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Perian, a free open-source plug-in that enables QuickTime support for a wide variety of video formats, has been updated with additional video format compatibility and fixes. Version 1.2.2 of Perian was released yesterday and is available from the download page at Perian.org.

This week's update added compatibility with WebM/VP8, FFv1 lossless video formats, and compressed MKV files, as well as bug fixes involving Matroska file importing and reading. The full list of changes in version 1.2.2 can be found in the version history section on this page.

Notably, the 1.2.2 version notes indicate that older versions of Mac OS X will no longer be supported in future versions of Perian:
The next planned version will remove support for PowerPC and Mac OS X versions prior to 10.6. Maintenance updates may be provided if necessary.
Perian 1.2.2 requires Mac OS 10.4.7 or higher.

Article Link: 'Perian' QuickTime Component for Mac Updated
 

ikir

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Perian is a must, awesome piece of software! I've donated in the past but i will do again in the future!!!
 

Lotso

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Ooooo MKV
 

blevins321

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Notably, the 1.2.2 version notes indicate that older versions of Mac OS X will no longer be supported in future versions of Perian:Perian 1.2.2 requires Mac OS 10.4.7 or higher.

+1 :) If more software developing groups followed this policy we'd see a lot more innovation because less time will be spent ensuring older device compatibility. People shouldn't become so ingrained in their software versions that they refuse to update semi-regularly.
 

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So I can watch my anime collection without problems now? Let's hope so!
 

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Fraaaa

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Talking of Perian - I installed this a while ago, when flash 10.1 came out, along click-to-flash and another plug in which I don't remember the name that was 'converting' videos to html5.

Before 10.1 I never had problem with Flash (on my MacBook) since 2008 I never even actually updated it - as far as I remember. Sure the fan was spinning like crazy but overall flash was working (I only use flash for videos).

Anyway when 10.1 came out I updated the software but also installed those plug ins and when I was playing video I got some problems such as audio bit crushing and white noise. Later I was 'excited' with 10.2 and the performance BS that Adobe was promoting, then I got even more problems as sometimes the video get jittering for seconds but the audio plays fine.

I blame it on Flash as I knew the issues everyone was talking about on MacRumors; however I also disabled Perian and deleted the other plug in. I still have click-to-flash but I had problem occasionally with that too - but related to Flash of course.


Now - can anyone tell me if you had same problem as I have? Moreover, do you suggest to but Perian back on?
 

Mr. Retrofire

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Hopefully that means Perian no longer breaks the AC3 encoder in Compressor :)

How should this work? Perian is responsible for the input, not for the output in QuickTime-compatible applications, AFAIK.

And if i understand the Perian release notes right, then "Compressor" produces the wrong channel layout, which results then in invalid .mp4 files. Not?
 

Nermal

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How should this work? Perian is responsible for the input, not for the output in QuickTime-compatible applications, AFAIK.

*shrug* ... it fails to create AC3 with Perian installed, and succeeds with it removed.

I haven't had a chance to try the new version yet. It's possible that Compressor does some "playback" or verification and that Perian gets in the way at that point, but I'm not sure; I don't know how it all works internally.
 

MagnusVonMagnum

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+1 :) If more software developing groups followed this policy we'd see a lot more innovation because less time will be spent ensuring older device compatibility. People shouldn't become so ingrained in their software versions that they refuse to update semi-regularly.

-100 :mad:

Heck on the makers of Perian. Just another developer dumping support for true Mac fans who existed in a time before Steve caved to the PC World CPUs after spending nearly a decade touting how great PPC was and how crappy x86 was. It seems developers cannot wait to dump support for older OS versions regardless while Windows machines from 1999 can still run nearly all new software within their CPU capabilities speed-wise (i.e. XP is still supported by nearly all developers a decade later while Mac developers dump support for an OS version that is barely two years old...PATHETIC). The Mac shelf life continues to shrink.... Soon you will need to buy a new computer every year or be left behind by Apple and developers alike while your hardware can run Windows for the next decade. :(

There WAS a time when Macs usefulness outlasted PCs by some margin. Now it's just the opposite. Macs have obsolescence built into them on purpose and PCs last for ages and yet the price ratios have NOT reversed. You still pay way more only now for less time. No wonder Apple is making money hand over fist.... What's the point of a better made computer if Apple just pulls the plug on them? It's not just PPC. Intel Core Duo is dumped in Lion as well. I guess owners of those Intel Macs can install Windows 7 instead.... :rolleyes:

Remember when they said that a MBP ran Windows Vista better than a PC? Well now they can say Windows 7 runs better on Macs than OSX! ;)
 

blow45

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mkv don't work for me via quicktime, am I doing something wrong?

btw thanks to the perian team for the good work, everyone should have this on their mac.
 

Madd the Sane

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It takes effort to make sure that you software works with previous versions, such as having a machine that can boot said previous version. Most small-time developers don't have the time to work with this. Also, Xcode 3.2.6 and 4.0 have dropped support for PowerPC, so building that is that much harder. Xcode 4 (much to my surprise) doesn't include any other SDK but 10.6 and iOS.

In my personal opinion, all Intel Macs should have 10.6 installed.
 

TheTick

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-100 :mad:

It seems developers cannot wait to dump support for older OS versions regardless while Windows machines from 1999 can still run nearly all new software within their CPU capabilities speed-wise (i.e. XP is still supported by nearly all developers a decade later while Mac developers dump support for an OS version that is barely two years old...PATHETIC).


In all fairness, if you can find a developer who wants to work on Perian on PPC, and can work with our very small team, then I'd be open to changing our stance.

With 2 very part time developers who actually have real jobs and real lives outside of this, and myself as project manager who has a real job and a real life, I really just don't see the point. 1.2.2 and 1.2.1 will still work in 2 years if they still work today. We're just not going to continue supporting it in 1.3 (or whatever version number I end up being happy with).

Please bear in mind that we have 3 real problems to address here in order for any sort of ppc support to return:

1) Nobody who actually works on perian likes working on this old stuff.

2) A lack of time resources. Did you know that we could have released in November if it hadn't been for supporting 10.5 and ppc? Not even 10.4, but 10.5.

3) A userbase which for the most part moves with updates. Over 80% of our userbase that hits the website is on 10.6. We focus on the 80/20 rule.


Let me explain this a bit further, and how we came to this decision. Essentially 2 and 3 are tied together. We spent a large amount of time on support for something which didn't apply to well over 80% of our user base. That's huge for any kind of software. For an open source project with a very small developer pool, it can cause the project to actually die off. No more perian < perian which is enjoyable to work on.

I can entirely understand your point. I have an old g4 800 mhz imac, I had a nice g4 ibook, a g3 700 ibook, and I had even older machines I won't list. The point is that we have to make the best choices for us currently, and for our users. I do respect older versions of os x and hardware, but not at the cost of what we're doing now.

I post this not looking for a response, but as an explanation. Concisely put, we have almost no motivation to continue working on 10.5 or ppc.

Chris Forsythe
Perian Project Manager
 
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