pentium M powerBook????

[emotion]

Lets just agree to disagree. Peace.

ok, but no offence was intended.

 

[eVolcre]

ok, but no offence was intended.

None taken (now I mean). I flared up for no reason. Blame the idiots on the other end of my conference call at work.

 

[weg]

So what's the point of this forum then? We could find all information off google. In the time it took you to type that you could have told me about the cube and we may have had a nice discussion. Now I just think you're a jerk.

The G4 cube exists... the Apple reseller where I bought my Powerbook a few weeks ago even offered a refurbished one..

I googled this for you, just to give you no reason to think that I'm a jerk

http://www.lowendmac.com/ppc/cube.html

It was actually discontinued in June 2001.

 

[eVolcre]

The G4 cube exists... the Apple reseller where I bought my Powerbook a few weeks ago even offered a refurbished one..

I googled this for you, just to give you no reason to think that I'm a jerk

http://www.lowendmac.com/ppc/cube.html

It was actually discontinued in June 2001.

You guys are tagteaming up on me. *sniff*) You're ALL jerks!

I always thought that the cube was a mid 90's machine. I bought my G4 power book .. umm ... late 2002 or early 2003. It was the first one released. So I automatically assumed that the G4 chip was new. It was out in 2001? So APPLE used the same chip for close to 3 or 4 years> Sheesh, another reason why this is a good switch.

 

[Crikey]

I disagree with you that they wont drop prices. They drop prices all the time when they can afford to. Using x86 will force them to drop prices. Their marketshare would fall if they didn't drop prices. Pretty cases and a great os aren't enough for most people. If they see a PC a few hundred less with the same specs minus the white case and OS X most would say "o'well, guess i'm running longhorn"

I don't expect any price drops besides what we'd naturally see over a two-year span in the tech industry. I doubt Intel charges less for chips than IBM and Motorola/FreeScale do; Intel just makes better margins thanks to economies of scale.

Nothing about the switch to x86 will force Apple to drop prices; rather, they will have a lot of redesign costs to amortize over the first generations of Intel-based Macs.

Pretty cases and a great OS are enough for the small percentage of people that Apple targets. Margins are much more important to Apple than market share is. Apple is very comfortable targeting people who know what they want and will pay a couple hundred more dollars to get it.

Maybe that's only 3% of the population buying computers, but it's enough to make Apple the fifth-largest personal computer manufacturer in the world.


Crikey

 

[Brother Michael]

I totally agree with what you are saying about margins.

All business is:
Price, Service, Quality.

Pick two. If you pick price you will get bottom feeders. Apple has choosen for Service and Quality.

I am getting one (intel powerbook) as soon as they come out.

My G3 iBook will last me until then. <--a classic example of Quality and Service.

Mike

 

[Crikey]

I would hazard a guess that the first Intel Powerbooks (if they're still to be called "Power"books...) would be equipped with dual-core Pentium-M's (Yonah), and the iBooks with single-core Pentium-M's (Dothan).

That would allow Apple to maintain a simple differentiation between the two notebook lines - dual core for the power user and single core for the standard consumer. No longer any fear of the top-end iBooks overlapping the low-end Powerbook market.

( . . . )

I hope your optimistic projection trumps my realistic one: that the "professional" line (what are now called PowerBooks) will run either Dothan or Yonah, and the "consumer" line (iBooks, iMacs, and the Mac mini) will run Intel's "consumer" CPU, the Celeron. Intel already provides for product differentiation of the type you describe, and the results aren't inspiring on the consumer side.


Crikey

 

[Brother Michael]

Actually, I would think that Apple would have the Pentium M in the Powerbook and the Centrino in the iBook.

