People Who Drive Slow in the Fast Lane

[EricNau]

I wouldn't go so far as to kill someone. If I killed them, how could they learn a lesson?

-Don

What if your actions unintentionally led to the death of another? What would it take for you to learn your lesson?

Your car is a lethal piece of machinery over which you have only limited control, even less so when you go over the speed limit.

Remember, no one enters their car with the intention of making a lethal mistake, but it happens all across the country every day to hundreds of individuals, many of which thought exactly what you're thinking right now.

Just ponder it.

 

[Dmac77]

nothing wrong? and what if she didnt swerve, hit you in the back, and the collision causes the death of, lets say, 1 or 2 people. but you, mr. safe driver felt obligated to teach her a lesson.

In that case, maybe she should have moved. On second thought, that's a little blunt of me. Sure I would feel bad, but I wouldn't be wracked with guilt over it. I only punish people with my antics, when they do something to sufficiently piss me off. Had she not brakechecked me I would have just passed, and gone on my way. But she deserved what I did, and had it caused her death, well I guess she deserved it in a way; bad karma happens for a reason.

-Don

 

[CalBoy]

And then there's a thing called the speed limit. Doesn't matter if she did 45, 55, or 65. She's still in the right.

Well that's not entirely right either. Driving too slowly, especially in the fast lane, can get you a ticket as well.

It all comes down to reasonableness and safety. I don't think most posters in this thread object to drivers who go faster than the posted limit when they are cautious, calm, and experienced.

The OP's attitude is shocking because it is full of youthful arrogance of the type that usually ends up in a Red Asphalt video.

 

[ucfgrad93]

I'm sorry, but if you're the guy that goes 70mph in the fast lane and refuses to move, you are at fault for what ever I chose to dish out to you, for not having the common courtesy to move your car.

-Don

You won't be intending to kill someone, but if you get in an accident at or above freeway speeds, you or someone else will be killed wether you are trying to kill them or not, and even if you game the system to get off of any charges you will still have to live with the fact that you killed someone.

Doesn't sound like Dmac would really care. After all, the other guy is at fault because they didn't have the common courtesy to move the car.

 

[Bomino]

Good luck tracking my actual identity down. And also good luck getting anything you dug up admitted in court, because there is absolutely nothing legal about introducing any evidence of my identity you found by tying this account back to my IP/ISP without a warrant.

-Don

you just admitted that what you are doing is wrong.

 

[Dmac77]

you just admitted that what you are doing is wrong.

Uh no I didn't. I just interpreted the law. As someone implied earlier, this could all be a ruse. I might not have done anything I said in this thread. No one here can know 100% for sure, because you did not witness the event I claim occurred. That simple fact, in addition to any record searching anyone did without a warrant (which would be an invasion of privacy) would get anything I say in this thread thrown out of court faster than you could blink.

-Don

 

[Crawn2003]

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Wow, your mom willingly caused a wreck, sued the guy, and you are proud of it. Man, you and your family are just pathetic.

I really don't think it is necessary to call me or any member of my family "pathetic." There's nothing wrong with manipulating the system to your advantage, if you do it for a valid purpose (such as teaching a crappy driver a lesson).

-Don

Unless someone uses the system against you and to their advantage, then I bet you'd lose your cool and be crying foul.

 

[Crawn2003]

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And then there's a thing called the speed limit. Doesn't matter if she did 45, 55, or 65. She's still in the right.

You're getting your 16 year old, testosterone panties in a twist yet you admit that you went over the speed limit that you cherish so much by at least 20mph. You admit you (but not in so many words because you have that 16yo complex of I gotta be right) drove recklessly all to teach a lesson that is really not yours to teach. That is for the highway patrol and driving school.

Regardless of what your inexperienced mind may believe, she was in the right and actually doing nothing wrong. She was traveling the speed limit. She was minding her own business until a little 16yo know-it-all comes along driving with minimum experience and equally inexperienced driver next to him.

Unfortunate for you this seems to be a running trait in your family. Inexperience. Just because your uncle is a sitting judge doesn't make him a god. On the contrary, he's as idiotic and inexperienced as you.

