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It's not common anymore. They released a new chip in some and in others they improved the heat flow. My Elite is never too hot.


"They don't break down as much as they used to, but still more than competitors" is a POSITIVE point?

This doesn't seem like valid reasoning.


Remember how I said either they are mediocre or on xbox 360? ^_^

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Going on all the recent reports circulating the internet about warranties and replacements there under; the failure rate for the 360 is actually about 17%

Still vastly higher than the competitors, but not quite as high as people would have imagined.
 
So about 2 in every 10 people have problems with their 360.

HmMMmmMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. That's still bad.

4 of my good friends have 360s, 3 have already got replacements.

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Use efforcity.com

got hdmi for ps3 and component for wii for only like 15 shipped
 
I'll go out on a limb and say a lot of the overheating ---> Red Ring is from ill informed people with their xbox in a entertainment center. Or they live in Arizona and their house is warm.

My Elite runs beautifully.

If you treat the 360 as it should then it won't have any problems.

You don't let your laptop or PC sit in an enclosed location now do you?

-Rich L.
 
Actually its 1.7 ;) I didn't say it was good, I just said it wasn't as high as many of us would have thought it was (we all assumed around 33% which is twice as much as it is).

Here's the definition of "about" for future reference:

about |əˈbout|
3 (used with a number or quantity) approximately.

See, I can also be anal. :p But 33% sounds about right. I'm an optimist. :)

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This is a game console, it should last for years, if not a decade. It should be fine in an enteraiment cabinet and in a hotter environment. My friend's excuse, was that his son played it to death -- that's just sad.

And overheating isn't the 360's only problem. Don't forget disc read errors, video card failures, hard drive freezes, and power issues. MS always offers lots of features with their products.

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just to add - i just bought a PS3 (after my first one broke , i got another replacment)

COD4 on PS3 is not as good IMO as the 360 version , maybe its me getting used to the controllers again i'm not sure but i'm not wowed with it :eek:

bluray is ok - but i can't really tell between HDDVD or bluray.

downloaded a few demo's from the store - F1 , GT and Motorstorm F1 is mmm ok GT is nothing on Forza and motorstorm is ok but not the same as say Dirt.

what i am playing is PES 2008 but what's with the online bit there ? i have to sign up just to get online instead of using the PS3 online servers.

My bit so far -

so to brake it down on how much i play each console at the mo :

Xbox 360 - 70% of the time
PS3 20%
Wii 10% got to love them Wii Sports games :D

oh and whats with the PS3 looking like a coffin :D
 
oh and whats with the PS3 looking like a coffin :D

lol. It looks okay. I like the look of a vertical Elite personally.

This is a game console, it should last for years, if not a decade. It should be fine in an enteraiment cabinet and in a hotter environment. My friend's excuse, was that his son played it to death -- that's just sad.

And overheating isn't the 360's only problem. Don't forget disc read errors, video card failures, hard drive freezes, and power issues. MS always offers lots of features with their products.

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Electronics are getting hotter and hotter. Especially Gaming machines (PC, unless you have a lot of fans or water cooling). The consoles only get cooler when they release the better chips as they did with the new 360's. It went from like 95 nm to 65 nm and then to 45 nm or something. We could let our N64's, PS2s, and Dreamcasts sit in enclosed areas with no problem. Did they put out the power of this gens consoles? I think not.

Why hide the console anyway? It's pretty.

I have heard so many people saying they have their original 360 and have had no problem. None of my friends have had any issues and I have many, many friends from college that have 360. SO, from what I see it's probably kids that "play their console to death" by treating it like ****.

-Rich L.
 
Electronics are getting hotter and hotter. Especially Gaming machines (PC, unless you have a lot of fans or water cooling). The consoles only get cooler when they release the better chips as they did with the new 360's. It went from like 95 nm to 65 nm and then to 45 nm or something. We could let our N64's, PS2s, and Dreamcasts sit in enclosed areas with no problem. Did they put out the power of this gens consoles? I think not.

Why hide the console anyway? It's pretty.

I have heard so many people saying they have their original 360 and have had no problem. None of my friends have had any issues and I have many, many friends from college that have 360. SO, from what I see it's probably kids that "play their console to death" by treating it like ****.

-Rich L.

Other consoles of this gen have either provided ample cooling solutions that aren't obnoxiously loud, or created a more power efficient chip, that still provides way better performance than its predecessor. The 360 has proven itself as a rushed to market product. The first generation had manufacturing flaws, each predecessor has only slightly improved on the last. 3 generations in and the 360 still has a higher than 15% fail rate -- wow.

Pretty is your opinion. Aesthetically the 360 is just as ugly as the rest IMO. Its massive power brick does give it that extra fugliness though. The last console I thought looked nice was the N64. Yep, my opinion. ;)

Your friends are LUCKY. :) Or they're just moderate gamers. I'm not so lucky, 4 good friends, 3 dead 360s. I know others with 360s, but they're clients and friends of friends, so I haven't kept up on their console death.

And it's called playing Madden daily. The 360 died on its own accord. Have you ever heard of parental discipline, it prevents kids from being nightmares. My friend's practice this, your friends do not? :eek:

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bluray is ok - but i can't really tell between HDDVD or bluray.

Well... that's because they are both same-gen formats. The real comparison is DVD vs Bluray, that's a big difference. Also HDDVD is gone forever as we all know, why even talk about it!
 
I'll go out on a limb and say a lot of the overheating ---> Red Ring is from ill informed people with their xbox in a entertainment center. Or they live in Arizona and their house is warm.

That's not entirely true, at least when the system was first released; there was a chip defect that plagued a number of machines, resulting in the RRD... for whatever reason, M$ just extended the warranty instead of fixing the defect. Although, as I understand it, it is slightly better now (but still has a relatively high failure rate compared to the other consoles), because they finally fixed some of the faulty hardware.
 
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