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People are still completely ignorant about Macs

I don't really find it all that shocking anymore. There's still a great number of people who don't believe you can right click on a mac.
 
Here's what I wrote. I could have gone on and on but I had to stop somewhere :D

me said:
Where do I begin?

One of the assumptions people used to have about Macs was that they were only used by those in the creative fields, such as desktop publishing, graphic design, and video editing. That no longer is the case as we approach 2008. Macs are used in every field PCs are, including education, business, science and engineering.

One of the major advantages of the Mac OS X operating system over Windows XP and Vista is the advanced security that is built-in. Our society is used to the concept of viruses and spyware, because the majority of computers run Windows. There is something wrong with this. What if you bought a brand new car and had to immediately take it to the service department to upgrade your brakes, tires, engine and transmission, simply because they weren't good enough for the road? That is similar to PCs today. You buy a Dell with XP, and you are advised by your sales representitive to buy Norton anti-virus because the out-of-the-box operating system will run into problems once connected to the Internet.

Is this how a computer should be? No.

Why is Windows like this? It is simply based on the core of the OS. Microsoft uses a closed-source approach, while Apple uses an open-source approach. Meaning, the only people who work on Microsoft's operating system are Microsoft employees, while Apple utilizes the expertise of developers from within the community across the globe who care about quality software, not just the next week's paycheck. Apple's use of Unix at its core is the main reason why there are virtually no viruses and spyware for Mac OS X. I end up explaining this to people all the time. They are shocked. But it's the way it should be. By default, this model that Microsoft uses automatically complicates their system. One has to be extra careful on a PC, while on a Mac you can work away and be assured that the system is protecting you.

If you think Macs are rarely used, walk into a coffee shop, or walk through a college campus. They are showing up everywhere. If you think Macs have "little to no third party compatible software", open your eyes. According to Apple's website there are over 23,000 products. Maybe there aren't 5,000 MP3 players, but what the majority of people need exists. Take a look at macupdate.com or versiontracker.com - new apps are being released daily. Yes there are still companies that are behind with software updates for the Mac, but others are filling the gaps. Additionally, the Mac can run Windows natively and through virtualization.

The only reasons I can see why you wouldn't want to buy a Mac today are: a) you're a hard-core gamer, b) you like to tinker with every piece of hardware, or c) you enjoy reading vague error messages.
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Seriously I've given up on this mac vs pc debate.

Do what you want, but we'll see who's crying when their computer crashes and they lose everything.
:p

And I honestly, I have a lot better things to do in my spare time then delete spyware.
 
CalBoy said:
Isn't it for an online class? Either way, I want to see this guy's response!
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Yes it is, but it isn't that strict on grammar. It's in a discussion format. Had I been writing a paper, yes I would have removed use of "you" :)
 
Does he even know what "multimedia" is? Doesn't sound like it. Though he did get sucked into buying a Mac at some point because he owns one, so what does that tell you.:rolleyes:
 
CalBoy said:
Ahh, ok. :)

Be sure to post that guy's reply! ;)
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Actually after re-reading it I did mix "you" and "one" in the same sentences. Oh well.

I will definitely post his reply, if he ever does.
 
Here's his reply. He's still clueless as ever:

I'd rather not turn this into an Mac VS. PC debate.
When it really comes down to it, it's a matter of preference really. But as you stated, gamers and tinkerers would most likely prefer PC. But as a Mac AND PC user, they both have their fair share of Error Messages. And as a hater of Mac, it is because the Mac error messages offer no cause OR solution for the error message. Unless you are a trained Mac technician, there is no way of deciphering the error code that pops up or finding out WHY it popped up to begin with.

As Mac continues in the INTEL field, they are becoming easier to work with and more software and hardware becomes available and compatible with them. However, they are still behind, and most likely always will until they start regaining some popularity in the computing market. As far as I'm concerned, I'm not interested in paying MORE money for something that I can't upgrade every year except for RAM and Hard Drive, which means I need to replace it every time something becomes obsolete. Pain in the butt really.