Now kid, no matter how much you slap those jaws of yours together you are wrong. We don't care that your mommy was sitting next you or that your uncle is the judge. Go ahead a drive however you want. Frankly I see your kind every day on the road.

I'm that guy over in the left lane driving 70. I'm that guy you have to race up to and ride my bumper and zoom past me flipping me off.

But I'm the guy that's laughing at you because honestly at the end of the day, you are just a little 16yo with a giant ego stuck up your rear.

You're also the guy that will wreck his car because I force you to, and you're also the guy that I will then sue to pay for my deductible and any applicable medical costs. And I'm the guy that will laugh in your face and say "gonna move for me next time?" as I walk out of court and you cut me a check.

I'm sorry, but if you're the guy that goes 70mph in the fast lane and refuses to move, you are at fault for what ever I chose to dish out to you, for not having the common courtesy to move your car.

-Don

I'm the guy I hope you kill so they put you away where you deserve to be.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

Uh no I didn't. I just interpreted the law. As someone implied earlier, this could all be a ruse. I might not have done anything I said in this thread. No one here can know 100% for sure, because you did not witness the event I claim occurred. That simple fact, in addition to any record searching anyone did without a warrant would be an invasion of privacy would get anything I say in this thread thrown out of court faster than you could blink.

-Don

guess what.
This thread could be enough to get a warrant to prove your who you are.
Also Arn could easily hand over you IP tracing you down even father along with your email address which is all legal and could be submitted to court as he freely handed over his privates data to the cops.

 

[dukebound85]

Uh no I didn't. I just interpreted the law. As someone implied earlier, this could all be a ruse. I might not have done anything I said in this thread. No one here can know 100% for sure, because you did not witness the event I claim occurred. That simple fact, in addition to any record searching anyone did without a warrant would be an invasion of privacy would get anything I say in this thread thrown out of court faster than you could blink.

-Don

OP, I do find it amusing you think you know the intricacies of the law just because your uncle is a judge

Until you have the education/training yourself, I would not be so confident in your opinions...especially as one who has not even finished hs

I also advise you to stop digging yourself in a hole. I feel you are rapidly losing any credibility/respect that many long time posters previously had of you due to this very, and I mean very childish and selfish mindset you are exhibiting in this thread

 

[Bomino]

Uh no I didn't. I just interpreted the law. As someone implied earlier, this could all be a ruse. I might not have done anything I said in this thread. No one here can know 100% for sure, because you did not witness the event I claim occurred. That simple fact, in addition to any record searching anyone did without a warrant (which would be an invasion of privacy) would get anything I say in this thread thrown out of court faster than you could blink.

-Don

fair enough, let me reword that: you just admitted that the person going 90mph, intentionally cuts off the other, and slams breaks in this hypothetical scenario is the one thats doing the wrong. give me a break.

EDIT: I'm not saying any of this is usable in court (even though i would), Im just saying that throughout this entire thread, your telling everyone how right you are, yet in the post i quoted, you admitted that your actions are wrong.

 

[Dmac77]

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I'm the guy I hope you kill so they put you away where you deserve to be.

Wow, and I'm the immature one???

guess what.
This thread could be enough to get a warrant to prove your who you are.
Also Arn could easily hand over you IP tracing you down even father along with your email address which is all legal and could be submitted to court as he freely handed over his privates data to the cops.

sure Arn could do that, but then the cops have to prove that I actually did this, and they also have to prove who at my house typed this. It could be me, it could be my mother, it could be my brother, it could be my grandmother. There is no way to know who actually typed this. That's where it all falls apart.

OP, I do find it amusing you think you know the intricacies of the law just because your uncle is a judge

Until you have the education/training yourself, I would not be so confident in your opinions...especially as one who has not even finished hs

I also advise you to stop digging yourself in a hole. I feel you are rapidly losing any credibility/respect that many long time posters previously had of you due to this very, and I mean very childish and selfish mindset you are exhibiting in this thread

If a few people on MacRumors find me to be childish, I really couldn't care less. Believe me, what you guys think of me is not going to ruin my chances of getting into an Ivy League school, or from becoming a successful adult.

