Recently my work computer had to be reformatted. So you think having a clean system=clean files. Guess wrong, before my computer got formated I had alot of problems with permissions. I was unable to use Mac OSX programs inclusing Utilities to fix permission. Symptoms was the program will hang when i open it causing the computer fans to start up real fast and loud. Well after talking to people I was recommended Cocktail. Having cocktail was great since it fixed the problem of permissions and 40% of programs where working. Now another problem came, when I reboot the computer the problem started again. So what I did was program Cocktail to run at end of business day and auto shut down the computer so the following day my apple is running smoothly. I solved the problem from that. But now that my computer has been cleaned out. I want to know how is this problem happening. I have Mac OS X 10.3 with most recent updates. I just want to inform myself why this is happening. I fixed the problem the best I can by running cocktail daily. Thank You
Cocktail uses the same basic facility to repair permissions as Disk Utility. I think you need to detail what exactly you're attempting to do and what is happening. Are you trying to use Disk Utility to repair permissions on your boot drive? And what do the logs (/Applications/Utilities/Console.app to view) say when you try to do this? How was your OS reinstalled? Was it a clean reinstall of the OS, or was it cloned onto a reformatted disk (therefore probably reinheriting the problem from the original install)?
Programs I have most problems when opening them the programs just hangs and the fans start acting up. I have to force quit. Programs I can recall Safari Disk Utilities I Movie and I photo I did a clean install, and in the installation of the OS I did the erase with Zeros and 7 times rewrite to make a complete and absolute clean install. I tried Console thing and now everything is working fine, which is very wierd. Now I got something to look into. Iam going to test this console out see if other information may appear. (this part I cant address so I will need to work on this or test it out when i know the programs I listed are not functioning)
Ok I tried doing the Permissions when my programs where hanging and not loading. Then i open console and that program freezes up on me. Then i get the loud fan noise which happens with all the programs I try to open. Anyone know what may be. I hope my company buys the new Mac OS X I think the one I have is prob bad system disk. The Dvd Player doesnt even work or the DVD Rom doesnt work but I can burn and read fine. Thank You
last 2 things to try and be sure: Log in as another user (create one if need be) and test those apps. Do they exhibit the same problems? You're not using any UI "enhancements" like haxies from Unsanity or anything that uses APE or shapeshifter, correct?
Tried another log In account and everything seemed to work fine. And no i dont yes those types of programs since this is my work computer. Thanks for the input
Well, though I implied it when I asked if the install was a clone, I guess I never specifically stated it, but... Is your user data, in the login that is causing trouble, the same user data that you were using earlier when you were having troubles? As in, was the ~/Library/ copied back to your current (troubled) user? Or is this (currently troubled) user completely fresh & clean, no files from the previous problematic user, and just magically started having troubles?
Yup second one, i thought fresh install would do the thing, but I have done so many fresh installs thinking it would resolve the problem but I am always stuck with the permissions problems, the only way i was able to fix this problem was by running cocktail end of work day so by tomorrow the computer is running smoothly. Nothing what so ever is being tranferred since I have an external Hard drive with my designs, but they are all Adobe/images files. Thats about it. And my user account is the same as before meaning the log in name and pass but I never saved the User information to the clean system. Thank you for the help
Well, what you describe is definitely NOT normal operating procedure for Mac OS X. Is this Mac part of Open Directory or Active Directory? e.g., Does it authenticate your username/password against a non-local source?
well what I understood was that if my apple connects to a network, which is does but its a PC only network and I got in bec my network port wasnt blocking Apple. Was that what you where asking? But no one can access my Apple since everyone has PC and highly protected with firewalls and stuff IT people here really make sure people dont do bad things while at work Was that what you wanted to know?
OR you might want to upgrade to tiger and do an archive and install, it installs fresh new system but keeps all your files.
No. I wanted to know if your work computer was authenticating against an outside source or if your account was completely local. Networks don't make a difference here. At this point all I can suggest is that there's an hardware issue. I'd suggest that you try and download and run memtest to test your RAM. http://www.memtestosx.org/
Well my company is basically getting me well I hope a new Apple mac Pro which is in spring since I want the new operating system. Ill try the program and its CHEAP too!!! just need to remember my paypal account. Thanks for information though Ill see what will happen. So far we got two forms of ram Official Apple ram, and Third party ram. In case you are wonderingl Thanks