And again, as for security, Macs pose the same issues as Microsoft does, only as I stated before, since viruses are designed to do damage with malicious intent, and since no one cares about Macs, and the majority of computer users are PC users, it makes sense the majority of viruses are written for Microsoft based software. This is not to say that Mac doesn't have their own problems with viruses and spyware. As I've been down that road many times with my Mac.
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dummy said:
But as a Mac AND PC user, they both have their fair share of Error Messages. And as a hater of Mac, it is because the Mac error messages offer no cause OR solution for the error message. Unless you are a trained Mac technician, there is no way of deciphering the error code that pops up or finding out WHY it popped up to begin with.
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most errors on the mac aren't major errors that will crash the computer. i don't know too much about this, but i notice that you get more major errors on windows than on macs.

loser said:
As Mac continues in the INTEL field, they are becoming easier to work with and more software and hardware becomes available and compatible with them. However, they are still behind, and most likely always will until they start regaining some popularity in the computing market. As far as I'm concerned, I'm not interested in paying MORE money for something that I can't upgrade every year except for RAM and Hard Drive, which means I need to replace it every time something becomes obsolete. Pain in the butt really.
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just because windows has tons more programs out there doesn't mean they are all as high as quality as mac programs. i've tried alot of windows downloads and about 80% of them are garbage, and they look ugly to boot. at least 95% of mac apps are high quality and look nice. and again, thousands of mac apps, so it's not like the mac apps exploded when intel came through, but instead, got more notice in the public eye. why don't we hear much about non commercial apps for windows? because most of them are trash, but we hear alot about mac apps. hmm...

and btw, you can't upgrade most pc laptops expect memory and hard drive, so at least for portables, the non upgrade issue is moot. and why must we upgrade something every single year? some do, but others are fine with their hardware for years before they replace them. and apple's marketshare among portables are in the teens (not exactly where though), which means that people aren't really concerned about upgrading their hardware every year. desktops are another story though...

idiot said:
And again, as for security, Macs pose the same issues as Microsoft does, only as I stated before, since viruses are designed to do damage with malicious intent, and since no one cares about Macs, and the majority of computer users are PC users, it makes sense the majority of viruses are written for Microsoft based software. This is not to say that Mac doesn't have their own problems with viruses and spyware. As I've been down that road many times with my Mac.
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despite part of the reason why mac os x has less hackers is because windows has majority marketshare, windows is way less secure than mac os x. i wonder if unix rings a bell. and btw, name me a mac virus or mac spyware.
 
This is not to say that Mac doesn't have their its own problems with viruses and spyware.
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OMGZ!!1 my MAC has teh spywarez????

Jesus, he needs to crawl out of his Linux bubble and embrace some technology. I'd also like him to show me what he thinks is spyware OS X-style, unless he classes Software Update as spyware. I mean, imagine that, a program that sends your hardware and application details via an encrypted method to Apple so you can download updates that keep everything working smoothly. Spyware if I ever saw it.

And on one of his previous points about peripheral recognition, the only thing my Mac refused to connect to was my Logitech webcam and that was fixed in 10.4.9. Everything else: my Canon 300D, Fuji S5600, RAZR and Nokia E61 have all been fine. The other thing that doesn't work at the moment is my first gen iPod nano but methinks that's more to do with cable fraying.
 
You should ask him if he indeed actually has a Mac. He mentioned how often he's been "down that road" with Mac viruses and spywares. I think we can all safely assume he's lying.

Also, he's the one who brought up the topic of Macs to begin with and had all sorts of bad things to say about it. And with your response, he states how he would "rather not turn this into a debate". :rolleyes:

You need to take a direct attack against his fallacious nonsense. That'll put him in his place. :D

You're a much better writer BTW. But I wouldnt mention that in your "debate". ;)
 
I guess he didn't realize my last part about vague error messages was a joke. But come on, how many times do you see random hex numbers in a Windows error message compared to on the Mac. Or even problems with DLLs. Those seem to appear quite often.

I'm not going to respond anymore just because I have enough posts for the week's grade ;)

Sesshi said:
It's as wrong and possibly even more fanboyish than the thing you're replying to and his reply contains more accurate points than yours, but at least yours is better written. :p
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What? You think my reply was worse than his in terms of content?
 
jaydub said:
I don't really find it all that shocking anymore. There's still a great number of people who don't believe you can right click on a mac.
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Ugh, I know! :rolleyes: And even when that was true, that was the best they had. Pretty pathetic.
 
GSMiller said:
Ugh, I know! :rolleyes: And even when that was true, that was the best they had. Pretty pathetic.
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While I was thinking about switching a classmate's main argument against mac was apparently that shortcuts take twelve fingers. After switching, I have no idea what he was talking about. Plus I heard the mouse thing too.
 
GSMiller said:
Ugh, I know! :rolleyes: And even when that was true, that was the best they had. Pretty pathetic.
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Mac OS X Ocelot said:
While I was thinking about switching a classmate's main argument against mac was apparently that shortcuts take twelve fingers. After switching, I have no idea what he was talking about. Plus I heard the mouse thing too.
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Put them all in touch with me. I'll give them more ammo than even they can handle :D

If you want a real writing challenge kainjow, you know what to do (↑) ;)
 
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