-Don

 

[ucfgrad93]

If a few people on MacRumors find me to be childish, I really couldn't care less. Believe me, what you guys think of me is not going to ruin my chances of getting into an Ivy League school, or from becoming a successful adult.

-Don

No, you'll ruin them well enough on your own.

 

[Dmac77]

fair enough, let me reword that: you just admitted that the person going 90mph, intentionally cuts off the other, and slams breaks in this hypothetical scenario is the one thats doing the wrong. give me a break.

EDIT: I'm not saying any of this is usable in court (even though i would), Im just saying that throughout this entire thread, your telling everyone how right you are, yet in the post i quoted, you admitted that your actions are wrong.

I never said my actions were morally right. I'll admit that my actions are probably very immoral, and ethically wrong. The simple fact is I don't care about how people view my morality or ethics. Why should I care what people think of me. I never said it bothers me that you guys are not agreeing with me, all I said is that I find it laughable.

EDIT: @uscfgrad93 - No I won't ruin them, unless my 4.2 GPA, 36 ACT score, 2400 SAT score, and nearly 2500 hours of volunteer work over the past two years count as ruining them. Oh also add in both of my parents' alumni status with Harvard, and there donations every year

-Don

 

[Rodimus Prime]

If a few people on MacRumors find me to be childish, I really couldn't care less. Believe me, what you guys think of me is not going to ruin my chances of getting into an Ivy League school, or from becoming a successful adult.

-Don

Hmm and my opinion of Ivy League schools goes down more.
Shows that many who go in and come out of there are unethical. Explains why so much wrong with the country because it is lead by the unethical people.

Like I said before I hope and pray you never get in position that requires ethics because clearly you have none and your parents fail to teach you any.
That and it looks like you come from family with out ethics.

 

[ucfgrad93]

I never said my actions were morally right. I'll admit that my actions are probably very immoral, and ethically wrong. The simple fact is I don't care about how people view my morality or ethics. Why should I care what people think of me. I never said it bothers me that you guys are not agreeing with me, all I said is that I find it laughable.

-Don

This is the same attitude that people like Bernie Madoff, Kenneth Lay, etc had as they totally scammed thousands of people out of billions of dollars.

 

[Dmac77]

This is the same attitude that people like Bernie Madoff, Kenneth Lay, etc had as they totally scammed thousands of people out of billions of dollars.

Well I will openly admit that I have a low opinion of those who get burned in investment scams. If you're stupid enough to think you're going to get the kind of returns promised to you by the likes of Madoff, then you deserve to lose your money. But that's off topic.

-Don

 

[dukebound85]

Well I will openly admit that I have a low opinion of those who get burned in investment scams. If you're stupid enough to think you're going to get the kind of returns promised to you by the likes of Madoff, then you deserve to lose your money. But that's off topic.

-Don

Why are you so cold hearted?

Why do you feel you are somehow better than everyone else?

Why do you not feel you need to abide by society's laws and furthermore, why do you not have any sense of ethics or morals?

I am especially shocked that you have these views after stating you have volunteered 2500 hrs (or over 100 continuous days) in the last 2 years...I would think that this experience would have you develop a sense of compassion, not make you more cold hearted...

 

[Dmac77]

I don't know what kind of "cool" points you were expecting to get, but the left lane is not for people to drive as they see fit.

And yes I'm one of those people that will not slow down, but continue driving the speed limit. Flash me all you want, and tailgate all you want. The my mirrors are tinted for people like you, and the closer you get, the better view of your license plate I get to call into the police.

You think your a tough guy with the gun comment? I wish you would.

This is why I avoid Michigan like the plague that it is. ( no offense to decent people that somehow wound up there )

I would just pass you and go on my way. You may be a inconsiderate driver for not moving for faster traffic, but at least you aren't going to brakecheck me. There's no reason for me to do more than give you the finger.

-Don

 

[ucfgrad93]

Well I will openly admit that I have a low opinion of those who get burned in investment scams. If you're stupid enough to think you're going to get the kind of returns promised to you by the likes of Madoff, then you deserve to lose your money. But that's off topic.