Heres a crash report on my Adobe Illustrator result from my problems with permissions PHP: Date/Time: 2006-11-17 15:38:49 -0800 OS Version: 10.3.9 (Build 7W98) Report Version: 2 Command: Illustrator CS Path: /Applications/Adobe Illustrator CS/Illustrator CS.app/Contents/MacOSClassic/Illustrator CS Version: 11.0 (11.0) PID: 488 Thread: 0 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x086eb51e Thread 0 Crashed: 0 ATS 0x96b83258 _eFOCountNames + 0x30 1 ATS 0x96ba0ea4 FOCountNames + 0x30 2 com.apple.QD 0x9610bbb0 ATSUCountFontNames + 0x34 3 CoolTypeCarbonLib 0x005b9ed4 0x4a2000 + 0x117ed4 4 CoolTypeCarbonLib 0x005b9e68 0x4a2000 + 0x117e68 5 CoolTypeCarbonLib 0x005ba5cc 0x4a2000 + 0x1185cc 6 CoolTypeCarbonLib 0x0057fc04 0x4a2000 + 0xddc04 7 CoolTypeCarbonLib 0x00580860 0x4a2000 + 0xde860 8 CoolTypeCarbonLib 0x005e60ec 0x4a2000 + 0x1440ec 9 CoolTypeCarbonLib 0x00539e74 0x4a2000 + 0x97e74 10 CoolTypeCarbonLib 0x004f7938 0x4a2000 + 0x55938 11 CoolTypeCarbonLib 0x005a9c60 0x4a2000 + 0x107c60 12 Illustrator 0x028e6b6c SetUpCoolType__11FontSessionFv + 0x8c 13 Illustrator 0x028e69bc Initialize__11FontSessionFv + 0x3c 14 Illustrator 0x028e38d0 InitializeFontGlue__11CAIFontGlueFv + 0x100 15 Illustrator 0x028e3190 Update__11CAIFontGlueFRC11CAINotifier + 0xe0 16 Illustrator 0x0203f938 Dispatch__15CAINotificationCFR11CAIObserverR14CAIAspectEntry + 0x38 17 Illustrator 0x02036bb8 NotifyObserver__52CAIAspectType<15CAINotification,17CAIAspectObserver>FPvRQ213CAIAspectBase12ObserverDataPCv + 0x48 18 Illustrator 0x0203786c Notify__17MultiObserverImplFR13CAIAspectBasePCvUs + 0x6c 19 Illustrator 0x02037320 Notify__13CAIAspectBaseFPCv + 0x90 20 Illustrator 0x02037210 Notify__52CAIAspectType<15CAINotification,17CAIAspectObserver>FRC15CAINotification + 0x10 21 Illustrator 0x029049ac PluginsInit__9PluginMgrFb + 0x3ac 22 Illustrator 0x02900bb0 Update__9PluginMgrFRC11CAINotifier + 0x260 23 Illustrator 0x0203f938 Dispatch__15CAINotificationCFR11CAIObserverR14CAIAspectEntry + 0x38 24 Illustrator 0x02036bb8 NotifyObserver__52CAIAspectType<15CAINotification,17CAIAspectObserver>FPvRQ213CAIAspectBase12ObserverDataPCv + 0x48 25 Illustrator 0x0203786c Notify__17MultiObserverImplFR13CAIAspectBasePCvUs + 0x6c 26 Illustrator 0x02037320 Notify__13CAIAspectBaseFPCv + 0x90 27 Illustrator 0x02037210 Notify__52CAIAspectType<15CAINotification,17CAIAspectObserver>FRC15CAINotification + 0x10 28 Illustrator 0x02aac764 Update__11CAIMenuListFRC11CAINotifier + 0xf4 29 Illustrator 0x0203f938 Dispatch__15CAINotificationCFR11CAIObserverR14CAIAspectEntry + 0x38 30 Illustrator 0x02036bb8 NotifyObserver__52CAIAspectType<15CAINotification,17CAIAspectObserver>FPvRQ213CAIAspectBase12ObserverDataPCv + 0x48 31 Illustrator 0x0203786c Notify__17MultiObserverImplFR13CAIAspectBasePCvUs + 0x6c 32 Illustrator 0x02037320 Notify__13CAIAspectBaseFPCv + 0x90 33 Illustrator 0x02037210 Notify__52CAIAspectType<15CAINotification,17CAIAspectObserver>FRC15CAINotification + 0x10 34 Illustrator 0x0203fc40 RunApp__14CAIApplicationFv + 0x60 35 Illustrator 0x02030eec main + 0x4c Thread 1: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90018e78 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 0x8 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000ea14 _pthread_cond_wait + 0x268 2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x902da570 TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 0xb0 3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x902ee4f0 TimerThread + 0x3c 4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024990 _pthread_body + 0x28 Thread 2: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90017238 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 0x8 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000ea1c _pthread_cond_wait + 0x270 2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9034515c MPWaitOnSemaphore + 0xb8 3 ACECarbonLib 0x00449dd4 0x405000 + 0x44dd4 4 ACECarbonLib 0x0044a010 0x405000 + 0x45010 5 ACECarbonLib 0x00449a28 0x405000 + 0x44a28 6 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90345c48 _MP_CFMTaskProc + 0x20 7 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x902f6b90 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 0x4c 8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024990 _pthread_body + 0x28 Thread 3: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90017238 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 0x8 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000ea1c _pthread_cond_wait + 0x270 2 ColorSync 0x913e56b8 _Z20pthreadSemaphoreWaitP18t_pthreadSemaphore + 0x38 3 ColorSync 0x913e49cc _Z11CMMConvTaskPv + 0x28 4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024990 _pthread_body + 0x28 PPC Thread State: srr0: 0x96b83258 srr1: 0x0000d030 vrsave: 0x00000000 cr: 0x48004482 xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x96b8324c ctr: 0x902b1250 r0: 0x96b8324c r1: 0xbfffe6e0 r2: 0x086eb51c r3: 0x086eb51c r4: 0xa6b51fd4 r5: 0x00000001 r6: 0x00000001 r7: 0x000001a2 r8: 0xa6b51ff0 r9: 0x00000001 r10: 0x96b5f8d0 r11: 0x44004424 r12: 0x902b1250 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000000 r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000000 r20: 0xbffffe14 r21: 0x06fc2d00 r22: 0x06fc8384 r23: 0x00000000 r24: 0x00000000 r25: 0x03c24b20 r26: 0x00000000 r27: 0x0867ddd4 r28: 0xa6b50e7c r29: 0x06c2e34c r30: 0x00000000 r31: 0x96ba0e7c Binary Images Description: 0x1000 - 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