Pedestrians: Please Read! Your life depends on it!

Discussion in 'Community Discussion' started by glocke12, Sep 1, 2010.

  1. glocke12 macrumors 6502a

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    My daily commute takes me through a couple of small towns.

    Every day I encounter the same thing, pedestrians who do not pay attention to the walk/dont walk signs, and pedestrians who do not cross a street at a crosswalk, they dart in and out of parked cars to cross in the middle of the block.


    Over the past year I have twice almost hit a pedestrian. In each case I was going very slow, but still had close calls.

    The first incident happened when a young lady crossed on a do not walk sign while wearing headphones. I missed her a by mere inches...

    The second incident happened when someone crossed the street in the middle of a block, and not the end. Didnt even look, just ran right in front of me.

    Today was the third incident. I was at a red light waiting for a left turn signal so I could make a left turn. the signal changed indicating I could turn left, and there was clearly a do no walk signal for people crossing the street I was turning onto. On my left, and in my blind spot two people decided to cross anyway. There was no way I could have seen them start to cross as they were totally in my blind spot. Basically what happend is as I turned onto the street my truck came with in a couple of inches of both of them. Had I been going 5-10 miles faster (as it was I was going 5 mph), I would have struck one or both of them.


    None of these close calls were my fault, but were the fault of the people who chose to ignore traffic laws for pedestrians. If I were to have hit one of these people they would have been seriously injured, and I would have had to live with the guilt.


    So please, for your safety pay attention when walking in small towns and cities, use crosswalks, and pay attention to the signals....
     
  2. Ciclismo macrumors 6502a

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    Same goes for my fellow cyclists (and for the love of all that's holy, wear a helmet). The number of times I've been behind another cycliist who wasn't paying attention to the traffic around them - horrifying.
     
  3. KeriJane macrumors 6502a

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    Glocke....

    Please.... If it's not your fault, don't feel guilty for someone else's suicidal recklessness. But do continue to use excess caution.
    People nowdays are Stupid. There's no other accurate word.

    If a Stupid Person walks or cycles into your moving car, call 911 if you have a cellphone. Do not apologize or admit guilt. Do NOT say "I hit someone". Do not berate yourself unless it's your fault... their lawyers and family will do that soon enough.

    If they caused damage to your car, try to collect damages.

    You're probably too nice.


    Have Fun,
    Drive very carefully,
    Keri

    PS. The Marine code of traffic etiquette works great when it's used:
    Smaller vessels must always get out of the way of larger ones.
    Why? Large ships cannot easily turn or stop and they might not even see you!

    Pedestrians and Cyclists need to keep this in mind.
     
  4. Xavier macrumors 68020

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    Actually this happened to me last week.

    I was riding down a long open street that is through campus. If you look, it is VERY hard not to see on coming cyclists or cars.

    A pedestrian walked right out in front of me, not in a crosswalk, and i fell to the ground and got very bruised up. It is amazing that no one has gotten hit by a car.
     
  5. Dros macrumors 6502

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    I'm all for everyone following the rules of the road (and sidewalk). Just a friendly reminder from the other side--if a pedestrian is crossing a road at a crosswalk, do not accelerate in the hope that if you are close enough by the time they reach your side of the road they will be forced to stop and wait for you.
     
  6. Ciclismo macrumors 6502a

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    I had a very close call at the beginning of the year where I almost collected two idiots jay-walking. I came to a hard stop (new tyres on my bike so the rear squealed VERY loudly) and asked them in an angry tone if they had been so careless if I were a car. I also pointed out that at 115kg (plus the bike) if I had collected them, they probably wouldn't have walked away from it.
     
  7. Gregg2 macrumors 603

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    Around here, it's the drivers that don't pay attention to pedestrians! That's especailly true downtown, when the driver wants to turn right. If it's temperate enough to have windows open, and I'm approching said driver from the passenger side, I give out a big Hey! which gets the driver to look at me. Then I just smile and walk in front of the car (when the WALK light is on, of course). The drivers are too intent on making a right turn on red to even think about a person walking across at the cross walk. Mind you, I have to walk around the car, outside of the cross walk because most drivers here don't know (or don't care) they're supposed to stop behind the white line and look for walkers before moving up to look for other vehicles. They're just in too big of a hurry! :rolleyes:
     
  8. chrmjenkins macrumors 603

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    Back on my old college campus we had at least 1 person die a year from getting struck by vehicles. It's a combination of poor drivers and oblivious pedestrians.
     
  9. Jaffa Cake macrumors Core

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    On a similar note, motorists — I know you probably have somewhere very important to get to very quickly, but stopping at a red light on a pedestrian crossing would be appreciated. It benefits us both — I don't nearly get mown down like a dog and you don't have to interrupt your journey (or indeed your phone call) to stop and shout a string of obscenities at me.

    Ta muchly.
     
  10. maflynn Moderator

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    I live/work in Boston where this is a blood sport :eek:

    Pedestrians don't use the cross walks or wait for the appropriate traffic light signal, and drivers ignore pedestrians right of way.
     
  11. costabunny macrumors 68020

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    I have to agree (being on both sides here) - I have close calls every day (good job I have eyes like a hawk and drive very carefully) and the amount of other car drivers I see not caring or looking makes me cringe....

    its simple math people - Fleshy vrs VW = VW FTW!

    (I drive a cab)...

    thus in 16yrs: VW = 0, Fleshy's = 1* so touching all the wood in the forest about now.