-Don

No, I think it is right on target. Because, it shows your attitude in life. Your mom or you cause an accident on purpose, to teach a valid lesson (as you put it), but the other person is to blame for not being courteous. Someone scams people out of money, but it is the victims' fault for being stupid.

It clearly shows that you think that if you are strong enough or smart enough that you are entitled to take whatever you can without thought to legality or what is morally right or wrong.

I find it sad, that at 16 you are morally and ethically bankrupt.

 

[Dmac77]

Why are you so cold hearted?

Why do you feel you are somehow better than everyone else?

Why do you not feel you need to abide by society's laws and furthermore, why do you not have any sense of ethics or morals?

I am especially shocked that you have these views after stating you have volunteered 2500 hrs (or over 100 continuous days) in the last 2 years...I would think that this experience would have you develop a sense of compassion, not make you more cold hearted...

I volunteered only to further my college applications. I really couldn't give a crap about the people my work supposedly helped. All I care about is that it helped me.

I don't view myself as cold hearted, I view myself as being a realist. This "let's be nice to everyone" crap has turned 95% of society into blithering retarded bleeding hearts. I only care about people who I can use to further myself, or those who have genuinely done something caring for me (family); otherwise you are completely expendable to me (take note anyone who works under me in a decade). I do not feel that society's rules apply to me, because I simply know that I am better than many of the people in society; the rules (including speed limits) are there for lesser folk. Look at our pop culture, it shows how stupid most are. What you call morally and ethically bankrupt, I call opportunistic and motivated.

 

[ucfgrad93]

And yet, you sounded almost human when you posted about your grandparents and their cancer. Now we know otherwise.

 

[Dmac77]

And yet, you sounded almost human when you posted about your grandparents and their cancer. Now we know otherwise.

Because I actually care about my grandparents. They have done something genuine for me, they have cared for me, they have loved me, etc. Some random idiot woman in a minivan is just another person, why should I care about her? Because she is a human? I think not. I have no personal connection to that woman, I cannot feasibly or easily use her to advance myself, so why should I care what happens to her today, tomorrow, or 20 years from now? Logically, I shouldn't; emotionally and morally I should because she is another person, I think that is nonsensical.

-Don

 

[Rodimus Prime]

I volunteered only to further my college applications. I really couldn't give a crap about the people my work supposedly helped. All I care about is that it helped me.

I don't view myself as cold hearted, I view myself as being a realist. This "let's be nice to everyone" crap has turned 95% of society into blithering retarded bleeding hearts. I only care about people who I can use to further myself, or those who have genuinely done something caring for me (family); otherwise you are completely expendable to me (take note anyone who works under me in a decade). I do not feel that society's rules apply to me, because I simply know that I am better than many of the people in society; the rules (including speed limits) are there for lesser folk. Look at our pop culture, it shows how stupid most are. What you call morally and ethically bankrupt, I call opportunistic and motivated.

You are cold hearted.
Being a realist has nothing to do with your heart.

I personally view myself as a realist but I am far from cold hearted. I care about people.
People like you I feel no loss when they leave this world (no matter how they leave it) for it is a better place with out you.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

Because I actually care about my grandparents. They have done something genuine for me, they have cared for me, they have loved me, etc. Some random idiot woman in a minivan is just another person, why should I care about her? Because she is a human? I think not. I have no personal connection to that woman, I cannot feasibly or easily use her to advance myself, so why should I care what happens to her today, tomorrow, or 20 years from now? Logically, I shouldn't; emotionally and morally I should because she is another person, I think that is nonsensical.

-Don

You are showing your true colors. You have a lot to learn in this world. Have some bad things happen to you and learn when you have to depend on others to even get back on your feet much less keep on living.

Showing a helping hand to someone is just the right thing to do. You have advantages because you come from money. Learn to understand that fact. If it was not for that fact you would not be able to do nearly as much.

I can not believe I am going to say this but I hope that something comes and smacks you down and makes you have to beg just to get by and understand why you should care for others.