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JT2002TJ

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For those of you with the pencil (us lucky bunch), why did they design it with a male end... Shouldn't they have done the opposite? Make the end under the cap female? Then have an accessory that is a male to male for pairing? This way you can plug in your lightning cable into it for charging? Since you will spend far less time pairing vs. charging?

I just opened it and started using it, so I'm not all that versed on it. It is nice to use for normal ipad functions (rather than using your finger).

Thoughts?
 

riffola

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Check the included manual booklet area for the Lightning to Lightning connector adapter. That way you can charge with a cable.
 

JT2002TJ

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Check the included manual booklet area for the Lightning to Lightning connector adapter. That way you can charge with a cable.

Yes, I understand the female to female connector for charging. My point is, it would seem like this connector (adapter) should have been male to male, and the end of the pencil should have been female. This way, you plug the wire directly in the the pen for charging, and when you need to pair, you use the male to male adapter for the 2 seconds it takes to pair.

I mean, once you pair, do you ever need to pair again?
 

riffola

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I think the way it is designed is so that you can top up the Pencil quickly by plugging it into the iPad Pro directly. I believe 30s of charge is supposed to last a day or more. It makes sense, with the stellar battery of iPads in general, you're quite likely to be out and about without a lightning cable handy. If the battery on the pencil is low, plug it in and get a quick charge.
 
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JT2002TJ

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I think the way it is designed is so that you can top up the Pencil quickly by plugging it into the iPad Pro directly. I believe 30s of charge is supposed to last a day or more. It makes sense, with the stellar battery of iPads in general, you're quite likely to be out and about without a lightning cable handy. If the battery on the pencil is low, plug it in and get a quick charge.

Thats possible. How do you even know how much charge is left on the pencil? Also not a fan of not having a way to attache it. The cover (keyboard cover) should have had a slot to slide it in...
 

riffola

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Thats possible. How do you even know how much charge is left on the pencil? Also not a fan of not having a way to attache it. The cover (keyboard cover) should have had a slot to slide it in...
It shows up in the notification center in the battery widget. Just like the Apple Watch does on the iPhone.
 
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JT2002TJ

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It shows up in the notification center in the battery widget. Just like the Apple Watch does on the iPhone.

Perfect!!! Thanks.

Also not a huge fan of the cap covering the end. It doesn't have a "place" to store it while being charging, and I see it getting lost.
 

npolly0212

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Perfect!!! Thanks.

Also not a huge fan of the cap covering the end. It doesn't have a "place" to store it while being charging, and I see it getting lost.
Another thread said it is magnetized and you can stick it to the pencil too. Look a few threads down
 
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JT2002TJ

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Another thread said it is magnetized and you can stick it to the pencil too. Look a few threads down

It isn't strong enough to stay there when typing. If you move the ipp around while typing it will fall.
 

clint-bell

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For those of you with the pencil (us lucky bunch), why did they design it with a male end... Shouldn't they have done the opposite? Make the end under the cap female? Then have an accessory that is a male to male for pairing? This way you can plug in your lightning cable into it for charging? Since you will spend far less time pairing vs. charging?

I just opened it and started using it, so I'm not all that versed on it. It is nice to use for normal ipad functions (rather than using your finger).

Thoughts?

I think plugging it in to the iPad is the quickest way of pairing it to your iPad Pro, and like me who isn't willing to plug the pencil into the iPad Pro to charge, Apple will take more of my money when I go to buy the adapter!
 
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M-5

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I think it makes sense. Designing the Pencil with the male end makes it more of a pick-up and ready to use type of device. All you need to do is plug it into the iPad and its automatically paired and ready to use. If it needs juice, you just leave it plugged in a little longer. That's intuitive.

If it was a female end, then you would need the customer to have to read the manual probably to realize you need to use the adapter to pair it to your iPad. And if the adapter is lost down the line, or if you don't manage to have it with you if for some reason your iPad doesn't recognize your Pencil after an update or something, then your pencil is useless until you find your adapter or get another one.

It's also helpful to be able to charge your Pencil in a pinch using your iPad if you're on the go and realize your Pencil needs some power.

I love the all-white design. It's very elegant and solid, and it makes it easy to spot.
 

3goldens

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The only design flaw I see is the fact that one takes the cap off to charge the dam thing and have no place to put it! I know I will loose this at some point so that to me is a real design flaw!
 
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JT2002TJ

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The only design flaw I see is the fact that one takes the cap off to charge the dam thing and have no place to put it! I know I will loose this at some point so that to me is a real design flaw!

That is one of them. I see it like this:

1. Cap should attach like it does to the back, but when charging, cover the nub end.
2. There should be two versions, current length and standard pencil/pen length (long for drawing, short for writing)
3. There should be a pen hook, so it can hook onto things (Shirt pockets, bag pen holders).
4. Should have a strong magnetic attraction to the side of the ipad for transport.
 

jamesarm97

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FYI, if anyone has a 3D Printer that can print with flexible filament, I designed a holder that keeps the lightning port adapter on the end of the cable so you won't loose it.
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1158446
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JT2002TJ

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FYI, if anyone has a 3D Printer that can print with flexible filament, I designed a holder that keeps the lightning port adapter on the end of the cable so you won't loose it.

That's cool. I'm going to send you a PM.
 
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