Mike

 

[eVolcre]

This may sound selfish but the Powerbook is the only one I care about. I have a feeling that's where Apple is going to focus on too. IBooks are typically low price, low margin typically bought my educators and students. They use the edu discount which brings reduces even more profit. The powerbooks are targetting the corporate and 'high' end laptop users. The sexy Powerbooks can also entice switchers. Me thinks thats where the focus will be next year. Dual core Yonahs, ultralight, widescreen, new design, maybe dual boot with windows. *drools* can't wait man, can't wait. I'll be pre ordering the first ones, bugs or no bugs. Will pick up Applecare this time though

 

[Brother Michael]

This may sound selfish but the Powerbook is the only one I care about. I have a feeling that's where Apple is going to focus on too. IBooks are typically low price, low margin typically bought my educators and students. They use the edu discount which brings reduces even more profit. The powerbooks are targetting the corporate and 'high' end laptop users. The sexy Powerbooks can also entice switchers. Me thinks thats where the focus will be next year. Dual core Yonahs, ultralight, widescreen, new design, maybe dual boot with windows. *drools* can't wait man, can't wait. I'll be pre ordering the first ones, bugs or no bugs. Will pick up Applecare this time though

I totally agree.

However (you had to know that was coming), nothing sticks out better than an all white notebook in a room full of oddly colored Dells and HP's and etc.

Mike

 

[eVolcre]

The powerbook silver color stands out too me thinks. Check out the other thread, I have put in my vote for a ferrari red powerbook.

Actually, jokes aside, they are bound to redesign the powerbook next year. But the current design is so functional, professoinal and stylish that I'm not sure how they would beat it.

Carbon fiber? Rubber? I like the idea of a gunmental grey or maybe even COPPER. A copper/rust color would work really well!

 

[panphage]

You guys are tagteaming up on me. *sniff*) You're ALL jerks!

I always thought that the cube was a mid 90's machine. I bought my G4 power book .. umm ... late 2002 or early 2003. It was the first one released. So I automatically assumed that the G4 chip was new. It was out in 2001? So APPLE used the same chip for close to 3 or 4 years> Sheesh, another reason why this is a good switch.

I OWN a G4 cube. I guess you don't remember the "Happy Birthday, G4" article? The G4 was stuck at 500mhz for AN ENTIRE YEAR. And this is after apple sold people 500mhz g4s at a certain price and then shipped 450s instead. With no price change. OUCH! Anyway, yes, the G4 is pretty old. And the cube is an old machine, as the poster said, discontinued in 2001. And the intel upgrade card for the cube is totally a hoax.

 

[eVolcre]

I OWN a G4 cube. I guess you don't remember the "Happy Birthday, G4" article? The G4 was stuck at 500mhz for AN ENTIRE YEAR. And this is after apple sold people 500mhz g4s at a certain price and then shipped 450s instead. With no price change. OUCH! Anyway, yes, the G4 is pretty old. And the cube is an old machine, as the poster said, discontinued in 2001. And the intel upgrade card for the cube is totally a hoax.

I had a LCII in '91. Then switched to PC's in 93 and didn't come back to the MAC until I bought my powerbook in late 2002. So I don't know too much of the inside info, just what I've learned form this site in the last few years. The CUBE looked like an awesome machine and I knew it flopped which is why it was discountinued. But man -- stuck at one speed for a year? Shipping wrong speeds? I didn't think it was THAT bad.

A few years ago I might have considered picking up an old Cube or even making a case for a CUBE part 2. Now, with the advances in mobile computing and my preferences there is NO way I will ever own a desktop. A powerful laptop with MAYBE a screen at home. For me at least, the age of the desktop has ended. Mobile all the way ....

 

[gamestriker]

I haven't decided whether I will get the first revision or second revision Mactintel PowerBooks (looking at that 15" ). I have a 12" that I bought in February for college and just bought RAM for it (1GB = <$200), so it should serve me perfectly for the next couple years. I may even wait for the Rev C Macintel PowerBooks, depending on what happens between now and then.

I'm sure though that they will kick butt, and will likely have the Yonah dual core in the first revision. I'm only worried about the bugs. Though, Apple knows what to look out for now, and since OS X has been tested with Intel for 5 years now, the only bugs that should come out are hardware related, possibly sleeping/waking issues.