible to install and run Mac OS on this emulator - unless it contains a copy of a Mac boot rom - which would be illegal.

Marko
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Amazing how many people have stated this falsehood without any correction.
Apple computers does not contain a boot Rom anymore. It's all software now. There must be people in this forum that knew this. Secondly, how they are installing the software on a PC is illegal. It's illegal because the people who are doing it are using a copy of an OS they have either

1. Obtained from someone who already had it
2. Used the one they have already because they have a mac.

But all software OS license (windows, mac) stipulate that the OS can only be installed on one machine. So unless these people are going out and buying Mac OS (which none has done, as far as i know), they are all commiting software piracy.
 
tomjleeds said:
Let's face it - Apple aren't going to release an x86 version of MacOS in the near future...but if they did, I'd buy it! Dual-booting Windows and MacOS would be awesome - Windows for games, MacOS for...well, just about everything else.

PearPC is an interesting one. If it worked at a decent speed, I'd investigate it. As it's currently at 1/40th speed, I don't think it's worth bothering with. However, if they got it up to something like 1/10th, I'd be very interested.

And to the person who suggests we run PearPC on a PS2...what are you on?! The PS2's processor is hella slow!!!
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you've got to be kidding. what applications would there be for macos x86? i seriously doubt that apple would want to maintain two binary versions of their products (eg final cut pro, garageband, etc.). and i seriously doubt that alias will maintain both a macos ppc and x86 version of maya. the applications that are left would be from the opensource community; in such a case, you might as well dual-boot windows and *insert your-favorite-unix-like-os-that-isn't-macosx*
 
jhu said:
you've got to be kidding. what applications would there be for macos x86? i seriously doubt that apple would want to maintain two binary versions of their products (eg final cut pro, garageband, etc.). and i seriously doubt that alias will maintain both a macos ppc and x86 version of maya. the applications that are left would be from the opensource community; in such a case, you might as well dual-boot windows and *insert your-favorite-unix-like-os-that-isn't-macosx*
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Hence why I said 'they're not going to, but if they did'. And if Apple released MacOS for x86, I'm sure that the software would come with it, else it would be a pointless exercise. However, as I said, it's not going to happen, it's just dreams!
 
ok
It take 9 hooours to finish installation

and woo 0 Mhz PowerPC G3 born

sure you can eXpose

but slooow easily-catch mouse
 
If you really want the enjoyment of a Mac purchase a Mac. Nothing works as well a Mac.
 
MacOS for x86

This may be old news to some of you, but Apple has released an OSX variant for x86 systems called Darwin. It's free for download from the apple website and is very compatible from what I have heard.
 
snuglz said:
This may be old news to some of you, but Apple has released an OSX variant for x86 systems called Darwin. It's free for download from the apple website and is very compatible from what I have heard.
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From what I understand, Darwin is little more than an open source shell. It's a unix-based shell that was developed around FreeBSD (another open source shell) and then OS X was built on top of it. It is most definitely NOT an OS X variant.

wnurse said:
Amazing how many people have stated this falsehood without any correction.
Apple computers does not contain a boot Rom anymore. It's all software now. There must be people in this forum that knew this. Secondly, how they are installing the software on a PC is illegal. It's illegal because the people who are doing it are using a copy of an OS they have either

1. Obtained from someone who already had it
2. Used the one they have already because they have a mac.

But all software OS license (windows, mac) stipulate that the OS can only be installed on one machine. So unless these people are going out and buying Mac OS (which none has done, as far as i know), they are all commiting software piracy.
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They might have bought it...

However, it would still be against the EULA.
 
snuglz said:
This may be old news to some of you, but Apple has released an OSX variant for x86 systems called Darwin. It's free for download from the apple website and is very compatible from what I have heard.
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Darwin is the base part of Mac OS X (not OSX) and exists in PPC and x86 varieties. It doesn't contain any of the GUI pieces.

There is (supposedly) a full version of Mac OS X running on x86 hardware and I believe that it is called Marklar and it hasn't been released.
 
titaniumducky said:
They might have bought it...

However, it would still be against the EULA.
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and we all know that eulas are pretty much unenforceable.
 
Marklar

bousozoku said:
Darwin is the base part of Mac OS X (not OSX) and exists in PPC and x86 varieties. It doesn't contain any of the GUI pieces.

There is (supposedly) a full version of Mac OS X running on x86 hardware and I believe that it is called Marklar and it hasn't been released.
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Wasnt Marklar the name of a race of aliens in "South Park" who refered to all people places and things as marklar and took all the ethiopians in to hide them from Sally Struthers and Christian Misioneries? (Starvin Marvin in space episode) :D
 
wnurse said:
So unless these people are going out and buying Mac OS (which none has done, as far as i know), they are all commiting software piracy.
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Since you do not know what they did, wouldn't it be fair to assume that they are not breaking the law until you have proof of the contrary?
 
umm a lot of people are working on this a most of them live in the states.

I see it as a more of a good thing for apple. They are not loosing money on the deal because come on loosing money on it. Even if those people do pirated it (more than likely most of them are pirated copies) it not like any of them would of paid for the software any how so it no real money out of apple pockets. Heck it convences more people to get a Mac than agaist it.

I currently have pear on my computer and it is barely even up to semiusable speeds for web surfing. If you go to the forums you see people cursing Pear because it made them go out and buy a Mac because they like it.

Because of pear a friend of mine plans on getting a mac for his next computer. Because of pear I currently plan on getting a Powerbook or an iBook when I replace my laptop in a year or 2.

Now I never going to switch fully over to Macs because I like computer games and Mac heavily lack in the profection software that I use or will be using when I get out of collage.

I personly think apple should get involved in this project and start helping them out.
 
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