    * A drunk walked into the side of my cab once then claimed I had run him down (all in plain sight of a copper who laughed at him and then nicked him as he started to get abusive). <sigh>
     
  12. TheShinyMac macrumors 6502a

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    I also work in Boston Have you seen Summer ST. Right outside of South Station around morning rush hour? Last week I saw a man almost get run down by a 18 wheeler USPS truck, I tried to pull him back but he fell back on his own. It was horrible. People saw it coming but no one said a word. I am only 15 and I always wait for the ok to walk sign. I don't ever trust those damn taxi drivers either
     
  13. OllyW Moderator

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    And don't forget to allow more time for old people to cross the road.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr8KrF8vNPM
     
  14. maflynn Moderator

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    and people think I'm crazy by looking both ways even when I have the light.

    I'm a runner and so I always have my head on a swivel because of how bad drivers are here. The last thing I want to be, is a hood ornament.
     
  15. r1ch4rd macrumors 6502a

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    I've noticed a trend in the UK for large lorries, which need to make wide turns, to have stickers on them warning cyclists (and it mentions cyclists specifically) that "If you can't see my mirrors, I can't see you" and "Vehicle makes wide turns".

    I think to most motorists this is common sense, because it's on the driving test and we're all familiar with using our own mirrors. I'm not sure that all cyclists have this same insight (if they don't drive) or road awareness.

    Best policy - assume pedestrians and cyclists are going to do something crazy and give a wide berth.
     
  16. OllyW Moderator

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    And pedestrians and cyclists should assume motorists are going to do something crazy and give them a wide berth too. :D
     
  17. r1ch4rd macrumors 6502a

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    Absolutely, especially if you see me coming! :D
     
  18. rhett7660 macrumors G4

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    I have yet to see vehicle vs ped and the ped win. Let alone a vehicle vs cyclist.
     
  19. Consultant macrumors G5

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    Survival of the fittest? Some people are clueless. That's what the car horn is for.

    However, you should adjust your mirrors (or get better mirrors / attachment) to minimize blind spot.

    MIRROR ADJUST (for car):
    Lean left, adjust left mirror so you barely see the side of the car
    Lean right, adjust right mirror so you barely see the side of the car
    Refer to your local driving school for more information
     
  20. OutThere macrumors 603

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    I have taken a some extra care in crossing the road ever since I stepped out past a stopped bus and into traffic after misinterpreting the driver's gestures to mean "go ahead". In fact, she must have meant "don't go", something I soon realized when a white Renault skidded into me, its hood buckling under my weight before throwing me bodily to the pavement. I was unharmed and continued on with my day, high as a kite off of the adrenaline for quite some time afterward. :D

    edit:
    I did more damage to his car (bent hood) than he did to me, if that counts :D
     
  21. philbeeney macrumors 6502

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    This is what pisses me off as well. Drivers are over the white line looking left for on-coming traffic, completely oblivious that the pedestrian has the right of way. As soon as it's all clear, they hit the gas followed by the brakes when they suddenly see that you're walking in front of them. I've lost count the number of times I've given them abuse for not looking. I'm still waiting for my first bonnet / hood stunt man impersonation.
     
  22. maflynn Moderator

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    Good info, some cars/trucks have larger blind spots, for instance my Ridgeline as some pretty large blindspots that making backing up tricky, especially in a parking lot where there's pedestrians walking around
     
  23. OllyW Moderator

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    Back in the eighties I saw an American Mormon Missionary on a bicycle jump a red light at a crossroads (he got confused by us driving on the left hand side of the road) and have a head on collision with a Ford Escort. Someone was looking out for him that day because he escaped unhurt but the Escort was a write off.
     
  24. DeepIn2U macrumors 68040

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    THANK YOU!!!


    There are SO MANY ARROGANT DRIVERS out there ... that THINK/KNOW their great drivers due to driving so long; YET they don't follow the rules of owning a car, drivers license or paying attention. As a pedestrian & cyclist I can tell you the following:

    * Stop Sign or Stop Light! Come to a FRIGGING COMPLETE STOP! :mad:
    - ANY metropolis in the world has this. I can guarantee 10 ppl who drive on these boards in less than 3 days on ANY stop sign/light creeps to a slow ... "MAY" look both ways and jump the gas ... thinking ALL is GOOD. No stopping.

    * A DRIVERS LICENSE is a PRIVILEGE!
    - a PRIVILEGE! Not a right!!
    ^ read again 20 times when you grab your car keys before jumping in your car ... I can guarantee you'll be MORE ALERT, MORE CAUTIOUS and possibly even reduce road rage.

    * I love loud music just like any teen does ... but when driving at least turn your heads and be more alert as you may not hear a sonic bell a loud shout or that bike/person you just rode over when the windows are up.

    * why on EARTH does every 'experienced' car driver stick the car out PAST the side walk parallel before even getting a 2minute chance for making a turn?!
    - Many times all over Toronto I see this, walking, standing or biking and even if I goto the drivers vantage point they can CLEARLY see without sticking the car all the way into the right-lane to "nudge" a spot.

    Now in defence of cautious drivers ... I do agree that streetcars have no effective reasoning for being on roads - other than a city cash grab.
    - They are NOT more efficient than a diesel/biofuel/hydrogen bus.
    - they block traffic in all lanes of the same direction in a serious accident.
    - they cannot TURN out of the left lane when cars ahead intend to turn left!
    - pedestrians HAVE TO GET OFF ONTO THE STREET just to get to the side walk?!!! WHO's dumb-ass idea was this!? (This is what its like in Toronto).
    - The mayor, and now provincial and federal budget & tax grab:
    more tracks to be laid by ripping out old rusted tracks from in the ground. Construction is dog-ass slow (dog-humping union workers taking some odd 20hrs plus just street watching than working) and also causes SLOW traffic in the only 1 lane available - which is stopped even on a green for reaching a stop and pedestrians have to go onto the street, cross that lane just to reach the sidewalk.
     

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